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Old 14th Jun 2013, 04:20
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I think QLink's got a great future.

If the question's really about jets for Sunnies & Eastern, in the foreseeable future at least I reckon it'll require Cobham to buy them off QF, or QF to buy Airline Services from Cobham, integrate the three pilot groups, then there'll be a clear pathway from turboprop to jet.
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Old 14th Jun 2013, 05:03
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Well gentlemen as I retire myself to the reading room, comfortable in my tweed slippers having just poured some of the finest Remy Martin into a balloon snifter at my side, I stare out at the garden and contemplate the enlightening discussion that has been had here by the PPRuNe intelligentsia.

Let us now reflect on the main points of said discussion.

1. Will Qantaslink obtain jet powered aircraft in the future and if so, which sort?

2. If said organization did obtain said aircraft, how would they handle the massive up skilling required to operate such complex machines?

3. One thing gentlemen I think that we can all agree on, is that you can't compare the cadetship programs of civilian airlines to that of the rigorous regime of testing and selection in the military

I think that about covers it, anyone else have more to add?

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Old 14th Jun 2013, 08:06
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Talking

1. Will Qantaslink obtain jet powered aircraft in the future and if so, which sort?
They already have jets - B717.

Have another snifter of your Remy Martin mate
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Old 14th Jun 2013, 08:44
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Originally Posted by Hugh Jarse
They already have jets - B717.
Touché Hugh, touché!
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Old 14th Jun 2013, 09:08
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Jesus... That's 3 full laps around this circular argument

Yes, have jets via Cobham's crewing company
Yes, they are getting more
No, Eastern and Sunnys won't get them.
They have turboprops and will continue to specialise on that aspect
This is how the pigeon-hole companys of QANTAS are developing
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Hey Clarrie - my old man told me "you can't put brains in a statue". Evident by some of the people here having difficulty comprehending the obvious

Buttscratcher: Nice, succinct and right to the point. Well done, that man
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Old 14th Jun 2013, 11:42
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Originally Posted by Buttscratcher View Post
Jesus... That's 3 full laps around this circular argument

Yes, have jets via Cobham's crewing company
Yes, they are getting more
No, Eastern and Sunnys won't get them.
They have turboprops and will continue to specialise on that aspect
This is how the pigeon-hole companys of QANTAS are developing
Does anyone seriously believe that the Link will get 787's? There's a better chance of Dash-8's operating SY-Bali.
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Old 14th Jun 2013, 11:59
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I thought we already had the Space Shuttle, but I guess since its retirement, we will have to put up with the 787's.

Sorry!



Onto serious things. It will be 3-4 years away. Until QantasLink reduces its rates of incidences which have been experienced over the last 12 months....qantas would not put a jet into the operation there for the risk of brand damage! Remember Darwin in the Cobham aircraft people! it should have been written off! Just like Qantas mainline Bangkok and a few other accidents!

Qlink was a messy thing and management without the skills to build it into a viable cashcow operation. The management team here now, will iron out and improve the operation.


It is above those at the management table at qlink that decide whether jets arrive or not. Until heavy landings, stick shakers and the rest stop, jets are not going to be arriving. 2018 is my bet! If you are young and smart.....get out!

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Old 14th Jun 2013, 15:49
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Watchit Mr Pixels, much more of that & Elvis and Harold Holt will leave their bunker under Ayers Rock and come to haunt you.
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Old 14th Jun 2013, 17:44
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All a bit laughable really.

You can picture it, some pimple face **** walking in on day one of the new EBA saying " right guys, if you agree to bend over, take it in the rear then there is a slight possibility you may be able to fly the 787. Trade off is you give up the Vaseline"

Sound familiar?

Rant over.

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Old 14th Jun 2013, 18:21
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Hope mainline management have factored in a huge increase in their councelling budget while they slowly shift work to other groups . The post before illustrates the damage being done . This is just a rumor blogg with many wind ups , better to not log in .
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Old 14th Jun 2013, 20:14
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How much do you think 'the difference' costs. Its all part of that...
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Old 15th Jun 2013, 03:47
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Remember Darwin in the Cobham aircraft people! it should have been written off! Just like Qantas mainline Bangkok and a few other accidents!
Cobham do not own any B717 aircraft, they crew and maintain the ones that Qantas own.
Nowhere near write off value in either case.
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Old 15th Jun 2013, 04:53
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Nowhere near write off value in either case.
Shirley you can't be serious..................

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Pretty sure they are leased by QF, not owned, big difference.
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Old 15th Jun 2013, 06:35
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All you lot talking Eastern, Sunstate, Cobham, ad infinitum.
There is a very strong rumour QF may be purchasing (or maybe already have) a jet operater called Network, and they could have as many as 12 jets within 2 years.
You heard it here first ;-)
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Old 15th Jun 2013, 07:16
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Yes, we did "hear it here first", but not from you. Officially in Dec 2010, but the rumour had been around in Sep 2010,
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Airdualbleedfault, it's not a big difference. The argument is that the a/c are not Cobham's, but QFs. Whether they are leased or owned by QF is irrelevant, they are controlled by QF.
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This, my friends, should have been the last post in this thread!!!!

Jesus... That's 3 full laps around this circular argument
Yes, have jets via Cobham's crewing company
Yes, they are getting more
No, Eastern and Sunnys won't get them.
They have turboprops and will continue to specialise on that aspect
This is how the pigeon-hole companys of QANTAS are developing
But no, you guys just keep dreaming and rambling on, and keep disproving the general public's opinion that pilots are quite intelligent.


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Old 16th Jun 2013, 11:58
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My apologies ANCPER, you are quite right, there is little difference between trying to sell an aircraft and just handing it back at the end of the lease (or earlier depending on the lease condition) , my bad.
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