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Old 12th Jun 2012, 00:42
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Are these ads seriously going to be put out in the media?

Now's not the time to skimp on marketing, get a good ad agency and get them to do your campaign. The Qantas PR machine will attack anything you put out there and you want it to be water tight.

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Old 12th Jun 2012, 00:45
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Meanwhile, the operational side at Q, Keep the Show On the Road!

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Old 12th Jun 2012, 01:38
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If Qantas want to attack a campaign, they will just draw more attention to the problem.
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 01:54
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I must agree ...If we are to put out "advertising " for our cause it will be necessary to put our hands in our pockets to pay for professional input.

If not , it will be a waste of time..and we as members of ALAEA will look very unprofessional in our plight.

Otherwise we shouldn't bother , now is not the time to be tight ass LAMES as we are fighting for the future of our industry and trade ( in whatever form it may be).

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Old 12th Jun 2012, 02:17
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We already do pay for this advice and anything that is to be released has been market tested.
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 02:48
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Would it not be better to have a walking talking ad Fed? Using money from all the unions involved. One that tugs at the public's heartstrings so to speak. You know the drill, from QFs beginning thru the war years, to rescuing the public from bombs and Tsunamis, and cyclones etc, yacka, yacka, yacka. I don't think still ads are going to cut it as much. The public and the media are showing signs of "what the is going on" with QF, and it needs to be told there are two sides to this story. Just a suggestion.
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We already do pay for this advice and anything that is to be released has been market tested.
I'd be asking for your money back if you paid for the one's shown here! Who did them, a year 7 arts class?

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Old 12th Jun 2012, 03:15
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Like a pair of vultures fighting over the bones: Qantas management and unions. Interesting self-destructive quarrel to see which group wins the fight for control. Intentional baiting from management and immature reaction from unions. Meanwhile, the customers, shareholders, ex-employees with other options, sought-after qualifications and flexible lives that were essential to the continuing viability of the airline, have become pissed with the childish nah-nah-nahing and sick of being the pawns in a silly game of one-up-manship and are in the process of taking their money and skills elsewhere. Antagonistic games that have become openly apparent in levels of service, aircraft availability and staff attitudes. Carry on chaps! I have this vision of the board, the CEO and a few union execs having a final duel in a misty dawn light over the grave of a once-great airline. No spectators, no press, no interest.

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Old 12th Jun 2012, 03:52
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Would it not be better to have a walking talking ad Fed? Using money from all the unions involved. One that tugs at the public's heartstrings so to speak. You know the drill, from QFs beginning thru the war years, to rescuing the public from bombs and Tsunamis, and cyclones etc, yacka, yacka, yacka.

Sometimes its hard to co-ordinate all the unions. The idea is good though.
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 05:25
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Qantas’s head of corporate affairs, Olivia Wirth, today confirmed “the formation of the defence team” but declined to comment further.
With the airline’s market capitalisation at just $2.2 billion, a large group of investors will find it much easier to raise the funds neccessary to buy a stake of between 10 and 15 per cent while meeting the conditions of the Qantas Sale Act. The legislation limits foreign ownership of Qantas to a total of 49 per cent.
Qantas fears a private equity consortium would look to break up the airline, and sell off divisions such as the Frequent Flyer loyalty program, Jetstar and QantasLink.
The airline also has $3 billion in cash sitting on its balance sheet.
Qantas believes that a hostile investor would embark on a destabilisation strategy as part of an attempt to take effective control.
funny about that, for me, the last thing Qantas needs, more distractions from its core problems which has been par for the course for too long already...
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 05:31
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Ok, the Australian reports there is something in the pipeline involving Dixon, Singleton and Carnagie, anybody heard anything?
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Its also in the SMH business.
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 05:48
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Well, we have all been expecting Dixon and Co to make a move.......thats what this is all about,isn't it?
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Appointing Macquarie to DEFEND against a takeover. HA HA HA!

More like Macquarie is there to FACILITATE a takeover.
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 06:13
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Angel Divide et impera

'pose I've been around for 'while, and have watched the divide and conquer philosophy of the current management to include the likes of the jetstar model like a burgeoning zit on a adolesent face of a proud national carrier happening for a decade or so now.......

The times, they are a changing, as Bob Dylan famously said, and as we well know money talks and bull**** walks.......

All I can say to all my brothers affected within this current economic crisis is to be 'united and stand firm', so any conditions, lifestyle choices, and yes moolah, Alan, that pot of gold that we all adhere to and which we all work so bloody hard for gets shared just a tad more evenly and spread around a bit more, to be sure, to be sure ..............

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Old 12th Jun 2012, 06:35
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Dixon's private battle has been a heavy burden

"We would have a drink every couple of weeks," he says.

"We get on very well. We are, as he said the other day, very left of centre in our politics. Do I give him some advice? Very rarely. If he asks my opinion, I give it. When we get together we talk principally about airlines."
Qantas chiefs chat: who gets the tab? March 30, 2012

Last year Dixon admitted they met every few weeks and just this week Joyce flagged plans to catch up with the old boss.
So Joyce has regularly been meeting with, and occasionally been taking advice from, a member of a consortium that may now be involved in a hostile takeover bid. This has occurred over a long time period and as recently as 2 months ago. How can his position as CEO not be compromised?
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 06:57
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Macquarie??? Well, the poacher has now been put in charge. Time to grab the popcorn methinks.

Those that are hoping for re-nationslisation are delusional. Let's play that scenario through shall we.

The current government is run by the Greens. They're hardly in the business of propping up failed airlines. In fact, their stated policy is essentially dancing on the corpse of the aviation industry. So no assistance there.

Which leaves QF hanging on by it's finger nails for the next 12 months until the next federal election. Then along comes the great White Knight.... (drumroll)..... TONY ABBOTT????

Yes, the savior of working Aussies will be the new QF chairman Tony Abbott. Along with his obvious choice for CEO, Peter Reith. What a workplace that would be.

So nationslisation is not going to happen. The breakup of QF is. Employees of QF, you can either be a part of what happens next or not. It's time for you to react rationally. But I honestly don't think your masters care which road you chose to take.

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Old 12th Jun 2012, 06:58
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Of course, when you come up with a defensive strategy you must identify the weaknesses that others may use to penetrate your defences.

Knowledge of those weaknesses is crucial for a defensive strategy. Conversely, it is also crucial for an offensive strategy when looking to exploit those same weaknesses.

Whether a takeover is hostile or not really lies in the eye of the beholder.

This stinks of Dixon et. al.
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 07:01
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The sad thing is every man and his dog in the industry knew Dixon would be back, I don't like Dramas where you already know the ending....Breakup and Checkmate!
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 08:18
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If that is the case, lets hope that ASIC are all over those friendly chats that have been going on after hours. There is only so long you can discuss poodles before it turns to business.
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