New 'Aviation Minister' after Monday?
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I'm concerned about GOBBLEs fetish with piles of poo, both monkey and pony.
None the less, I guess most Ministers of Aviation don't see the portfolio as a "career move", rather some where to be while waiting for a "real" job.
And to continue the non relevant conversation,
In the 70's the Liberal Party started the Young Libs and the Labour Party started the Young Labs, meanwhile the Country Party changed it's name.
None the less, I guess most Ministers of Aviation don't see the portfolio as a "career move", rather some where to be while waiting for a "real" job.
And to continue the non relevant conversation,
In the 70's the Liberal Party started the Young Libs and the Labour Party started the Young Labs, meanwhile the Country Party changed it's name.
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I would not be concerned for Gobbles obsession for pony and monkey poo, Blackhand, the longer you stay in Aviation, the more you realise that the Airlines run on bovine manure, not kero. Poor chap has probably been in the business for a while. At least he was spot on with Albernese's description. Now Holden has got a nice handout (a cool 275Mil) how long do you think its before QF get out the begging bowl? (For the carbon tax, you understand) anybody else think Holden is getting a "leg up" for the tax?
Excellent blackhand! Made my day!
Maybe Gobbles is German?
Anyhoo, I believe Peter Morris even went to the trouble of learning to fly, so he could get a better understanding of his portfolio. Oh, to have a minister keen to do his job, unlike the vast majority of anti-aviation duds we have had since!
Maybe Gobbles is German?
Anyhoo, I believe Peter Morris even went to the trouble of learning to fly, so he could get a better understanding of his portfolio. Oh, to have a minister keen to do his job, unlike the vast majority of anti-aviation duds we have had since!
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And who can forget Joh who opened Queensland up with the government aircraft of the day, a mighty Auster J1B. He flew it himself as a private pilot.
Imagine some of the incumbant softcocks doing that? I can remember Wayne Goss refusing to sit in the HS125 because Joh had sat there. He purchased 2 Westwinds to do the same job out of ALP principle.
And I can, and probably will, be corrected because I don't know for certain, there hasn't been an "aviation minister" in Aust for quiet some time. All have had joint portfolio's which means all haven't given 100% to the job.
Of the estimated 50% effort they did put in, only The National Party with roots in the bush did anything constructive. (I'm not sure about Truss though).
Imagine some of the incumbant softcocks doing that? I can remember Wayne Goss refusing to sit in the HS125 because Joh had sat there. He purchased 2 Westwinds to do the same job out of ALP principle.
And I can, and probably will, be corrected because I don't know for certain, there hasn't been an "aviation minister" in Aust for quiet some time. All have had joint portfolio's which means all haven't given 100% to the job.
Of the estimated 50% effort they did put in, only The National Party with roots in the bush did anything constructive. (I'm not sure about Truss though).
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Joh is dead.
But God bless his soul.
Make of that as you wish.
And please include the dysfunctional Labor mob of thugs who have effectively run and ruined the place since his departure. Saturday will tell how well they have prevailed. People from down south brought their politics with them.
With Joh, one knew where he stood in the scheme of things, such was his predictability. No such luxury with the ALP mate.
But God bless his soul.
Make of that as you wish.
And please include the dysfunctional Labor mob of thugs who have effectively run and ruined the place since his departure. Saturday will tell how well they have prevailed. People from down south brought their politics with them.
With Joh, one knew where he stood in the scheme of things, such was his predictability. No such luxury with the ALP mate.
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Albanese Others Breach Grant Rules
Says it all, I suppose soon we will get an announcement from the good minister for another study to determine a second Sydney airport site..
The Infrastructure Minister, Anthony Albanese, approved more than $31 million in grants for his own electorate or against his department's advice, in breach of government policy.
The federal Auditor-General, Ian McPhee, has named 11 ministers and parliamentary secretaries who defied a policy designed to eliminate pork-barrelling.
His statement, tabled in Parliament yesterday, also shows the Minister for Families, Housing, Community Services and Indigenous Affairs, Jenny Macklin, directly approved 14 grants, worth more than $730,000, when she should have asked the finance minister to oversee the decisions.
The former finance minister Lindsay Tanner established the grant-reporting rules in 2008 after accusations the Coalition rorted the now defunct Regional Partnerships Program.
Under Labor's policy, lower-house ministers can neither approve grants for projects in their own electorate, nor can they approve funds against their department's advice. Instead, these decisions are referred to the finance minister.
Mr McPhee's office audited about 800 grant-related briefs, prepared over 18 months in 2009 and 2010. It found ministers approved 33 projects in their own electorates without telling the finance minister, and 11 grants against the bureaucracy's advice.
However, Mr McPhee blamed in part the poor quality of public servants' briefs.
''The most significant issue raised by the audit report … was the fairly widespread shortcomings [of] briefings to ministerial decision-makers.''
Among Mr Albanese's decisions was approval of $18 million for a bridge over the Einasleigh River in north Queensland. Although his department advised against the grant, cabinet said the area was disaster-prone and the bridge would reduce the risk of a flood isolating the community.
Mr Albanese, the MP for Grayndler in NSW, was also warned against endorsing a $10 million grant for the Brisbane City Council, but he argued that the unspecified project had ''capacity to deliver significant economic stimulus''
Read more: Albanese Others Breach Grant Rules
The federal Auditor-General, Ian McPhee, has named 11 ministers and parliamentary secretaries who defied a policy designed to eliminate pork-barrelling.
His statement, tabled in Parliament yesterday, also shows the Minister for Families, Housing, Community Services and Indigenous Affairs, Jenny Macklin, directly approved 14 grants, worth more than $730,000, when she should have asked the finance minister to oversee the decisions.
The former finance minister Lindsay Tanner established the grant-reporting rules in 2008 after accusations the Coalition rorted the now defunct Regional Partnerships Program.
Under Labor's policy, lower-house ministers can neither approve grants for projects in their own electorate, nor can they approve funds against their department's advice. Instead, these decisions are referred to the finance minister.
Mr McPhee's office audited about 800 grant-related briefs, prepared over 18 months in 2009 and 2010. It found ministers approved 33 projects in their own electorates without telling the finance minister, and 11 grants against the bureaucracy's advice.
However, Mr McPhee blamed in part the poor quality of public servants' briefs.
''The most significant issue raised by the audit report … was the fairly widespread shortcomings [of] briefings to ministerial decision-makers.''
Among Mr Albanese's decisions was approval of $18 million for a bridge over the Einasleigh River in north Queensland. Although his department advised against the grant, cabinet said the area was disaster-prone and the bridge would reduce the risk of a flood isolating the community.
Mr Albanese, the MP for Grayndler in NSW, was also warned against endorsing a $10 million grant for the Brisbane City Council, but he argued that the unspecified project had ''capacity to deliver significant economic stimulus''
Read more: Albanese Others Breach Grant Rules
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Like the Mafia, you knew where you stood.
That luxury doesn't exist with the QLD ALP or for that matter the Federal ALP Government.
Talk to me after next Saturday evening.
That luxury doesn't exist with the QLD ALP or for that matter the Federal ALP Government.
Talk to me after next Saturday evening.
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Some poo, reflection, confession and a little more poo...
Interesting. I don't have a fetish for monkey poo or pony poo, not even donkey poo or bat guano. When I describe politicians as being some form of faecal matter I am being as kind as possible, you don't want me to really say what I think of them do you???
TG - Spot on. This old dog has done a few circuits. I will be cautious as i say this but sadly at various points in my career I did decide to quit getting my hands dirty and accept high level roles in a few areas of the aviation industry, and it is most certainly all sh#t. The money may be good but the lies, deceit, spin, corruption, contempt for frontline people, hatred for those working honestly has been too much to bear.
Kiddies, stick near the tin, work hard and look after your families and your mates. You may not retire with a government funded lifelong pension or with millions stashed in a series of Swiss accounts but you will sleep bloody well at
night and be proud of your aviation achievements as well as the highs and the lows. A much better experience for the soul than what these 'politicians', aviation bureaucrats (CASA type buffoons) and airline executives will retire with!
P.S Nice work 'Albo' - $31 million worth of pork barreling??
Blackhand, this is why I refer to these vermin as 'poo'!
More disgraceful use of taxpayer funds to 'legitimately' buy votes. Oldest trick in the book but an effective one. I wonder what's next? Perhaps he will once again 'remove some loopholes' and allow Dolly Parton and her titty bus on to the highways and tour AUS again??
TG - Spot on. This old dog has done a few circuits. I will be cautious as i say this but sadly at various points in my career I did decide to quit getting my hands dirty and accept high level roles in a few areas of the aviation industry, and it is most certainly all sh#t. The money may be good but the lies, deceit, spin, corruption, contempt for frontline people, hatred for those working honestly has been too much to bear.
Kiddies, stick near the tin, work hard and look after your families and your mates. You may not retire with a government funded lifelong pension or with millions stashed in a series of Swiss accounts but you will sleep bloody well at
night and be proud of your aviation achievements as well as the highs and the lows. A much better experience for the soul than what these 'politicians', aviation bureaucrats (CASA type buffoons) and airline executives will retire with!
P.S Nice work 'Albo' - $31 million worth of pork barreling??
Blackhand, this is why I refer to these vermin as 'poo'!
More disgraceful use of taxpayer funds to 'legitimately' buy votes. Oldest trick in the book but an effective one. I wonder what's next? Perhaps he will once again 'remove some loopholes' and allow Dolly Parton and her titty bus on to the highways and tour AUS again??
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And I can, and probably will, be corrected because I don't know for certain, there hasn't been an "aviation minister" in Aust for quiet some time. All have had joint portfolio's which means all haven't given 100% to the job.
Of the estimated 50% effort they did put in, only The National Party with roots in the bush did anything constructive. (I'm not sure about Truss though).
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I give you 3 of anderson's contributions to transport; being aviation, shipping and roads!
He gave obscenely excessive landing rights to o/s airlines (and so led to the situation we now have of unfettered foreign access to australia and the rush to the bottom).
He approved marine cabotage (and so stuffed up marine employment opportunities for australian seafarers AND australian shipping companies leading to foreign vessels dominating coastal trade).
He got a nice road built to his property at government expense.
Clearly he was a firetruckwit of the highest calibre.
SB
I give you 3 of anderson's contributions to transport; being aviation, shipping and roads!
He gave obscenely excessive landing rights to o/s airlines (and so led to the situation we now have of unfettered foreign access to australia and the rush to the bottom).
He approved marine cabotage (and so stuffed up marine employment opportunities for australian seafarers AND australian shipping companies leading to foreign vessels dominating coastal trade).
He got a nice road built to his property at government expense.
Clearly he was a firetruckwit of the highest calibre.
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The Greens never held a seat in Queensland. They had NO say in Parliament.
Their vote only decreased by 0.8%.
Opinion versus fact!
Home - Queensland Votes 2012 - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
..and their green puppet masters..
Their vote only decreased by 0.8%.
Opinion versus fact!
Home - Queensland Votes 2012 - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Blackhand:
There are certain portfolios that are all risk with no upside - Aviation is one of them.
There are no hospitals to open and babies to kiss.
There are no photo opportunities with large grant cheques being handed to smiling airport managers in front of cheering local residents.
There are no photo opportunities in front of newly delivered aircraft.
..All they get are endless complaints about aircraft noise and whining property developers who want the airfields.
Then there is the ever present risk of having to comment on, possibly even take responsibility for, a major accident.
Then of course there are the public servant types who regard postings away from Canberra - away from the Minister and nearer their supposed "Customers" - the aviation industry, as a demotion.
I'm concerned about GOBBLEs fetish with piles of poo, both monkey and pony.
None the less, I guess most Ministers of Aviation don't see the portfolio as a "career move", rather some where to be while waiting for a "real" job.
None the less, I guess most Ministers of Aviation don't see the portfolio as a "career move", rather some where to be while waiting for a "real" job.
There are no hospitals to open and babies to kiss.
There are no photo opportunities with large grant cheques being handed to smiling airport managers in front of cheering local residents.
There are no photo opportunities in front of newly delivered aircraft.
..All they get are endless complaints about aircraft noise and whining property developers who want the airfields.
Then there is the ever present risk of having to comment on, possibly even take responsibility for, a major accident.
Then of course there are the public servant types who regard postings away from Canberra - away from the Minister and nearer their supposed "Customers" - the aviation industry, as a demotion.