QANTAS - WHERE TO NOW?
Life's too short to read or watch anything connected with Rupert Murdoch or News Limited, do yourself a favour guys and keep your blood pressure down, you know where their loyalties lie.
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News Ltd online readers in decline?
Life's too short to read or watch anything connected with Rupert Murdoch or News Limited, do yourself a favour guys and keep your blood pressure down, you know where their loyalties lie.
There is a good side regarding this puff piece in the Australian, the paywall.. very small online readership, people are moving away from the Murdoch press in their droves to the other free news sites.. Good to see that OW is keeping up with the trends......
The chief executive of Fairfax Metro Media, Jack Matthews, said the figures ''reflected Fairfax's well flagged strategy of building readers across all platforms.''
for example
As one investor said yesterday, when it comes to making Jetstar the aviation McDonald's of Asia, it would be better to follow the script of letting someone else put up the capital with Jetstar contributing the recipe.
Read more: Asian start-up won't get off the ground
Read more: Asian start-up won't get off the ground
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TIMA9X, another stellar picture, to be sure.
Explains why he has put on so much weight!
Anyway yes, QF has become a McDonalds in it's service standards.
Explains why he has put on so much weight!
Anyway yes, QF has become a McDonalds in it's service standards.
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"It simply makes you realise what a tragic loss Borgetti was, imagine how QF would be firing along now."
JB would be doing exactly the same at QF were he to be CEO instead of AJ.
Don’t be fooled by JB. He moved to an airline that does not have the decades of industrial fat that hobble QF. He can appear to be Mr. nice guy because he is not confronted with the industrial rationalization hurdle that AJ is.
JB would be doing exactly the same at QF were he to be CEO instead of AJ.
Don’t be fooled by JB. He moved to an airline that does not have the decades of industrial fat that hobble QF. He can appear to be Mr. nice guy because he is not confronted with the industrial rationalization hurdle that AJ is.
DEFCON:
Joyce is just the front man, Clifford is the problem. Clifford runs the show, Joyce is the sap mouthpiece.
To think that Clifford would replace Joyce is wrong. Clifford and Joyce need to go for Q to have any chance of surviving.
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The board and Clifford have realized their error and a replacement is being sought
To think that Clifford would replace Joyce is wrong. Clifford and Joyce need to go for Q to have any chance of surviving.
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Reading the fluff piece on Joyce confirms to me, he's not the man for the job.
Not only has he managed to disengage his workforce. Now he's working over the full range of passengers. Every airline around the world has stuff stolen on it from passengers. To accuse his premium passengers of stealing a spoon is deplorable. Hell, if a first class passenger wants to take a spoon as souvenir of their experience. Give them a full cutlery set and a bottle of champagne as well. Have a look on E*B*A*Y, you can buy a Qantas spoon for $5. There's currently more than 10 available & a guy in Thailand is willing to ship worldwide.
As for AJ's comment "I'm feeling great, no issues". Could someone please remind the little fella, it was only six months ago he grounded an entire airline and disrupted the travel plans of 100,000 people. The article even goes on to state passengers missed weddings, funerals & holidays as a result of AJ's actions.
Speaking of grounding an airline, something as momentous as that and being a mathematical wizz kid. I find it hard to believe he couldn't pinpoint what time he "decided to take drastic action". Mind you if he did recall that specific time, it may not align with what he told the good senators in the inquiry.
As for the "intense personal focus coupled with the death threats". Haven't we already determined the police looked at the death threats & found no criminal acts were committed.
As for AJ's source of advise & comfort during the ordeal with those mean unions. What qualifications has his partner got in running an international airline. Or for that matter grounding one. But I'm glad that AJ "trusts him completely and doesn't talk to anyone about it". It could've been real messy if the partner spilt the beens to the market or announced a possible grounding prior to the AGM on 28th Oct.
The conversation with Willie Walsh is an insight to AJ's abilities. AJ states to WW "why do we run full service legacy carriers, because it's much easier running low cost carriers". In truth, AJ's strategy is running down the full service carrier. If your not up to the job, need advise from your partner or you can sleep so easy prior to deciding to ground an airline. Then maybe this line of works not for you.
As if grounding an airline isn't hectic enough. I'm glad to hear AJ got to take three weeks off over Christmas. "Exhausted", after grounding the national carrier.
It must be so tuff on the little fella, I don't know why he does it. Especially since he gets paid less per hour than one of his Captains.
Not only has he managed to disengage his workforce. Now he's working over the full range of passengers. Every airline around the world has stuff stolen on it from passengers. To accuse his premium passengers of stealing a spoon is deplorable. Hell, if a first class passenger wants to take a spoon as souvenir of their experience. Give them a full cutlery set and a bottle of champagne as well. Have a look on E*B*A*Y, you can buy a Qantas spoon for $5. There's currently more than 10 available & a guy in Thailand is willing to ship worldwide.
As for AJ's comment "I'm feeling great, no issues". Could someone please remind the little fella, it was only six months ago he grounded an entire airline and disrupted the travel plans of 100,000 people. The article even goes on to state passengers missed weddings, funerals & holidays as a result of AJ's actions.
Speaking of grounding an airline, something as momentous as that and being a mathematical wizz kid. I find it hard to believe he couldn't pinpoint what time he "decided to take drastic action". Mind you if he did recall that specific time, it may not align with what he told the good senators in the inquiry.
As for the "intense personal focus coupled with the death threats". Haven't we already determined the police looked at the death threats & found no criminal acts were committed.
As for AJ's source of advise & comfort during the ordeal with those mean unions. What qualifications has his partner got in running an international airline. Or for that matter grounding one. But I'm glad that AJ "trusts him completely and doesn't talk to anyone about it". It could've been real messy if the partner spilt the beens to the market or announced a possible grounding prior to the AGM on 28th Oct.
The conversation with Willie Walsh is an insight to AJ's abilities. AJ states to WW "why do we run full service legacy carriers, because it's much easier running low cost carriers". In truth, AJ's strategy is running down the full service carrier. If your not up to the job, need advise from your partner or you can sleep so easy prior to deciding to ground an airline. Then maybe this line of works not for you.
As if grounding an airline isn't hectic enough. I'm glad to hear AJ got to take three weeks off over Christmas. "Exhausted", after grounding the national carrier.
It must be so tuff on the little fella, I don't know why he does it. Especially since he gets paid less per hour than one of his Captains.
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Full page Qantas ads for cheap business clas seats out of melburne both domestic and overseas should tell you what is happening.
The puff piece is most probably a quid pro quo for a full page ad or Two.
The puff piece is most probably a quid pro quo for a full page ad or Two.
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The article also failed to mention that Willie Walsh and AJ are related.
Not sure how close, but I believe they're second cousins.
Nepotism anyone?
With all the worlds airlines being run by Irishmen, and then taking a look at Ireland, one of the basket case economies of Europe, I think I may have identified why the industry is such a mess. It's all run by Irishmen who can't even run their own country.
Not sure how close, but I believe they're second cousins.
Nepotism anyone?
With all the worlds airlines being run by Irishmen, and then taking a look at Ireland, one of the basket case economies of Europe, I think I may have identified why the industry is such a mess. It's all run by Irishmen who can't even run their own country.
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In fact, the pair are even family: Walsh's wife is a second cousin of Mr Joyce's mother.
And who also locked out his staff?
A three-day lockout occurred in 2002 during the peak of the cutbacks.
Who also turned a full service airline into a LCC?
He reconfigured Aer Lingus as a low-cost airline in imitation of Ryanair, and began withdrawing from various services like short-haul Business Class and cargo services, and heavily restricting the airline's frequent-flyer programme,
What a series of "amazing" coincidences. Yes, Alan did resolve on the Saturday to lockout staff on the way to work.
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If the plan is to asset and brand strip qantas dry to build and flog off jetstar to "sophisticated investors" hopefully it will be done soon and the carcass of qantas given back to the tax payer soon so it can be rebuilt. Flew brisbane heathrow via hong kong last week. Qantas was jetstar via sydney so that was out. Striking was the absence of qantas tails in all of those places where they used to be everywhere a decade ago. Tried to get a ticketing change at heathrow. Qantas desk didn't open until 3.30 in Arvo as apparently no flights anymore from terminal 3 anymore until then. Maybe just nostalgia but I seem to remember a lot more qantas and less finniar around the place.
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Qantas' flights of fancy
Qantas' flights of fancy
THREE fictitious Asian airlines recently conceptualised by Qantas have been given the all-clear to launch imaginary flights.
Despite Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce discontinuing talks with Malaysia Airlines in March over a proposed joint venture, the airline names RedQ, OneAsia and RedQ Executive Flyer have now been successfully trademarked in Australia.
Qantas is still waiting for its other fictitious airline, RedSky, to be included on the IP Australia register. It is believed the new airlines will have significantly lower operating costs than even Jetstar.
The Flying Kangaroo could always launch the mock airline RedHerring the next time it does battle with its Australian unions and threatens to move more of its operations to Asia.
Read more: Stockland adds another R to its strategy
THREE fictitious Asian airlines recently conceptualised by Qantas have been given the all-clear to launch imaginary flights.
Despite Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce discontinuing talks with Malaysia Airlines in March over a proposed joint venture, the airline names RedQ, OneAsia and RedQ Executive Flyer have now been successfully trademarked in Australia.
Qantas is still waiting for its other fictitious airline, RedSky, to be included on the IP Australia register. It is believed the new airlines will have significantly lower operating costs than even Jetstar.
The Flying Kangaroo could always launch the mock airline RedHerring the next time it does battle with its Australian unions and threatens to move more of its operations to Asia.
Read more: Stockland adds another R to its strategy
QANTAS have been 'cute'
Fiji frustrated with Qantas on Asia Pacific | News | Business Spectator
The Fijian government has expressed frustration concerning its negotiations with Qantas Airways Ltd over the Australian carrier's shareholding in Fijian airline Air Pacific, according to The Australian Financial Review.
Fijian Minister for Tourism Aiyaz Sayed-Khaiyum told the newspaper that the behaviour of Qantas had been "cute", and said the value of the stake was "...not worth what (Qantas) are saying it’s worth”.
The government has released letters and documents sent between the parties over the negotiations, and describing Qantas’ price expectations on the stake as “too high”.
The government said Qantas had been attempting to sell its 46.3 per cent share in Air Pacific back to Fiji for $F70 million ($38.22 million) for over two years.
Fijian Minister for Tourism Aiyaz Sayed-Khaiyum told the newspaper that the behaviour of Qantas had been "cute", and said the value of the stake was "...not worth what (Qantas) are saying it’s worth”.
The government has released letters and documents sent between the parties over the negotiations, and describing Qantas’ price expectations on the stake as “too high”.
The government said Qantas had been attempting to sell its 46.3 per cent share in Air Pacific back to Fiji for $F70 million ($38.22 million) for over two years.
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Good pick up Tim, "Red Herring", that is one beautiful line.
You knew you were going to be swapping BA half way through so you had a choice to book on someone else, if you'd read the itinerary it wouldn't have been a surprise would it?
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The same contentious issue about code sharing has been doing the rounds for too long and no longer stands as a point of argument. Makes one realise how silly the average punter really is? Not reading ones basic itinerary?
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Mr Wobbles,
Your old man should complain direct to Qantas, here at pprune we know these issues but cannot do anything.
He did have the option of traveling to LHR with Qantas [via Singapore],
only the Bangkok and Hong Kong services continue with BA as far as I know.
Perhaps the via BKK and HKG service is cheaper?
[negating the "get what you paid for" argument]
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Your old man should complain direct to Qantas, here at pprune we know these issues but cannot do anything.
He did have the option of traveling to LHR with Qantas [via Singapore],
only the Bangkok and Hong Kong services continue with BA as far as I know.
Perhaps the via BKK and HKG service is cheaper?
[negating the "get what you paid for" argument]T