I would not be concerned for Gobbles obsession for pony and monkey poo, Blackhand, the longer you stay in Aviation, the more you realise that the Airlines run on bovine manure, not kero. Poor chap has probably been in the business for a while. At least he was spot on with Albernese's description. Now Holden has got a nice handout (a cool 275Mil) how long do you think its before QF get out the begging bowl? (For the carbon tax, you understand) anybody else think Holden is getting a "leg up" for the tax?