QANTAS - WHERE TO NOW?
I believe what they were trying to say is that the measures that have so far taken place have cost 2800 jobs, which are not fully realised yet.
Who knows whats in store for the next few years. Qantas used to have 35000 staff, now its 28000
Who knows whats in store for the next few years. Qantas used to have 35000 staff, now its 28000
Nunc est bibendum
That's the number that shocked me 6000 lb. In about 2001 QF had 35,000 staff (no sign of J* at that stage). We've reduced by a significant number of people over that time. No doubt our airframe count has decreased at 'mainline' (oops, I mean domestic and international) since then too.
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Smoke and Mirrors
Keg, I'm sure you will find it is all the same smoke and mirrors we have been subjected to for many years.
This is the first time a number of 26000 has been used. I'm quite sure the number is still nearer to 35000.
You have to look at the words that are used by our managers.
There have been a few engineers retrenched recently and there was the 1500 management in 2009? and then the 500 management in 2011? but not many more than that, certainly no mere plebs like us.
They are still way over staffed for the number of services operated.
It will be interesting to read what the official company report has to say.
May the floggings continue......!!
This is the first time a number of 26000 has been used. I'm quite sure the number is still nearer to 35000.
You have to look at the words that are used by our managers.
There have been a few engineers retrenched recently and there was the 1500 management in 2009? and then the 500 management in 2011? but not many more than that, certainly no mere plebs like us.
They are still way over staffed for the number of services operated.
It will be interesting to read what the official company report has to say.
May the floggings continue......!!
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Just got the misses to watch the add from the start without her knowing what it was for and tell me what she thought it was advertising while it rolled.
She first thought it was for insurance, then for farmers.
Her final statement when it finished and the coin dropped was there was nothing international about it.
She first thought it was for insurance, then for farmers.
Her final statement when it finished and the coin dropped was there was nothing international about it.
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Just tired of seeing seeing popular Qantas topic google searches looking like this, . now months
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and always on the same theme.. not a good image for an airline, thinking out loud.. "it's a mess really" are the first set of words that frequent my mind lately......
Makes me think, no wonder the punters are flying with everyone else, they probably think it's all over red rover"
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and always on the same theme.. not a good image for an airline, thinking out loud.. "it's a mess really" are the first set of words that frequent my mind lately......
Makes me think, no wonder the punters are flying with everyone else, they probably think it's all over red rover"
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Purvinas/AALEA: truce meaning peace in our time; Sheldon/TWU: creamed, not smart enough to realise/accept it though; Jackson-Woodward/AIPA: watch this space. The judges' reasons in the TWU decision knocks most of AIPA's case out of the ring.
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This is a link on the 2,800 jobs to go.
Qantas to cut 2800 jobs in five years | News.com.au
The above is the last line of the news article. It looks like the accelerated retirement of the 744's (RR powered) has been turbo boosted and will be no more come the end of October. Well, only two of them left, not including OEB.
21 aircraft for an international fleet! Looks like QANTAS international will only be servicing the pacific to the US.
Qantas to cut 2800 jobs in five years | News.com.au
By the end of October, the group's international fleet will include 12 A380s and nine Boeing 747s.
21 aircraft for an international fleet! Looks like QANTAS international will only be servicing the pacific to the US.
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Just tired of seeing seeing popular Qantas topic google searches looking like this, . now months
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snapshot.
and always on the same theme.. not a good image for an airline, thinking out loud.. "it's a mess really" are the first set of words that frequent my mind lately......
Makes me think, no wonder the punters are flying with everyone else, they probably think it's all over red rover"
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snapshot.
and always on the same theme.. not a good image for an airline, thinking out loud.. "it's a mess really" are the first set of words that frequent my mind lately......
Makes me think, no wonder the punters are flying with everyone else, they probably think it's all over red rover"
Let's have a look and see the types operated. Aging 747's across the Pacific and South Africa. A380's across the Pacific and to London. Aging 767's to Honolulu. The odd A330 to Asia. What do our competitors use for similar sectors? 777's across the Pacific, Asia and to Europe. A330's to Honolulu and across Asia and the odd A380 to Asia and Middle East.
A fleet of 21 aircraft with a ratio of 4:3 mix to fly internationally, is not good for business.
By the end of October, the group's international fleet will include 12 A380s and nine Boeing 747s.
By the end of October, our international fleet will include 12 A380s and nine Boeing 747s with award-winning all Marc Newson interiors.
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I doubt highly that anything major will occur with emirates. Maybe a token code share on some routes: ADL-DXB (when they start their services) and onward DXB-CDG etc. I'd more fancy Qatar are a better suited partner in crime.
Seems everyday there is a new excuse - geographic location, aus $, Australia's low population...We all know Joyce and Co are incompetent - we just need the financial results to be announced to prove it!
Seems everyday there is a new excuse - geographic location, aus $, Australia's low population...We all know Joyce and Co are incompetent - we just need the financial results to be announced to prove it!
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Apparently talks have failed between the two (ek + qf) and that's why today Joyce is taking the line that " the airline is not in a hurry for alliances". There is now no interest from anyone anymore.
The way Joyce has gone about destroying this airline he won't even be able to give it away soon.
Please shareholders get rid of this clown!
The way Joyce has gone about destroying this airline he won't even be able to give it away soon.
Please shareholders get rid of this clown!
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I can't see LHR being closed down when AKL international has been kept running with zero flights. LHR has 2 x A380 flights compared to up to 3 x 747 LHR crewed sectors when the base opened. The difference in crew utilised now is marginal at best. Think of how much it saves the company in OT sector payments, transport, hotels and allowances. I think the only way LHR base would be closed down is if LHR as a port itself, was closed down...If the EK deal works out though resulting in a re-route via DXB, I'm skeptical that an extra 2 x LHR-DXB sectors a day would be required from QF on top of EKs 5, BAs 2, VS' 1 and BIs 1...
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AJ is a bad Omen ,any time u see him in press conference all will be bad news for employees and their families,
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How are the guys in other bases working after what AJ and his managers sacked their engineers in tullamarine and Avalon,I think there are more to come and moral in line is all time low and all we do is talk about the company next move instead of concentrating about work,Avalon is in worst situation as the do not know when is the next redundancy coming,engineering is the front line of the company and is being destroyed,so AJ stop emphasizing about safety and quality.
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How are the guys in other bases working after what AJ and his managers sacked their engineers in tullamarine and Avalon,I think there are more to come and moral in line is all time low and all we do is talk about the company next move instead of concentrating about work,
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It's always bad news, as it's his way of saying that the international side of things is kaput, and that it is no longer viable to fly internationally. It's really a continuation of Dixon who had nothing but bad news for QANTAS, but were always posting great profits, and the board pocketing great bonuses.