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Old 29th Sep 2023, 15:31
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Any insider news of when is the next few 737 courses starting?
Any information will be much appreciated!
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Old 29th Sep 2023, 15:35
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Any insider news of when is the next few 737 courses starting?
any information will be much appreciated!
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Old 2nd Oct 2023, 11:36
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One course a month every month until the end of the year. Not sure what 2024 looks like.
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Old 2nd Oct 2023, 11:41
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Originally Posted by JonBoi
Any insider news of when is the next few 737 courses starting?
Any information will be much appreciated!
Been on hold for over two months still no update
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Old 2nd Oct 2023, 21:35
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I was told they have been put on hold, along with interview sessions, until early next year. No more courses after October. Know of others whom have been fed the same info.
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Old 2nd Oct 2023, 22:32
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Originally Posted by cloudsurfng
why miss any of that stuff. Haven’t missed anniversary, wife or kids bday in 16 years. Take a PRA. F&$k em. It’s a job, not a life. The only thing that matters about it is that the pay appears each fortnight. Remove the attachment and life will be much better. You dont owe them anything. As COVID showed, they’ll drop you in a heartbeat without batting an eyelid.
SPOT ON MATE !!!!!!!
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 03:51
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VA is becoming Australia’s Ryan Air (from a flight crew perspective). People are turning up to get some quick jet time or to get current then move onto a place that treats them with respect and pays them an appropriate wage. Pretty sad state of affairs for what is the second biggest airline in the country.

It’s even sadder hearing young pilots who have never flow a jet before saying that VA isn’t on their radar to apply for as there is no career progression and they pay the lowest. It’s a pretty big fall from once being the employer of choice
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 05:03
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Originally Posted by Red69
VA is becoming Australia’s Ryan Air (from a flight crew perspective). People are turning up to get some quick jet time or to get current then move onto a place that treats them with respect and pays them an appropriate wage. Pretty sad state of affairs for what is the second biggest airline in the country.

It’s even sadder hearing young pilots who have never flow a jet before saying that VA isn’t on their radar to apply for as there is no career progression and they pay the lowest. It’s a pretty big fall from once being the employer of choice
Where are they going exactly? Jetstar is just a lateral move. Rex/Bonza isn't even on the same playing field and QF only take a small number of people...I mean there is the US but 99% of them are going to be stuck going to a cargo operator and living a pretty unpleasant lifestyle or a regional and all the while stuck on temporary visas with no ability to progress. Point is, surely Virgin isn't having that much trouble recruiting and retaining. Theres pretty much nowhere else to go as far as I can see.
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 05:18
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Originally Posted by LostWanderer
Where are they going exactly? Jetstar is just a lateral move. Rex/Bonza isn't even on the same playing field and QF only take a small number of people...I mean there is the US but 99% of them are going to be stuck going to a cargo operator and living a pretty unpleasant lifestyle or a regional and all the while stuck on temporary visas with no ability to progress. Point is, surely Virgin isn't having that much trouble recruiting and retaining. Theres pretty much nowhere else to go as far as I can see.
My thoughts too
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 06:23
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Originally Posted by Tbot
My thoughts too
And now there are multiple former CX pilots (including captains) who are joining.

Virgin is never going to offer the same career opportunities as Qantas, but you’d be pretty naïve to not realise that.

The number of pilots leaving has stabilised - maybe there will be an uptick now that QF are offering more course dates and further interviews. But certainly very small numbers from the left seat at Virgin are leaving.

Despite all the huff and puff of people leaving to go elsewhere - it’s simply not happening. Bonza have just opened a Gold Coast base - I’d almost guarantee none of the commuters from Virgin will leave to go there.

If any of the operators are being used to get current it would be Rex or Bonza. In fact Bonza’s biggest issue with their expansion moving forward is going to be the attraction and retention of flight crew.
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 10:00
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Originally Posted by LostWanderer
Where are they going exactly? Jetstar is just a lateral move. Rex/Bonza isn't even on the same playing field and QF only take a small number of people...I mean there is the US but 99% of them are going to be stuck going to a cargo operator and living a pretty unpleasant lifestyle or a regional and all the while stuck on temporary visas with no ability to progress. Point is, surely Virgin isn't having that much trouble recruiting and retaining. Theres pretty much nowhere else to go as far as I can see.
19 days off in October and even in Year 2, far out earning a Senior VA FO. Not exactly an “unpleasant lifestyle”.
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 11:40
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A mate reckons they are only looking at a max of 30-40 commands for the next 12 months - during a crazy growth period no less. No idea how many are waiting for a command, but at that rate, and no widebodies in sight, it's most likely going to be a looong time until a new joiner's number comes up.
I reckon you'd get a command sooner at every other airline in Aus.
Given the lack of progression or options there, I hope the boys and girls there are in line for a decent pay rise in the next EBA!
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 12:27
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A mate reckons they are only looking at a max of 30-40 commands for the next 12 months - during a crazy growth period no less.
They actually said 27 commands for the next 12 months. All this while demand has supposedly peaked. There is no progression (or lifestyle) at VA, especially for new joiners. Hence the reference to it becoming like Ryan Air as a jet time, hour building airline. At least there is progression there.

There are plenty of FO’s, junior and senior who are on the hold file for other airlines. Many are looking elsewhere to regain some form of career progression and/or satisfaction. The number leaving will be increasing imo
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Old 26th Oct 2023, 00:31
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Any word on the company's response to the new EBA proposal?
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Old 26th Oct 2023, 00:50
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Originally Posted by plotplot
Any word on the company's response to the new EBA proposal?
Eye watering
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Old 26th Oct 2023, 00:58
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Originally Posted by anonfly
Eye watering
whats the current offer?
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Old 26th Oct 2023, 01:54
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Originally Posted by anonfly
Eye watering
care to elaborate?
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Old 26th Oct 2023, 02:17
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care to elaborate?
That was the CPs response to proposed salary.
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Old 20th Nov 2023, 10:28
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Anyone heard when the 2024 courses will be? Also any update on the new EBA? Heard anything from 155-190 for an FO, latter sounds very far fetched.
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Old 20th Nov 2023, 18:06
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Kicking back off in Feb, monthly after that.
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