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Old 9th Oct 2021, 18:28
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Originally Posted by JoeTripodi
No.
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To follow on from this, there are many that have applied for a waiver, and almost none who have gotten it. The FAA does not care about your widebody command time, ocean crossings, moon landings or anything else. If you don't have 121 time (or very specific 135 time) from an FAA AOC carrier, don't bother asking.

The only guy I know who has that waiver, was more or less grandfathered it during the rule change, and still to this day does not have enough 121 SIC to qualify.
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Old 10th Oct 2021, 00:07
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"If you don't have 121 time (or very specific 135 time) from an FAA AOC carrier, don't bother asking"

This would of sufficed without all the other shit, it was a genuine question

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Old 10th Oct 2021, 00:20
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Time spent as pilot in command or second in command in foreign operations does not apply to the 1000 hr. SIC requirement of 14 CFR 121.436(a)(3).
That took about 30 seconds to find. That's probably why it wasn't answered with love hearts.
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Old 10th Oct 2021, 01:36
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That took about 30 seconds to find. That's probably why it wasn't answered with love hearts.
You're awesome, thanks
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Old 10th Oct 2021, 04:27
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Originally Posted by Taggert
"If you don't have 121 time (or very specific 135 time) from an FAA AOC carrier, don't bother asking"

This would of sufficed without all the other shit, it was a genuine question

Thanks.
Probably a fair enough response. I've just spoken to a lot of people about flying here. Some get a little upset when they find they can't walk into the left seat of a RJ, and perhaps view having to be in the right seat of said RJ as beneath them. Frankly though, with some of the experience these guys have, it probably is beneath them, and that's their choice.

That doesn't change the fact that if you want to be in the US right now on an E3, the fastest way is that RJ right seat. Or, be one of the few individuals with both the experience and connections to convince a company further up the food chain to take a chance on sponsoring you.

The point of my last post though, however blunt, was to illustrate that it doesn't matter how much experience an Aussie pilot has, there's no circumventing the fact you're going to the right seat if you want to fly part 121 here.
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Old 10th Oct 2021, 09:30
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Originally Posted by DropYourSocks
Probably a fair enough response. I've just spoken to a lot of people about flying here. Some get a little upset when they find they can't walk into the left seat of a RJ, and perhaps view having to be in the right seat of said RJ as beneath them. Frankly though, with some of the experience these guys have, it probably is beneath them, and that's their choice.

That doesn't change the fact that if you want to be in the US right now on an E3, the fastest way is that RJ right seat. Or, be one of the few individuals with both the experience and connections to convince a company further up the food chain to take a chance on sponsoring you.

The point of my last post though, however blunt, was to illustrate that it doesn't matter how much experience an Aussie pilot has, there's no circumventing the fact you're going to the right seat if you want to fly part 121 here.
Thanks for your reply.
I had noticed that some of the regionals flying RJ's are offering direct entry commands hence the question about whether 121 in Oz counts as 121 time in the US for that situation. Unfortunately not by the sounds, but thats fine, happy to sit in RHS as necessary.

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Old 11th Oct 2021, 16:05
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PSA is also taking E-3s. This is confirmed by PSA. So that's Commutair, GoJet and PSA all confirmed by internal employees within recruitment to be actively hiring Aussies on E-3s. Good luck guys
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Old 12th Oct 2021, 00:05
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Originally Posted by Jester64
PSA is also taking E-3s. This is confirmed by PSA. So that's Commutair, GoJet and PSA all confirmed by internal employees within recruitment to be actively hiring Aussies on E-3s. Good luck guys
Two weeks ago PSA wasn't taking E3s. Can you tell me where it says PSA is now recruiting using the E3 visa?

It's just that Commutair has an E3 section on their website and Gojet doesn't ask for a US passport or Green card. PSA has no indication they are taking E3s.
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Old 12th Oct 2021, 02:28
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Thanks for the info.
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Old 12th Oct 2021, 07:17
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Originally Posted by Climb150
Two weeks ago PSA wasn't taking E3s. Can you tell me where it says PSA is now recruiting using the E3 visa?

It's just that Commutair has an E3 section on their website and Gojet doesn't ask for a US passport or Green card. PSA has no indication they are taking E3s.
Historically and empirically, few regionals have advertised they recruit E3s. I don't know why.
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Old 13th Oct 2021, 07:13
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This was brought to my attention today.

https://www.envoyair.com/2021/09/21/...5k-in-bonuses/

Looks like things are definitely picking up over there.
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Old 13th Oct 2021, 13:22
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Originally Posted by chimbu warrior
This was brought to my attention today.

https://www.envoyair.com/2021/09/21/...5k-in-bonuses/

Looks like things are definitely picking up over there.
All that basically shows is how desperate the AA regionals are to put golden handcuffs on their flow pilots from leaving elsewhere before their flow date to AA.
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Old 14th Oct 2021, 05:11
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Old 14th Oct 2021, 14:09
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Originally Posted by havick
All that basically shows is how desperate the AA regionals are to put golden handcuffs on their flow pilots from leaving elsewhere before their flow date to AA.
Unfortunately these flow bonuses wonít be applicable to Aussie pilots on E-3s. Also I think currently only PSA is the only E-3 visa regional that is paying an sign-on bonus.
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Old 14th Oct 2021, 15:03
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Originally Posted by Jester64
Unfortunately these flow bonuses wonít be applicable to Aussie pilots on E-3s. Also I think currently only PSA is the only E-3 visa regional that is paying an sign-on bonus.
I haven't looked at the bonuses in any depth, but why wouldn't they apply to Aussies? Are they not a "you stay X years, and keep X dollars" type deal? Save for the one bonus that says you get it when you flow, I thought all the others were paid out after certain periods of service with the company.
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Old 14th Oct 2021, 15:56
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Originally Posted by DropYourSocks
I haven't looked at the bonuses in any depth, but why wouldn't they apply to Aussies? Are they not a "you stay X years, and keep X dollars" type deal? Save for the one bonus that says you get it when you flow, I thought all the others were paid out after certain periods of service with the company.
Because, if these bonuses are in some way tied to "flowing through" to a mainline partner, the Aussies on E3's won't qualify. There are yet to be any individuals on an E3 that have flowed to a mainline partner and I wouldn't hold my breath for it to happen any time soon, as I'm sure one of the conditions of flow is the "unrestricted" right to live and work in the US. That doesn't cover E3's.
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Old 15th Oct 2021, 03:07
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Because, if these bonuses are in some way tied to "flowing through" to a mainline partner, the Aussies on E3's won't qualify. There are yet to be any individuals on an E3 that have flowed to a mainline partner and I wouldn't hold my breath for it to happen any time soon, as I'm sure one of the conditions of flow is the "unrestricted" right to live and work in the US. That doesn't cover E3's.
Just because it hasnít been tested yet doesnít mean it wonít happen.

Have you actually read the flow clauses the various AA wholly owneds?
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Old 15th Oct 2021, 06:01
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Originally Posted by havick
Just because it hasnít been tested yet doesnít mean it wonít happen.

Have you actually read the flow clauses the various AA wholly owneds?
Iíll ask HR during my phone screening tonight
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Old 15th Oct 2021, 15:08
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Originally Posted by havick
Just because it hasn’t been tested yet doesn’t mean it won’t happen.

Have you actually read the flow clauses the various AA wholly owneds?
Easy Tiger.....This isn't the first time in the last 20 years there have been preferential interviews or flow-throughs. It's always been a set-in-stone requirement to gain employment with a legacy or major that you have the "Unrestricted" right to live and work in the US. So US passport or Green Card, anything else has restrictions on where you can work and for whom. For any company to offer employment to an E3, they'd have to reapply for the E3 status. Is that not correct; it's not transferable as far as I know.

You've been here a while and I know you've had the odd "sh!tty" comment made about being a foreigner here. Can you imagine the sh!t storm if United, Delta, or AA started effectively sponsoring foreigners? ALPA, DALPA, and the APA would lose their collective minds. I'm not saying it won't ever happen, just that we are a long way from a point where the majors are that desperate for pilots, that they'd take on that particular hot potato.

Now I think about it, if history is anything to go by, no one has probably thought about it or even considered what happens with E3's that become eligible for a flow position. They'll probably go "Huh" the first time they have an E3 get to that position and realize they can't do it. And at that point any contractual language will be spelt out, to make it clear.

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Old 15th Oct 2021, 15:59
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My experience so far here is that at a major, no-one seems to ask or care about what visa you're on to be there. The amount of nationalities in airline flight decks here is remarkably high, so no-one is surprised when you turn up and sound a bit different. To be fair, I have a green card now, but the guy who is on an E3 at the same airline has had the exact same experience. No-one asks, and we don't really tell.

The other thing I think is interesting wrt to E3s and a flow program, is the time it would take to flow. What are they quoting right now to flow? 5 years or there abouts? An Aussie has a roughly 5% chance of winning the dv lottery in any given year. Over 5 years should yield a decent chance of winning it. Or perhaps that WO regional may start sponsoring Aussies captains on green cards, the same as CommutAir is doing now. Maybe you meet an American and go down the marriage path. 5 years is a long time after all.

Immigration comes with a rather long list of risks with absolutely no guarantees, but if your gamble pays off in the US you do win big. Point in case, the guy that first helped me immigrate to the US now has a corporate job with an eye-watering salary package. He's just a regular dude who worked hard and took his opportunities.
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