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Old 26th Feb 2018, 06:07
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Did I miss something in the past or is this a new requirement that internal applicants must have completed 24 months service with their current QF group employer?
Just noticed it at the bottom of the minimum criteria page.
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Old 26th Feb 2018, 06:16
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And no more Year 12?
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Old 26th Feb 2018, 10:33
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Originally Posted by wishiwasupthere View Post
And no more Year 12?
In the past, QF displayed on their pilot career website, that an applicant needed to show passes in Maths, English and Physics subjects, which were equivalent to year 12 standard,
or have completed some bridging course, which would be acceptable to them.

I recall, Rex also requesting the same item in the past, in order for an applicant to meet their minimum educational standards, but that item has been removed, Virgin have done the same,
it appears nobody is asking for year 12 HSC results, as a requirement, to enable an application form to be submitted by an applicant.

If a person needs to do these courses, they're available via distance learning, just navigate the web, it will take about a year to complete each subject.

I don't think anybody has got into QF or it's group of airlines, without demonstrating they have reasonable marks in the HSC or posses other qualifications, as a person won't be competitive enough.

The latest Virgin flight crew ad. on the afap website, best summarised the process and outcome once a person submits their application and the outcome of their journey through the selection process.
The ad. advised the following, which would be the same or a similar response from QF , in relation to an applicant's application.

How do I know the status of my application?
We will acknowledge the initial receipt of your application.
We plan to communicate advice of the status of your application within two months initially, reducing to one month after we deal with the large numbers received after the invitation for applications initially open. The advice will indicate that:
  • you have been progressed to the next stage,
  • you are not competitive to be progressed at this time but will remain active, or
  • your application will not be progressed further.
At the end of the day, it's not the end of the world if a person doesn't get into QF, Virgin, Jetstar, other airlines also recruit AU pilot holders, such as FlyDubai, CX, Vietnam's various airlines.
It depends what lifestyle a person is prepared to accept and where they want to live.

Not everybody will get into QF and flying isn't the only thing in life.

Cheers.
 
Old 27th Feb 2018, 01:46
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As much as I disagree with the current Qantas HR process if it prevents me from one day sitting next to guys like CLX or abaderrr than I would tick that up to a win
Ohh FFS, really? Are you that stuck up that you can’t detect even the slightest bit of sarcasm?

Maybe I should be thankful that it attracts people like you, and that people like myself can fly with normal people who have a sense of humour and can have a joke during the flight.

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Old 27th Feb 2018, 02:03
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Seagull, I personally know someone who was employed into the QF group within the past 18 months that had not completed YR12.
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Old 27th Feb 2018, 02:11
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Originally Posted by Jetdream View Post
Did I miss something in the past or is this a new requirement that internal applicants must have completed 24 months service with their current QF group employer?
Just noticed it at the bottom of the minimum criteria page.
That is new, I know of some JQ guys who only spent 6 months or so there before starting at QF. Probably JQ or Qlink trying to stem the flow of pilots going to mainline.
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Old 1st Mar 2018, 10:26
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I am a Y11 student at Victoria and I am pretty thrilled after hearing this news! But...like what everyone has discussed: Is it really FEASIBLE? It's like building a new private school-- a high amount of space, instructors and HR members are required. How could, and where Qantas get so many staffs at once despite instructors storage?
Good luck Qantas. And hope, their plan would really work.
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Old 1st Mar 2018, 15:01
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Qantas - contract type?

I am thinking about applying to Qantas... Can't find much info online.
Wondering if they have any short-term contract, or permanent only.
Also, are they many expats? Maybe 30%?
How many pilots in total? How many block hours are expected each year?
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Old 1st Mar 2018, 17:36
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Why do QF /Jetstar etc. and other Asian carriers, employs S/Os as "cruise only pilots"?
Surely it is safer to have three fully trained co-pilots on the flight deck sharing the landings, and getting experience.
BA for example only operate with fully type rated co-pilots, necessary of course as many shorter 777/787/744/A380 LH routes operate with a two crew flight deck.
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Old 1st Mar 2018, 21:18
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A 787/ A380/ 744 F/O is likely to average about three PF sectors a month. Very difficult to share those around with two other people.

Safer? Skill level would likely decrease further.

Certainly much more expensive.... and therein is a big reason why companies have S/Os.
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Old 1st Mar 2018, 21:43
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Originally Posted by timmy123 View Post
I am thinking about applying to Qantas... Can't find much info online.
Wondering if they have any short-term contract, or permanent only.
Also, are they many expats? Maybe 30%?
How many pilots in total? How many block hours are expected each year?
There’s a lot of info buried back in this thread.
No short term contracts. Permanent only.
Not many expats. Mostly Aussies from our rich multicultural history.
About 2500 pilots in mainline.
About 800 stick hours per annum.

I put a post up about S/O pay a bunch of pages back.
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Old 1st Mar 2018, 22:33
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Originally Posted by cessnapete View Post
Why do QF /Jetstar etc. and other Asian carriers, employs S/Os as "cruise only pilots"?
It’s the airline industry.

It doesn’t matter what the question is, the answer is always “money”.

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Old 1st Mar 2018, 22:36
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About 800 stick hours per annum.
…on the A330 (often more), 744 and A380. It's closer to 950 for most 737 pilots at the moment.
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Old 1st Mar 2018, 22:51
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About 800 stick hours per annum.
That'd be about 10 "stick hours" and 790 hours fat, dumb and happy watching the automation magic, isn't it?
TIC, friends, calm down...
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Old 1st Mar 2018, 23:18
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Is Qantas actually running courses at the moment? I’ve heard through the grapevine that the latest 787 was delayed due to the problems in crew training (we all know it has nothing to do with Network/Jetconnect), to allow them to get ahead of the curve and stop the need to spend huge amounts of money in Singapore.
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Old 2nd Mar 2018, 00:16
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I’ve heard through the grapevine that the latest 787 was delayed due to the problems in crew training
Didn't you get the memo? "We let one go" because of angst and bad Qi? If they can shut down an airline for red ties they can certainly cancel an order because the plebs had the temerity to hold meeting about recent developments that could delay even further what is the possibly the worlds slowest airline promotional system.
/s
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Old 2nd Mar 2018, 01:16
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Originally Posted by SandyPalms View Post
Is Qantas actually running courses at the moment?
Apparently, Qantas did have cadetship programs a few years back but its Subsidiary company Jetstar did have cadetship programs last year and it again opened the application.
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Old 2nd Mar 2018, 03:53
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Originally Posted by C441 View Post
…on the A330 (often more), 744 and A380. It's closer to 950 for most 737 pilots at the moment.
Yeaaaahh nah. My upcoming leave will prevent me from bouncing on my running 900, on the bus.
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Old 2nd Mar 2018, 05:52
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Originally Posted by Keg View Post
There’s a lot of info buried back in this thread.
No short term contracts. Permanent only.
Not many expats. Mostly Aussies from our rich multicultural history.
About 2500 pilots in mainline.
About 800 stick hours per annum.

I put a post up about S/O pay a bunch of pages back.
Got it!! Very helpful!!
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Old 2nd Mar 2018, 09:17
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If they can shut down an airline for red ties they can certainly cancel an order because the plebs had the temerity to hold meeting about recent developments that could delay even further what is the possibly the worlds slowest airline promotional system.
/s
Noted tongue in cheek...

With a SH command at BA another 'legacy' carrier running around 7 years, it is my understanding, were one want to stay within range of schools,family etc on the east coast, then a SH command at Qantas is circa 20 years...

Qantas' only card is 'living in Australia' something they have aggressively defended in years past, whilst simultaneous undermining everything a job at Qantas (including a career path) was about.

With EK now outsourcing to CAE, Qantas may soon realise that their home ground advantage is undermined by Asian carriers with decent commuting contracts.

Demographics also will undermine their fear driven adversarial IR model.

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