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Old 8th Feb 2019, 00:34
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Originally Posted by wombat watcher View Post
Do you want the job or not? It is for you to decide. If you want to be prissy about it, who would want to employ you? You are an potential employee that rings all thealarm bells about be a future drama queen.
Yep, it does look like we dodged a problem there.
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Old 8th Feb 2019, 00:56
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Soo many QF skygods here! Might seem surprising to some but there IS more to life than getting a ‘jet job’ at Qantas. Some people value lifestyle over being able to tell people they are a Qantas Pilot.....

What’s wrong with putting your hat in the ring then pulling it out when it is clear that the job offered won’t fit your lifestyle/family commitments?

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Old 8th Feb 2019, 03:51
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Originally Posted by Chadzat View Post
Soo many QF skygods here! Might seem surprising to some but there IS more to life than getting a ‘jet job’ at Qantas. Some people value lifestyle over being able to tell people they are a Qantas Pilot.....

What’s wrong with putting your hat in the ring then pulling it out when it is clear that the job offered won’t fit your lifestyle/family commitments?

You are so right, there is more to life.
Of course the thread name is “Qantas Recruitment “.
If you are not interested that is just fine, equally - if you are not interested then Qantas is better off without you!
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Old 8th Feb 2019, 05:25
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Originally Posted by Chadzat View Post
Soo many QF skygods here! Might seem surprising to some but there IS more to life than getting a ‘jet job’ at Qantas. Some people value lifestyle over being able to tell people they are a Qantas Pilot.....

What’s wrong with putting your hat in the ring then pulling it out when it is clear that the job offered won’t fit your lifestyle/family commitments?

Firstly, the person who has chosen another career path other than the QF group has neither posted here nor stuck her head up to warrant personal criticism. Another poster has relayed information.

Secondly, I believe, what has many on here tapping on the keyboard is the suspicion that her interpretation of what is best for her lifestyle and family is quite likely misguided and has been clouded by a short term ‘win’. As others have said, once you are in Mainline, no one forces you to a base change or promotion. There are flexible working arrangements available if warranted and numerous career options for that ‘next stage of life’.

It is hard to understand her decision based on the reality of ground zero at QF at the moment...(ps..I don’t know any personal circumstances in this case, nor am I saying a wrong decision has been made or saying what she should have done...just saying in my opinion, based on a strong sample size and bell distribution of brand new recruits (mostly around 30yrs or older) her supposed logic in coming to her decision is very questionable.)

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Old 8th Feb 2019, 11:22
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Originally Posted by Chadzat View Post
Soo many QF skygods here! Might seem surprising to some but there IS more to life than getting a ‘jet job’ at Qantas. Some people value lifestyle over being able to tell people they are a Qantas Pilot.....

What’s wrong with putting your hat in the ring then pulling it out when it is clear that the job offered won’t fit your lifestyle/family commitments?

You lost me at Skygod...
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Old 8th Feb 2019, 20:30
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Exactly. We all have choices and we interview companies we want to work for just as much as they interview us. If, for some reason what they are offering in a total package does not suit yourself or your family, then you CAN CHOOSE to not take the job if offered.

This is lady is not the only person who has rejected Qantas over the past few years. Qantas are in a position to dangle a carrot and it’s up to the general pilot demographic to decide if they want it or not. Many moons ago there were not many options however in today’s world there is plenty. She has also been flying a jet for the company and so moving onto the mothership is not going to be of benefit if each opportunity which comes up (seniority depicted) within requires a move to another city. She is completely aware that for many others this is fine, she herself does not want to commute and or move the family any more. She has moved for aviation 8 times already, so when do you stop? She was content with her current position and found she did not need the change to complete her career.

I completey understood and and respected this. There are a lot more considerations to be made as we get older and having the responsibility of children and a marriage can and is for some more important. Her dealings with the recruiters and the total process was fine it was simply the total package. She can stay where she lives and move seats when she is abled to do so all from the comfort of her home.

If you are young and driven by the desire to climb the seniority ladder for promotion then by all means it seems a fantastic job.
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Old 8th Feb 2019, 20:58
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TL, just like when you can’t tell who the annoying person in the room is, perhaps the same applies when you can’t work out who the Skygod(s) in the room are..
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Old 9th Feb 2019, 00:14
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Originally Posted by TimmyTee View Post
TL, just like when you can’t tell who the annoying person in the room is, perhaps the same applies when you can’t work out who the Skygod(s) in the room are..
Yeh, good one!

Anyway, back on topic - QF Recruitment. Let the next generation of Skygods fulfil their dreams
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Old 10th Feb 2019, 23:18
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Originally Posted by Transition Layer View Post

Anyway, back on topic - QF Recruitment. Let the next generation of Skygods fulfil their dreams
So as a mid-40’s bloke looking for one of those shiny jet jobs after 20 years of turboprops, have I missed the window to make the change. A cruizy SO gig sounds appealing right now but I do enjoy the left-hand seat, will I be nearing retirement before I see a LHS again...and 1-2 years just to get through the door!
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 09:31
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Originally Posted by Ducksbum View Post


So as a mid-40’s bloke looking for one of those shiny jet jobs after 20 years of turboprops, have I missed the window to make the change. A cruizy SO gig sounds appealing right now but I do enjoy the left-hand seat, will I be nearing retirement before I see a LHS again...and 1-2 years just to get through the door!
I believe the most of us have unfortunately missed the qf boat.

Applications open for 2 weeks each 18 months during a so called pilot shortage.

Looks like being in the group counts for more than experience, aptitude, personality etc.

I still try to remain positive and hope applications open again this year, keeping all options both in Aus and abroad open though.

Good luck to everyone.

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Old 11th Feb 2019, 10:11
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Looks like being in the group counts for more than experience, aptitude, personality etc.
How do you know what the experience, aptitude and personality of the internal applicants are? A candidate from the group is a known entity. An external applicant is not.

Although I’ll admit that the odd internal applicant has slipped through the net with a less than perfect track record.

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Old 11th Feb 2019, 10:32
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Originally Posted by Ducksbum View Post


So as a mid-40’s bloke looking for one of those shiny jet jobs after 20 years of turboprops, have I missed the window to make the change. A cruizy SO gig sounds appealing right now but I do enjoy the left-hand seat, will I be nearing retirement before I see a LHS again...and 1-2 years just to get through the door!
As someone thats flown both, it really isnt about the plane...that bit wears off quickly. If you are happy with your lifestyle, get holidays when you typically want, home most nights...theyre the big ticket items in my book.
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 10:37
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Originally Posted by Fonz121 View Post



How do you know what the experience, aptitude and personality of the internal applicants are? A candidate from the group is a known entity. An external applicant is not.

Because they’re my friends.

They’re great people, but even they’ll admit, they wouldn’t have gotten an interview unless they were in the group.

Would a skippers dash 8 pilot have the exact same chance as a qlink pilot at getting an interview?
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 13:26
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Originally Posted by Flyboy1987 View Post

Because they’re my friends.

They’re great people, but even they’ll admit, they wouldn’t have gotten an interview unless they were in the group.

Would a skippers dash 8 pilot have the exact same chance as a qlink pilot at getting an interview?
Gee's, I had my interview with Mineline and I only flew a single engine turbo prop. Compared to the other candidates on the day I was definitely at the bottom in terms of experience! BUT, I did something right to make it to the interview.

Although I didn't progress through to the next day.

There are so many damn variables in the whole process - even the initial 5 question interview, initial talent Q, group exercise, 1 on 2 interview with pilot and person from HR, the scenario they give you, validation, education, what colour g-string you wore ect ect ect.

They can be and will be picky with who they want.

I still take my hat off to everyone that get's through - some questionable people for sure, but whatever, good on 'em!
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 21:40
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Originally Posted by Flyboy1987 View Post
Would a skippers dash 8 pilot have the exact same chance as a qlink pilot at getting an interview?
Definitely not, the application form is a basic IQ test, the skipper's pilot would have a hard time writing their own name.

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Old 11th Feb 2019, 22:15
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Unfortunately the selection process is not bullet proof. I’ve seen some great, hard working, honest people get knocked back, while others who I would not let my dog fly with get through. Some get friends to do the initial TalentQ testing for them, some tweak some documents to meet minimum requirements.
HR think they are getting the best people for the job, but in some cases they are being played. Not saying all, but definitely some out there.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 00:14
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Originally Posted by startno1 View Post
Some get friends to do the initial TalentQ testing for them
Verification at the assessment centre would usually filter those honest people out.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 02:23
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Originally Posted by spondonicle View Post
Verification at the assessment centre would usually filter those honest people out.
Yes that is the idea I guess, but for some reason QF give people a second chance if their results on the assessment day (verification) don’t match up with the initial online tests.
This happened to the ones I know of and they got through on the second go. No idea why they give a second chance on this. Seems to defeat the purpose of the verification to me.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 03:57
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Originally Posted by startno1 View Post
...while others who I would not let my dog fly with get through.
Yep, like that selfie muppet in Perth...
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 03:58
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Yes that is the idea I guess, but for some reason QF give people a second chance if their results on the assessment day (verification) don’t match up with the initial online tests.
This happened to the ones I know of and they got through on the second go. No idea why they give a second chance on this. Seems to defeat the purpose of the verification to me.
I used the idea that if I sucked at the initial psychometric tests, all I have to do is suck for the verification tests... Seemed to work!
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