QANTAS - WHERE TO NOW?
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You should be going to management with a "proactive" not "reactive" attitude. The real management - The people in the shadows, are actually trying to protect your interests.
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The real management - The people in the shadows, are actually trying to protect your interests.
Some of the statements on here are just comical at best.
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You must have read my mind ALAEA. I just posted on another blog how about the unions get together for a fighting fund. Seeing that Thomson could "borrow" $500,000 for trips, dinners, and shagging at knock shops, surely they could raise enough money to a pay for a live ad, to tell the punters what is really happening. it will not be long before the same punters are seriously asking who is this Irish git who is stuffing Qannas? And why? This is far better than hand wringing and brow wiping by individual unions or indeed individuals. Right now Joyce and Clifford are not travelling well, the media is starting to sniff around, the Govt. and the Opposition are worried, nobody wants QF to cark it on their watch. People power People, you really are in the position to turn the ship around with the right leader. Off your arses and get going, contact your union, put it to them, get it out there, fight for the ship, its worth fighting for.
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Just showed these ALAEA advertisements to 5 adults & not one of them could understand what they were on about. If that is the best we can do we are in trouble! 
Agreed. You guys need to fork out some serious cash for a good PR team, or sack the ones you've got. Those posters look like they were done up by someone after work over a few beers! Surely thats not your last stand?
You must have read my mind ALAEA. I just posted on another blog how about the unions get together for a fighting fund.
Either there is alot of incompetent management at QF or the real players are manoeuvring QF for something. Ever since the APA debacle QF management decisions have not exactly been in the best interest of QF.
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Hundreds of thousands of people have lost their jobs oversea's already esp in manufacturing......they got on with their lives and many even improved their "station" in sectors such as mining. You will not win this battle. It will actually backfire.
Qantas pays (particularly pilots and engineers) on par what they earn overseas. A small change in the $AUD changes the balance on that considerably, so for the millionth time, this is NOT ABOUT PAY RATES! Almost any engineer or pilot could move overseas and live the same lifestyle as they have in Aus. The airline industry was the FIRST group to 'offshore'. This is not about pay rates, location etc it is about idiots destroying a great company.
Either you are an incompetent manager, or you have swallowed the most simplistic line possible about what this is about in which case you are an incompetent sight seer.
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Just showed these ALAEA advertisements to 5 adults & not one of them could understand what they were on about.
Yep we thought so as well and these two weren't for release. I was assuming the readers here would have understood them though.
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I don't trust the management, but then again, I don't trust my union either!! As a short haul guy, I was disgusted at the AIPA Secure Our Flying pay scales. As usual, they had SO pay rates (A380) higher than FO 737 pay rates (if we were included under their award). & of course the A380 pay rates were up 10-15% but the 737 FO pay rates would be down approx 15% (yes I understand the proposed 737 rates would include LH protections - night credits, min guarantee etc. but I don't want them, I like the short haul pay for work ethic).
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I just wish we could all work together (whole company) to get back on track. Remove all personal agendas & inequalities.
I see it more and more. As soon as a change is touted, all the little gremlins go running for the supervisor's or manger's office and put their viewpoint forward (which normally aligns with the above mentioned change) and then try to spin it back to the "troops" as something they've come up with or "takes in the best of both worlds for both the company and the workers".
The whole place has become a snake pit.
280 - 380 mill earmarked for 'restructuring'. Where can that go apart from redundancies on a massive scale for long haul - whoops International. Could see a fair few 400s parked and resultant surplus in the next few months.
Keg pointed out on another forum the savings resulting from the "restructuring" are touted as being $200+ million PER ANNUM
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Steve.
A possible advertising campaign.
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"Alan Joyce says no Maintanence is being sent offshore.
You don't need Maintanence when your downsizing the national carrier"
A possible advertising campaign.
Welcome to Flickr!
"Alan Joyce says no Maintanence is being sent offshore.
You don't need Maintanence when your downsizing the national carrier"