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Old 10th Jun 2013, 12:34
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Quite the contrary.

As a few thread contributers have alluded to previous, the boys and girls at SSA/EAA are getting B717's, even though Cobham have been publicly announced as the prefered operator. Which means the little boys and girls at SSA/EAA are a certainty to get the C-Series, even though QANTAS haven't mentioned any intention to buy or lease any.

So it goes without saying, anyone can clearly see that once Sh*tstar have enough 787's for the boys at the top, SSA/EAA will be the next in line for the aircraft to operate on those ideal routes like SY-CB, SY-MQ, SY-CH, etc.. all ex SY of course, because as we all know, if it's not happening in SY, then it just isn't happening.

On a serious note though, I did hear rumours if Cobham can't get enough applicants to meet their expansion needs, then positions will be offered to SSA/EAA Q400 crews. I'm wondering how that would work. As Cobham is not a QANTAS Group company, can a MOU be put in place? Would the Q400 crews have to resign from SSA/EAA and start at the bottom of Cobhams seniority list or would their DOJ @ SSA/EAA be intergrated into Cobhams seniority list?

Anyway not my problem, just interesting to see how it all pans out.
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Old 10th Jun 2013, 13:23
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Sids old son, some one's having a lend of you. Big time.
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Old 10th Jun 2013, 14:06
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So it goes without saying, anyone can clearly see that once Sh*tstar have enough 787's for the boys at the top, SSA/EAA will be the next in line for the aircraft to operate on those ideal routes like SY-CB, SY-MQ, SY-CH, etc.
The jets will stay at Cobham, the props will stay at SSA/EAA. Don't delude yourself, introducing glass jets into a turbo prop operation is too hard, history is working against you. The B717 is established, the C series will just try and replicate what the 717 has been established on. Give it another 10 years then there might be a need for a new technology aeroplane.

Time to move on.

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Old 10th Jun 2013, 14:45
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I was taking the piss Kaboy. The day SSA/EAA get jets (787s to Coffs Harbour??) will be the day I take both Helen Clarke and Julia Gillard over the steps of parliament house and do to them what they've done to us !!
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Old 10th Jun 2013, 14:51
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What if QLink got jets and mainline wanted integration to feed their excess junior crew to . That would be funny .
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Old 11th Jun 2013, 00:11
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It's fact that Q400 crew will be sent to Cobham to fly the 717.

Something is in the making.
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Old 11th Jun 2013, 01:25
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Err...reference? Company/Union Letter? Tea Leaves? You can't make such broad declarations Green Goblin without coughing up some evidence.

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Old 11th Jun 2013, 01:48
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It's in the pipeline.

You'll see something shortly
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Old 11th Jun 2013, 02:07
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Don't delude yourself, introducing glass jets into a turbo prop operation is too hard, history is working against you.
Why is introducing a glass jet into a turbo prop operation hard? The Q400 is all glass, and has similar performance to a jet.

However I highly doubt SSA/EAA crew will fly the B717. We are having trouble crewing flights already and pilots are leaving to fly elsewhere.

Unless they a) pay us a lot more to stay on the prop or b) give us jets and jet pay, people will just continue to leave.

Qantas might have ordered the c series already and keeping it tight lipped for commercial benefits. Looking at their order books, there are a few undisclosed orders and press releases. There are hints here and there that matches the characteristic of Qantas as one of the undisclosed purchasers.
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Old 11th Jun 2013, 02:27
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The problem will be with CASA and the subsequent regulatory/paperwork/systems that ensues. Easier to just subby it out or get mainline to do it.
It can be done but its not the easiest option.
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Old 11th Jun 2013, 02:39
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bubble.head, you are a classic!
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Old 11th Jun 2013, 04:15
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Well gentlemen, things could certainly be getting more interesting than anyone could of imagined.

I have it on good authority that a couple of very senior EAA C&T Captains, along with some others from flight ops were seen to be touring the Boeing Dreamliner production line last month.

I've heard from a friend of mine in the states also that there was a 787 tech course run not so long ago with a couple of aussie guys from same said organization.

Watch this space, very interesting times indeed
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Old 11th Jun 2013, 04:17
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Why is introducing a glass jet into a turbo prop operation hard? The Q400 is all glass, and has similar performance to a jet.

Yep 50t, 0.79 FL390. That Q400 just needs to lose the props and there will be no difference. That's why airlines worldwide are putting these guys straight into the left seat.
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Old 11th Jun 2013, 04:45
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I've heard from a friend of mine in the states also that there was a 787 tech course run not so long ago with a couple of aussie guys from same said organization.
Nice windup there. CASA will never let you have heavy jets on a AOC with a bunch of checkers with no jet experience, and no Boeing experience.

If that was to happen you would have import a bunch of check captains with heavy Boeing experience and a whole bunch of DE captains with Heavy Boeing jet experience.

Yes it could happen but none of the current crew will be flying it thats for sure.

787s will be on the mainline AOC, or Jetstar and they will then be advertising for DE Boeing experienced guys.
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Old 11th Jun 2013, 05:42
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and has similar performance to a jet.
bubble.head that sounds like the qlink ad to convince the public - "jet like speed" are you Mr N Kumar?
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All this speculation. The direction of Qantas is like a bumper car. The guys driving have no idea where they're going, but wherever it is, they're going at full speed. Then they hit something (the law/competition/etc), bounce off, and fly off in another direction at top speed. At the end of the ride they get off and say, "that was fun", and some poor schmuck has to come in and repair all the carnage.

And before Qlink gets the Dreamliner they should think about getting a bus-liner to and from the carpark. It's getting worse and worse. But that's another matter....
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Old 11th Jun 2013, 07:44
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Nice windup there. CASA will never let you have heavy jets on a AOC with a bunch of checkers with no jet experience, and no Boeing experience.
Why not? CASA have done it before!
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Old 11th Jun 2013, 07:57
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How long are you guys going to speculate the same stuff over and over and over again....
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Old 11th Jun 2013, 16:33
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Working for Qantas is like working for Jay Gatsby. Every weekend you get to watch another fabulous party. All these people not even Jay knows turn up on some flimsy excuse [what was the last one? New Perth menus, or something].

You don't get to party, of course, but you do get to spend all week cleaning the rubbish out of the pool.

Ah well, at least when they are writing the obituaries, they'll be able to say 'they had no clue how to run an airline - but they gave the BEST parties!'.
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Old 12th Jun 2013, 02:36
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Nice windup there. CASA will never let you have heavy jets on a AOC with a bunch of checkers with no jet experience, and no Boeing experience.

If that was to happen you would have import a bunch of check captains with heavy Boeing experience and a whole bunch of DE captains with Heavy Boeing jet experience.

Yes it could happen but none of the current crew will be flying it thats for sure.

787s will be on the mainline AOC, or Jetstar and they will then be advertising for DE Boeing experienced guys.
Hi Neville_nobody,

My source, who also happens to be a very senior C&T Captain with heavy turboprop experience (he has substantial Tu-95 time) has told me that at least one of the fellows on said course does actually have Boeing heavy widebody experience.

Not only that but he also has Airbus heavy widebody and ultra long haul experience with a very large overseas middle east carrier and has only just recently returned to Australia for the lifestyle (after failing to get an interview with Tiger).

So you could say that this guy is a Senior management heavy turboprop (with glass cockpit and near jet like speeds) Check and Training Captain with ultra long haul heavy Boeing and Airbus widebody experience.

I think that such a gentleman would more than meet the requirements of CASA for such a proposed operation and one can only wonder what he would be doing on a Dreamliner tech course.

Interesting times, watch this space!

Just my two cents worth
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