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And you sir have a selective memory.
History shows Mr Howard went to the nexr election declaring his intent to introduce a GST.
The conservatives then won that election.
BH
And you sir have a selective memory.
History shows Mr Howard went to the nexr election declaring his intent to introduce a GST.
The conservatives then won that election.
BH
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Thanks blackhand.
I don't believe it's a selective memory, but an ongoing campaign of spin that has been perpetuated and refined to the extent that they believe their own lies. History is being rewritten by the same means.
The "no carbon tax lie" will haunt this mob until they lie in their respective graves. (pinched from an Abbott outburst which he later was forced to apologise for).
It would appear Anzac Day is also under threat by upsetting somebody with an AK47 and a goat.
I don't believe it's a selective memory, but an ongoing campaign of spin that has been perpetuated and refined to the extent that they believe their own lies. History is being rewritten by the same means.
The "no carbon tax lie" will haunt this mob until they lie in their respective graves. (pinched from an Abbott outburst which he later was forced to apologise for).
It would appear Anzac Day is also under threat by upsetting somebody with an AK47 and a goat.
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Frank, I hope they have the brains to leave Anzac Day alone. The Australian public are known for their apathy about most things, but there are some things off bounds, Anzac Day is one of them, taking the Christianity out of Christmas (happy holidays) is another, regardless of your beliefs, surf life savers are another (as they found at Cronulla) and I suspect Qantas is another. Funny mob Australians, fairly laid back until you get up their nose, and then the base ball bats come out. As Labor found out in Queensland.
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As blackhand has already said,
Initially JH did say "never ever" but at least he came back and said, "I've changed my mind and I think this would be beneficial". He then put it to the people and I'm sure that's the part that most people conveniently leave out when using those lines from the Howard & Journalist interview.
As blackhand has already said,
Mr Howard went to the nexr election declaring his intent to introduce a GST.
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Sexism?
The Australian newspapers political reporter advised on Saturday that their polls showed men are prepared to forgive a male politician who lies. However men will never forgive a female politician who has broken a promise, lied etc! Sexism is well and truly alive in 2012. Not in the airline industry of course hey. Please revise the liberal govts policy regarding the work place. We are a group of intelligent individuals. Let's work together in our all our best interests.
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Orientating in time space.
There was the small matter of a Federal General Election which the red Carbon Witch didn't seem to see as relevant. And which you have conveniently forgotten.
One other thing, how can even the most ardent ALP supporters condone the dragged out and abused function of the investigation into Craig Thompson? Probably the only thing keeping this illigatimate government where it is.
If you think that's OK, you have as much credibility as the incumbants who can't be believed whatever they say. And don't deflect the spin to Joh, Abbott or Menies.
The people have spoken. Get used to it.
The government are a pathetic joke until your mob tidy up the floating turds.
In the big sewer of life, every turd finds it's own level. Depends where you float really.
There was the small matter of a Federal General Election which the red Carbon Witch didn't seem to see as relevant. And which you have conveniently forgotten.
One other thing, how can even the most ardent ALP supporters condone the dragged out and abused function of the investigation into Craig Thompson? Probably the only thing keeping this illigatimate government where it is.
If you think that's OK, you have as much credibility as the incumbants who can't be believed whatever they say. And don't deflect the spin to Joh, Abbott or Menies.
The people have spoken. Get used to it.
The government are a pathetic joke until your mob tidy up the floating turds.
In the big sewer of life, every turd finds it's own level. Depends where you float really.
Is this not exactly what PM Gillard has since said?
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Research by the Australian newspaper shows men will forgive a male politician who lies to them - but they will never forgive a female politician who lies to them . Sexism ? Sure why not. Let's protect the boys club currently in place in all levels of the workforce and society. Gosh , what were we ever thinking giving women and aborigines the right to vote hey. Let's all vote liberal at the next election . Their turning back the boats policy is so workable , as are their IR laws. The idea of a fair and equitable society is crazy communist talk. Support the 1 percent. They will benevolently throw their spare loose change at us , working class people don't understand these things anyway , hey.
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And while we are at it lets support Australia's rich and diverse geological wealth being rorted by a few while others que for surgery, and nurses have to fight for a safe work environment . Yeah , let's back the libs. The greens idea of global warming being bad for our grand kids is rubbish too . Scientists are silly, what would they know. And public transport is for losers. Who cares about the great barrier reef, the franklin river. Stuff the environment. Let's just make lots of money. And dont get me started on orangutangs, whale sharks , etc. caring is for dummies.
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You also forgot whales and patagonia toothfish...a call to arms for the patagonia toothfish; If they had arms and legs and were land breathing mammals with hairy armpits, why they could be our closest ancestor. But alas they are not; For they are only a fish. Damn those tasty fish.
And don't even get me started on those smartrse dolphins. One makes it big in a tv series and next thing you know they've all got an attitude.
And don't even get me started on those smart
rse dolphins. One makes it big in a tv series and next thing you know they've all got an attitude.
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So seriously to the mainly male audience here - is the Australians research correct ? A lot of men are on this thread . Will you grudgingly forgive a male politician who lies ( and let's be honest, we all know that all politicians tell lies ),but refuse to forgive a female politician who lies ? And how do you all feel about being faced with your own misogynist attitudes?
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OK, i'll bite..
LHLisa, do you have a reference/link to yer claim ?
Perhaps Bolt is looking at it...
IF THERE is a federal portent in Queensland Labor’s wipeout, perhaps it is this: unlike male leaders, who sometimes get a second chance (think John Howard and Peter Beattie), female leaders judged to have lied get punished the next time they face the polls.
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OK, i'll bite..
via LHLisa; The Australian newspapers political reporter advised on Saturday that their polls showed...
Perhaps Bolt is looking at it...
IF THERE is a federal portent in Queensland Labor’s wipeout, perhaps it is this: unlike male leaders, who sometimes get a second chance (think John Howard and Peter Beattie), female leaders judged to have lied get punished the next time they face the polls.
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And how do you all feel about being faced with your own misogynist attitudes?
But you did forget racist and homophobic
Land Rights for Gay Whales
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Pyscho, you just 'busted a myth' - The Carbon Queen, yes our very own language drooling Welsh ranga PM is a Patagonia fish !! Well done with your discovery and breaking this myth! Perhaps most of the Roo's management are 'sucker' fish? I know most of them are in fact very similar to those bottom
feeding fish that hang from the bottom or underside of the host fish feeding off all the ****e and parasites.
LHLisa, I can bust your myth also (so to speak) and I will try to keep it brief as Blackhand, my old sparring partner gets a little testy when I unload on politicians (although I did enjoy Blackhands last comment!), however ALL politicians, male OR female are untrustworthy, deceitful, lying, spin producing, trough dwelling, greedy self serving incompetent sacks of sh#t. I would not pi#s on neither if they were on fire nor would I stop to intervene if I saw one being beaten about the head with a crowbar by a mob of angry citizens sick of their excessive wealth milked at the expense of the taxpayer.
feeding fish that hang from the bottom or underside of the host fish feeding off all the ****e and parasites.
LHLisa, I can bust your myth also (so to speak) and I will try to keep it brief as Blackhand, my old sparring partner gets a little testy when I unload on politicians (although I did enjoy Blackhands last comment!), however ALL politicians, male OR female are untrustworthy, deceitful, lying, spin producing, trough dwelling, greedy self serving incompetent sacks of sh#t. I would not pi#s on neither if they were on fire nor would I stop to intervene if I saw one being beaten about the head with a crowbar by a mob of angry citizens sick of their excessive wealth milked at the expense of the taxpayer.
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Probably the only thing keeping this illigatimate(sic) government where it is.
greedy self serving incompetent sacks of sh#t.
which the red Carbon Witch didn't seem to see as relevant
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What I remain resolutely amazed at is the number of Professional Pilots who think they will be better off under a Liberal IR regime.
But being a professional postie bike mechanic, I work under an individual contract that I negotiated.
The difference between the collective award and my pay rate is about 35$ an hour.
I know what I would rather have.
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How much of the R&D budget was spent "proving the science" that is now "in"? How much of this was diverted away from medical research and how much does Tim Flannery Robert Kingsford and Co. get paid to run Qango's and take water from farmers?
As for hospitals and waiting lists, they are urgent, the Planet has been around a while and will probably remain as it is for the next thousand years or so. That's why Tim bought a seaside home.
Why is money needed for urgent matters being squandered on non urgent matters?
Oh, and to keep the topic on track, what has Albanese done to warrant his continuation as a Minister for Transport/ Aviation.
As for hospitals and waiting lists, they are urgent, the Planet has been around a while and will probably remain as it is for the next thousand years or so. That's why Tim bought a seaside home.
Why is money needed for urgent matters being squandered on non urgent matters?
Oh, and to keep the topic on track, what has Albanese done to warrant his continuation as a Minister for Transport/ Aviation.
ALL politicians, male OR female are untrustworthy, deceitful, lying, spin producing, trough dwelling, greedy self serving incompetent sacks of sh#t. I would not pi#s on neither if they were on fire nor would I stop to intervene if I saw one being beaten about the head with a crowbar by a mob of angry citizens sick of their excessive wealth milked at the expense of the taxpayer.
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I sense a lot of love in the room tonight!
Seriously, a lot of this is hateful rhetoric. I don't even think some of the commentators here even understand what they are saying, or why they are saying it.
Malcom Fraser sums it up pretty well:
http://m.smh.com.au/national/politicians-are-taking-us-backwards-warns-fraser-20120326-1vtfk.html
On the mining tax - every country has a mining tax. Most of them are a lot higher than what is being proposed here. The theory is that the resources belong to all Australians - not the privileged few. So the wealth from those natural resources should benefit all the nation be it investing in education, infrastructure, alternative energies for when the resource is depleted etc. Common sense and equitable surely? It is not a great big new tax - it has existed for ober 25 years. The liberals have supported it. The mining industry has supported it.
The argument being made is megaphone rhetoric.
Once again - off topic.
Seriously, a lot of this is hateful rhetoric. I don't even think some of the commentators here even understand what they are saying, or why they are saying it.
Malcom Fraser sums it up pretty well:
http://m.smh.com.au/national/politicians-are-taking-us-backwards-warns-fraser-20120326-1vtfk.html
On the mining tax - every country has a mining tax. Most of them are a lot higher than what is being proposed here. The theory is that the resources belong to all Australians - not the privileged few. So the wealth from those natural resources should benefit all the nation be it investing in education, infrastructure, alternative energies for when the resource is depleted etc. Common sense and equitable surely? It is not a great big new tax - it has existed for ober 25 years. The liberals have supported it. The mining industry has supported it.
The argument being made is megaphone rhetoric.
Once again - off topic.
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The minerals belong to The States, not the Commonwealth. That is a Constitutional matter. You would think a Lawyer/ Prime Minister would know this.
There is a High Court challenge towards clarification of this under way.
The results will determine whether or not some Socialist redistribution of wealth is valid or not. I guess the taxpayer will foot the bill for costs if it goes against Gillard and Co.
There is a High Court challenge towards clarification of this under way.
The results will determine whether or not some Socialist redistribution of wealth is valid or not. I guess the taxpayer will foot the bill for costs if it goes against Gillard and Co.
