Australian pilots can work for US regionals.
Pro Amateur,
That's a common misconception. Entering the DV lottery is not a declaration of immigration intent, and does not void your future E3 applications as a result. If you win however and proceed with the application then yes, no more E3, because at that point you have declared immigrant intent.
I'm also relatively sure the USCIS individuals that process your E3 visa cannot see if you have entered the lottery or not. If you are (very unlikely) asked though of you entered it, DO NOT LIE.
In any case, I think anyone that is interested in making the move to the US would be foolish not to throw in for the lottery.
Addendum:
For those wondering what would happen if you're on an E3 and win the lottery, it goes like this.
1. You win
2. You remain in country and file for a change of status (green card application)
3. During this time, you cannot leave the country, otherwise your application is considered abandoned. This would also screw you out of getting another E3.
4. Get work permit and travel visa (US equivalent of an Aus bridging visa)
5. Get green card. Live happily ever after.
The only catch is timing your greencard application so your E3 doesn't expire before getting the work and travel permit, which takes about 5 months.
That's a common misconception. Entering the DV lottery is not a declaration of immigration intent, and does not void your future E3 applications as a result. If you win however and proceed with the application then yes, no more E3, because at that point you have declared immigrant intent.
I'm also relatively sure the USCIS individuals that process your E3 visa cannot see if you have entered the lottery or not. If you are (very unlikely) asked though of you entered it, DO NOT LIE.
In any case, I think anyone that is interested in making the move to the US would be foolish not to throw in for the lottery.
Addendum:
For those wondering what would happen if you're on an E3 and win the lottery, it goes like this.
1. You win
2. You remain in country and file for a change of status (green card application)
3. During this time, you cannot leave the country, otherwise your application is considered abandoned. This would also screw you out of getting another E3.
4. Get work permit and travel visa (US equivalent of an Aus bridging visa)
5. Get green card. Live happily ever after.
The only catch is timing your greencard application so your E3 doesn't expire before getting the work and travel permit, which takes about 5 months.
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Yes... That is my understanding also. The lottery is cool....but the visa app is where youll hit a snag.....
So how does this work as a regional pilot.....ask to not fly to Canada?...
'During this time, you cannot leave the country, otherwise your application is considered abandoned. This would also screw you out of getting another E3.'......eek
So how does this work as a regional pilot.....ask to not fly to Canada?...
'During this time, you cannot leave the country, otherwise your application is considered abandoned. This would also screw you out of getting another E3.'......eek
Precisely. My company gave me a Canada restriction while I go through the greencard process so that I don't void the application.
Winning the lottery doesn't actually do anything as far as your current visa is concerned, and also does not obligate you to apply for a greencard. It simply gives you the opportunity. Once you take that opportunity and apply for the change of status is where you are no longer eligible for E3 nor can leave the US without government permission (travel permit I spoke of earlier)
Winning the lottery doesn't actually do anything as far as your current visa is concerned, and also does not obligate you to apply for a greencard. It simply gives you the opportunity. Once you take that opportunity and apply for the change of status is where you are no longer eligible for E3 nor can leave the US without government permission (travel permit I spoke of earlier)
DYS is right, with the small addition that one does not need to process by adjustment of status. You can do it by consular processing too, then you don't need to bid avoid international. Once the DS260 and / or i485 is submitted, then it's all or nothing.
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Hearing many Aussies on the radio in the US lately. Would be nice if the same visa courtesy was extended to us neighbours to the north. Have a feeling TC is lobbying against it. SAD!
GoJet's latest offering on AFAP posted on Oct. 7th:
"Eligible to work in the US under E3 visa eligibility "
https://www.afap.org.au/pilot-jobs/p...FFICER%20PILOT
"Eligible to work in the US under E3 visa eligibility "
https://www.afap.org.au/pilot-jobs/p...FFICER%20PILOT
I have a class date with GoJet in FEB, anybody else with upcoming courses? Also anybody on here currently at GoJet with current info? Bases out of training, reserve time, upgrade times, actual expected pay, flight hours, current culture and moral, etc. Have heard a lot of negatives in the forums, would like to know some positives from current pilots. So far all my dealings with the company have been friendly and professional, want to make sure it’s “safe” or should I be trying with the others. The CRJ550 looks like it is going to be a lot of fun!
C.C,
Glad to see you're coming up for a go at it. All things considered, it'll likely be at least good (enough) experience.
Have you see this domicile map and company profile ? It might give you some info but won't tell what bases you might get out of training:
http://www.pilotdomiciles.com/pilot_...-9-10-2019.png
https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...gojet_airlines
Glad to see you're coming up for a go at it. All things considered, it'll likely be at least good (enough) experience.
Have you see this domicile map and company profile ? It might give you some info but won't tell what bases you might get out of training:
http://www.pilotdomiciles.com/pilot_...-9-10-2019.png
https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...gojet_airlines
Thanks mate! Looking forward to it. Yes I’ve seen that, but there have been some changes with their bases recently as they prepare for the new aircraft. I hear that DTW, RDU and DEN are closing by end of year and they have recently opened GSO and EWR.
Bases going forward;
Chicago (ORD)
St. Louis (STL)
Greensboro (GSO)
Newark (EWR)
I am guessing that most new guys will be assigned Newark out of training. Does anyone know if they will still operate CRJ 700/900 or will it be an all CRJ 550 fleet and what will total fleet size be. I can’t seem to find a straight answer.
Bases going forward;
Chicago (ORD)
St. Louis (STL)
Greensboro (GSO)
Newark (EWR)
I am guessing that most new guys will be assigned Newark out of training. Does anyone know if they will still operate CRJ 700/900 or will it be an all CRJ 550 fleet and what will total fleet size be. I can’t seem to find a straight answer.
C.C,
Glad to see you're coming for a go at it. Have you see this domicile map and company profile ? It might give you some info but won't tell what bases you might get out of training:
http://www.pilotdomiciles.com/pilot_...-9-10-2019.png
https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...gojet_airlines
Glad to see you're coming for a go at it. Have you see this domicile map and company profile ? It might give you some info but won't tell what bases you might get out of training:
http://www.pilotdomiciles.com/pilot_...-9-10-2019.png
https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...gojet_airlines
Yep, a reasonable assumption...at least for your planning/attitude purposes. You won't know until the base bids come out once you're there, I'd assume. Losing the DL flying does put a certain air of uncertainty in the mix but that isn't necessarily a game killer.
Have you checked on Expressjet ? As usual, you can read positives and negatives about them but I don't think they're an unreasonable possibility.
There's a good bit of turmoil in the regional world at the moment but that seems to be part of the game. But, for your purposes of getting some airline experience, most regionals will fill that square.
C.C,
Yep, a reasonable assumption...at least for your planning/attitude purposes. You won't know until the base bids come out once you're there, I'd assume. Losing the DL flying does put a certain air of uncertainty in the mix but that isn't necessarily a game killer.
Have you checked on Expressjet ? As usual, you can read positives and negatives about them but I don't think they're an unreasonable possibility.
There's a good bit of turmoil in the regional world at the moment but that seems to be part of the game. But, for your purposes of getting some airline experience, most regionals will fill that square.
Yep, a reasonable assumption...at least for your planning/attitude purposes. You won't know until the base bids come out once you're there, I'd assume. Losing the DL flying does put a certain air of uncertainty in the mix but that isn't necessarily a game killer.
Have you checked on Expressjet ? As usual, you can read positives and negatives about them but I don't think they're an unreasonable possibility.
There's a good bit of turmoil in the regional world at the moment but that seems to be part of the game. But, for your purposes of getting some airline experience, most regionals will fill that square.
yeah from what I am hearing, ORD will become the most senior base with EWR most junior. They are aiming for roughly 150 pilots based in EWR and of the current base options would be my preference, but we will see how that pans out. I am also looking at Expressjet, hence why I am after current info from Gojet pilots to help with my planning. I’d prefer to fly a CRJ over the E145 and I hear chances of getting the E175 are less than 50/50 at moment. Would be more than happy on CRJ550/700/900 if the water is fine at Gojet!
And yes I agree there isn’t much difference once the logbook is ticking!
C.C
I don't anticipate you'll have to fight anyone to get EWR !
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There must be 100’s of Aussies who otherwise would have been competing for regional airline jobs here in Australia in America now. I can’t imagine the affect it’s going to have over the short to medium term for these businesses. Combine this with CASA’s strangle hold on the industry, the future isn’t looking up for most regional airlines at home.
There must be 100’s of Aussies who otherwise would have been competing for regional airline jobs here in Australia in America now. I can’t imagine the affect it’s going to have over the short to medium term for these businesses. Combine this with CASA’s strangle hold on the industry, the future isn’t looking up for most regional airlines at home.
Possibly a combination of the both. I have the 500ME box ticked and have not even received an acknowledgment of submitting an application to certain operators! Not gonna lose sleep over it though, plenty of great opportunities in the big wide world for those willing to leave the nest.
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Possibly a combination of the both. I have the 500ME box ticked and have not even received an acknowledgment of submitting an application to certain operators!
Good luck to you, you'll experience conditions you never would have here!
Not gonna lose sleep over it though, plenty of great opportunities in the big wide world for those willing to leave the nest
You'd think AW would put specific info about E3 recruiting on their official pilot hiring website rather than a fringe outlet (well, we old people might consider Instagram a fringe outlet).
They've taken visa holders for a while apparently. Why not just put it all out front like some other regionals have done ?:
Air Wisconsin, Jobs & Salary for Foreign Workers | myvisajobs.com
