Virgin Australia recruitment
Makes you wonder what their motives were in calling for applications recently? Only to tell a whole bunch of people that they are no longer competitive!
My understanding is that no proposed EBA has yet been seen by the wider ATR pilot group, let alone voted on. Any talk about big pay rises helping with retention seems pretty ambitious and speculative at this point.
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Can anyone please provide any info about external pilot recruitment numbers that the company need once the fleet & network review is completed? Also is a date set as to when the company will go public with its fleet & network review? What I have been told is that VANZ is short on numbers and they can't fully man a roster. All they are waiting for is the nod from management to run more endorsement courses. Can anyone shed any light on if the Aus operation is short on drivers? I'm still waiting for that phone call from HR about a start date and I bet lots of others are in the same boat as me.
Can anyone please provide any info about external pilot recruitment numbers that the company need once the fleet & network review is completed? Also is a date set as to when the company will go public with its fleet & network review? What I have been told is that VANZ is short on numbers and they can't fully man a roster. All they are waiting for is the nod from management to run more endorsement courses. Can anyone shed any light on if the Aus operation is short on drivers? I'm still waiting for that phone call from HR about a start date and I bet lots of others are in the same boat as me.
12 x 777 SO positions
20 x Aus 737 FO positions
6 x NZ 737 FO positions
4 x ATR Captains positions
6 x ATR FO positions
Handful of WB Captain and FO positions
Those numbers typically don’t take into account further attrition during the year (say if QF started awarding start dates again).
And those numbers also typically don’t take into account backfilled positions (for example if the Company awards a 330 command to a 737 captain, they will then as an example replace that 737 captain with a 737 FO, who may be replaced by a 777 SO who may need to be replaced by someone on the hold file).
That list doesn’t cover TT or VARA West Coast positions.
And of course that list could change pending outcome of network review (which as a guess I would think would be pulling capacity out of NZ)!
Fingers crossed you don’t wait too long on the hold file.
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Colonel_Klink;
Thank you Colonel_Klink for theses numbers (this is very positive) hopefully HR will start calling people from the hold file soon. Can you tell me please are these positions open to internal bidding before they are open to external applications?
Thank you Colonel_Klink for theses numbers (this is very positive) hopefully HR will start calling people from the hold file soon. Can you tell me please are these positions open to internal bidding before they are open to external applications?
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Can you tell me please are these positions open to internal bidding before they are open to external applications?
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Colonel_Klink;
Thank you Colonel_Klink for theses numbers (this is very positive) hopefully HR will start calling people from the hold file soon. Can you tell me please are these positions open to internal bidding before they are open to external applications?
Thank you Colonel_Klink for theses numbers (this is very positive) hopefully HR will start calling people from the hold file soon. Can you tell me please are these positions open to internal bidding before they are open to external applications?
Very recently about 6 x SOs transferred to TT 737. So entry positions into the Company are most likely ATR FO, 777 SO and NZ 737 FO. As a previous poster stated - get in and get your position on the list ASAP and then worry about next step once you’re in the Company. I know of people who knocked back 77 SO positions back in the day thinking they were too good for the role, and then they subsequently joined the company 2 years later....except they now have all of VARA (West Coast and ATR) above them on the list - that’s about another 200 spots less senior.
Whilst VA has their issues - they really ought to be commended for allowing all pilots to be able to access all positions within the Group (as the knock on affect of subsequential positions and the training requirements this puts on the Company are huge) . A pilot joining now could have quite the varied career at VA...
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Whilst VA has their issues - they really ought to be commended for allowing all pilots to be able to access all positions within the Group (as the knock on affect of subsequential positions and the training requirements this puts on the Company are huge) . A pilot joining now could have quite the varied career at VA...
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Wise advice guys on taking what is offered and getting your name on that seniority list. At my current employer seniority is everything, its time to command, getting a base you want, bidding good trips, the difference between spending Christmas with your family at home or being in some hotel skype calling them, over an entire career it can be the difference between hundreds of thousands of dollars in wages. Having the same seniority number across the entire group at Virgin is a good deal.
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Would be keen to hear if there are GA guys and girls going out and spending 6k on mcc course or if this is just a culling mechanism as they are receiving enough applications from folk already having multi crew time.
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Hi plotplot, I came from GA, I was also grandfathered into the exemption for being on turboprops before the part 61 deadline and I waited for 6 months after the interview thinking Virgin would either accept that, tell me they wanted it or just supply the MCC. Heard nothing in the 6 months so I bit the bullet. Since joining I've read their manuals and although they reserve the right to make their own decisions etc... And despite the MCC not being a minimum mandatory item on the recruitment pages, it completely is. The HR guys are looking for certain criteria and are ticking boxes before it gets to anyone who will take the time to see whether or not a grandfather clause applies to you. It's easier to just pay for the course or you won't get acknowledged as being qualified.
Hi plotplot, I came from GA, I was also grandfathered into the exemption for being on turboprops before the part 61 deadline and I waited for 6 months after the interview thinking Virgin would either accept that, tell me they wanted it or just supply the MCC. Heard nothing in the 6 months so I bit the bullet. Since joining I've read their manuals and although they reserve the right to make their own decisions etc... And despite the MCC not being a minimum mandatory item on the recruitment pages, it completely is. The HR guys are looking for certain criteria and are ticking boxes before it gets to anyone who will take the time to see whether or not a grandfather clause applies to you. It's easier to just pay for the course or you won't get acknowledged as being qualified.
HR have determined that you are not competitive unless you have multi crew time. However one can buy a qualification for around $6K.
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