New 'Aviation Minister' after Monday?
mcgrath50, how did yer work that out ?
I'm sure a lot of you who are on social networks would have seen this image. Please tell me what, not being married (and where did the affairs bit come from), not having children, having no mortgage (I believe she rented her Melbourne property), being an atheist have to do with being PM?
Everyone forgets that Tony Abbott tried first to NEGOTIATE (not bribe) the greens and independents, he failed, Julia was successful. She is an elected PM, just as John Howard, Kevin Rudd and every other PM dating back to 1901 (and the establishment of the Westminster System as we know it in the UK). You elect a representative, who forms a block, almost always along party lines, to get things voted in such as laws and who is PM.
And the last comment;
Boyfriend does her hair every morning
Don't even get me started.
These points ruin what is otherwise a fair analysis, BER was a disaster, the debt is ridiculous and assuming these documented links to the communist party are true, and they were more than just a 'uni phase' or the like, then that would also worry me.
There are plenty of ways to play the (wo)man on this, not the ball.
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(and where did the affairs bit come from)
This has been doing the email forwards for a while now. I don't know the source but have seen it a few times around the social network sites way before she became Prime Minister.
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Everyone forgets that Tony Abbott tried first to NEGOTIATE (not bribe) the greens and independents, he failed, Julia was successful.
(Take the comment either way. Both are applicable.)
Noticed the Minister in his I love KRudd speech talked about "fighting Tories". That is the problem with any aviation reform. He thinks all pilots are silvertails and "Tories" so he is not interested in doing anything for the "privileged clarshes".
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When I feel like tormenting myself, I watch a bit of Parliament. Yesterday it reached about as low as it can get. Gillard screeching at Julie Bishop, when I thought Bishops question was reasonable. Why put in Carr (who did a snow job on NSW) for the FM job, when you have already experienced people? The answer was worthy of two schoolgirls arguing at a bus stop. What happened to the dignity of the office, what happened to the style of Keating (even if it was vitriolic) and the dignity of Howard. I cannot bring myself to mention the other one . Xenophon is the only one who gives a ratz about what is happening in Aviation, what a shame he is a Senator, and not in the lower house, but then again there is no way he would work for this mob.
After watching the last three speakers of the house, I must say it is the only political job I would ever aspire too. What a bunch of straight shooters and legends. Mr. Speakers for PM! 
The Prime Minister WILL resume her seat
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Here we go again - Mr Albanese has ruled out Badgerys Creek
Unlikely to change ... federal transport Minister has said he will not increase the 80 flights per hour cap at Sydney Airport. Photo: Robert Pearce
THE number of flights through Sydney Airport each hour should increase and governments should immediately start planning for a second site, preferably at Badgerys Creek, a study to be released today will recommend.
But the study will recommend retaining the 11pm to 6am curfew on flights to and from Mascot, and continuing to allow flights from regional NSW to land and take off from Sydney's main airport.
The federal Transport Minister, Anthony Albanese, has said he would not increase the 80 flights an hour cap at Sydney Airport. But the independent report, which he commissioned in 2009, will argue that the cap, a constraint on the growth of Sydney Airport in 1997, needs to be lifted within the next few years.
That would mean a higher concentration of flights over inner west suburbs and Mr Albanese's electorate of Grayndler.
Accommodating more than 80 flights an hour at Sydney would demand more use of the airport's parallel runways, and less traffic on the east-west runway, creating more noise in the suburbs to the north and south of the airport.
Mr Albanese has ruled out Badgerys Creek, which has been recommended as a second airport site since 1979. But the report will say it remains the clear best option for a secondary airport.
Badgerys Creek is relatively close to the M7 and M4. The south-west rail link, due to be completed in 2016, could also be extended close to Badgerys Creek.
But over the past decade there has also been much residential development in the region, giving rise to new concerns about aircraft noise.
The study's recommendations, if implemented, would cement Kingsford Smith Airport at Mascot as Sydney's main gateway. Its parallel runways are used in the peak morning period. Lifting the cap would mean they would be used more often. ''This means almost constant aircraft noise for his constituents,'' one industry source said of Mr Albanese.
The Premier, Barry O'Farrell, has already said he would not support a second airport in the Sydney basin. However, the panel that wrote the report included the director-general of Transport for NSW, Les Wielinga.
Also on the panel are the secretary of Mr Albanese's department, Mike Mrdak, the former Liberal minister Warwick Smith, the former tourism lobbyist Chris Brown, the aviation expert Warren Mundy and the chief executive of the Business Council of Australia, Jennifer Westacott.
Another industry source said yesterday that if the state and federal governments failed to act on the report, or said they preferred high-speed rail to a second airport, they were in denial.
Mr Albanese has previously released analysis from the report showing the failure to build a second airport would cost NSW $35 billion a year and 70,000 jobs by 2060.
It had been speculated that the report would recommend lifting the curfew and cutting the slots for regional flights into Mascot. But these will not be touched.
Ernst Krolke, the chief executive of Airport Co-ordination Australia, which manages the slots at Sydney Airport, said there was still some capacity under the 80 flights an hour cap. ''The only period is between 7 and 8 o'clock in the morning, and we have slots available in the 6 o'clock hour that can be taken up by international flights.'
Read more: More flights but curfew to remain
THE number of flights through Sydney Airport each hour should increase and governments should immediately start planning for a second site, preferably at Badgerys Creek, a study to be released today will recommend.
But the study will recommend retaining the 11pm to 6am curfew on flights to and from Mascot, and continuing to allow flights from regional NSW to land and take off from Sydney's main airport.
The federal Transport Minister, Anthony Albanese, has said he would not increase the 80 flights an hour cap at Sydney Airport. But the independent report, which he commissioned in 2009, will argue that the cap, a constraint on the growth of Sydney Airport in 1997, needs to be lifted within the next few years.
That would mean a higher concentration of flights over inner west suburbs and Mr Albanese's electorate of Grayndler.
Accommodating more than 80 flights an hour at Sydney would demand more use of the airport's parallel runways, and less traffic on the east-west runway, creating more noise in the suburbs to the north and south of the airport.
Mr Albanese has ruled out Badgerys Creek, which has been recommended as a second airport site since 1979. But the report will say it remains the clear best option for a secondary airport.
Badgerys Creek is relatively close to the M7 and M4. The south-west rail link, due to be completed in 2016, could also be extended close to Badgerys Creek.
But over the past decade there has also been much residential development in the region, giving rise to new concerns about aircraft noise.
The study's recommendations, if implemented, would cement Kingsford Smith Airport at Mascot as Sydney's main gateway. Its parallel runways are used in the peak morning period. Lifting the cap would mean they would be used more often. ''This means almost constant aircraft noise for his constituents,'' one industry source said of Mr Albanese.
The Premier, Barry O'Farrell, has already said he would not support a second airport in the Sydney basin. However, the panel that wrote the report included the director-general of Transport for NSW, Les Wielinga.
Also on the panel are the secretary of Mr Albanese's department, Mike Mrdak, the former Liberal minister Warwick Smith, the former tourism lobbyist Chris Brown, the aviation expert Warren Mundy and the chief executive of the Business Council of Australia, Jennifer Westacott.
Another industry source said yesterday that if the state and federal governments failed to act on the report, or said they preferred high-speed rail to a second airport, they were in denial.
Mr Albanese has previously released analysis from the report showing the failure to build a second airport would cost NSW $35 billion a year and 70,000 jobs by 2060.
It had been speculated that the report would recommend lifting the curfew and cutting the slots for regional flights into Mascot. But these will not be touched.
Ernst Krolke, the chief executive of Airport Co-ordination Australia, which manages the slots at Sydney Airport, said there was still some capacity under the 80 flights an hour cap. ''The only period is between 7 and 8 o'clock in the morning, and we have slots available in the 6 o'clock hour that can be taken up by international flights.'
Read more: More flights but curfew to remain
A British Airways plane filled with England cricketers leaves Sydney Kingsford-Smith Airport earlier this year.
Julia Gillard’s government is set to nominate 10 potential sites for a second Sydney airport, according to a report in today's "The Sydney Morning Herald."
The news comes in the wake of reports damning major airports across Australia as inadequate.
Second Sydney airport in pipeline after poor global ranking | CNNGo.com
and why he supported Rudd again he is not too popular in his seat and is a real chance to be voted out next election anyway, proof here.... on another small issue. Julia may just surprise everyone and drop Albo as he is past the use by date..
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i have always taught my kids, and now their kids.....
"How do ya know when a politician is telling lies....??"
"When ya see their lips moving..."
Really is SAD though....isn't it???????????????
No cheers
"How do ya know when a politician is telling lies....??"
"When ya see their lips moving..."
Really is SAD though....isn't it???????????????
No cheers
Why on earth do these idiots commission reports, whose recommendations they have never intended to implement?
It just goes to prove ... once again ... that their intentions remain, in order:
It just goes to prove ... once again ... that their intentions remain, in order:
- To retain their seat
- To treat Australians like fools
- To create as much white noise as possible
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Why on earth do these idiots commission reports
Look at all the enquiries in Victoria under the Labour Government which never produced an outcome but cost the taxpayer a fortune.
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The 'New Cabinet' announced this morning.....
Suprise suprise.....Bob Carr = new Foreign Minister...will 'our AF1' get as much use as with 'wots-his name'....
Albanese not specifically mentioned in that 'news' release, so I guess he remains 'as is'...
Cheers
Suprise suprise.....Bob Carr = new Foreign Minister...will 'our AF1' get as much use as with 'wots-his name'....
Albanese not specifically mentioned in that 'news' release, so I guess he remains 'as is'...
Cheers
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Well. That's lost the NSW vote as well as the QLD vote.
Labor were chucked out at the NSW State elections for gross incompetence, (read that as Carr and his crony's), and Gillard takes the looser on in her Cabinet. About seals her fate.
Time to hibernate and wake up after it's all over. Although, what she stuffs up next week is probably worth waiting for.
EDIT to ask a question.
Section 15 of the Constitution provides that a casual vacancy of a State senator shall be filled by the State Parliament.
The question is, (State Parliament is governed at this point in time by the Liberal/ Nation Party's), why is somebody unelected and fundamentally proportionally disgraced by the last State Ballot after their performance, "appointed" by the State Opposition, to a "upper house" Senate seat plus hold a Ministerial position on the front bench of the "Lower House"? I think I know the answer, but would like someone to explain the reason we get Carr for a six year stint at blocking Lower House Bills without a vote.
Oh! and given the keys to the BBJ.
Gillard is now a pathological liar in my view.
Can I be so bold as to suggest this seals the fate of The Senate with a mandatory double dissolution of Parliament by Abbott if he gets a one By-election win.
Another thing.
Paul Keating, (God bless his little Labor soul), and I are in agreement.
The Senate is an "unrepresentative swill". (I think that's what he said).
Labor were chucked out at the NSW State elections for gross incompetence, (read that as Carr and his crony's), and Gillard takes the looser on in her Cabinet. About seals her fate.
Time to hibernate and wake up after it's all over. Although, what she stuffs up next week is probably worth waiting for.
EDIT to ask a question.
Section 15 of the Constitution provides that a casual vacancy of a State senator shall be filled by the State Parliament.
The question is, (State Parliament is governed at this point in time by the Liberal/ Nation Party's), why is somebody unelected and fundamentally proportionally disgraced by the last State Ballot after their performance, "appointed" by the State Opposition, to a "upper house" Senate seat plus hold a Ministerial position on the front bench of the "Lower House"? I think I know the answer, but would like someone to explain the reason we get Carr for a six year stint at blocking Lower House Bills without a vote.
Oh! and given the keys to the BBJ.
Gillard is now a pathological liar in my view.
Can I be so bold as to suggest this seals the fate of The Senate with a mandatory double dissolution of Parliament by Abbott if he gets a one By-election win.
Another thing.
Paul Keating, (God bless his little Labor soul), and I are in agreement.
The Senate is an "unrepresentative swill". (I think that's what he said).
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The conga line continues
The 'New Cabinet' announced this morning.....
Suprise suprise.....Bob Carr = new Foreign Minister...will 'our AF1' get as much use as with 'wots-his name'....
Albanese not specifically mentioned in that 'news' release, so I guess he remains 'as is'...
Cheers
Suprise suprise.....Bob Carr = new Foreign Minister...will 'our AF1' get as much use as with 'wots-his name'....
Albanese not specifically mentioned in that 'news' release, so I guess he remains 'as is'...
Cheers
How many more cabinet reshuffles will we get before the next election... they have only been there for 18 months...
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Ahhh, Paul Keating. Love him or hate him, he called a spade a spade. We need more of that....
porch monkey, thanks for the kind words.... I believe in the cause, ie; keeping the Aussie "know how" in jobs with our aviation industry, it sickens me to see what corporate Australia are getting away with (off-shoring) whilst Australia's Politicians, Federal & State squabble amongst themselves.
I guess I am wasting my time in the big scheme of things, but it helps me to keep thinking, I am giving it my best shot by not giving up... you guys on here deserve the support.
I have never forgotten how the media, government and big business railroaded the pilots in the 89 dispute, the lies! These days we have the internet, we can't match the big business spin budgets but hell this is not the reason to give up... All of you on here have a lot to be proud of with the wonderful aviation culture instilled in this industry, the long safety record speaks for itself...
The "bean counter" culture in management (vicious cost cutting) is more than ever, threatening all the good work that took generations to build up...
That is why I fight on....
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The question is, (State Parliament is governed at this point in time by the Liberal/ Nation Party's), why is somebody unelected and fundamentally proportionally disgraced by the last State Ballot after their performance, "appointed" by the State Opposition, to a "upper house" Senate seat plus hold a Ministerial position on the front bench of the "Lower House"?
Bob Carr still needs to be appointed by the NSW Government, but that would be a mere formality.
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I thought he already had been Tailwind. I mean the bloke has bought his first FF ticket already, to across the pond. The question is, is he about to do a Gorton? The fact is, he looked Prime Ministerial the other day, she looked like his secretary. And she thought she had problems with Rudd, i think she has just bought herself a whole new lot of problems. Carr was a bit of a disaster in NSW, his govt, was awash with corruption, jailings and other little niceties, but then again that might make him suitable for Federal Labor.
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Tailwheel's description is 99.9% correct. Just to add the final bit: there was a referendum in 1977, two years after the tumultuous events of 1975, and one of the questions addressed this matter of casual vacancies in the Senate and political allegiance. Prior to the referendum it was only traditional, not mandatory, that a replacement be of the same political party. Hence the 1975 events. The question put at the 1977 referendum proposed that it be mandatory for replacements to be of the same party. The question was passed in the affirmative so, yes, it is mandatory that the NSW State Parliament chooses an ALP replacement for Senator Arbib. Both lower and upper houses choose and vote.
I find it quite amusing and incredulous that the NSW Lib/Nat Coalition Govt is required to choose an ALP man to send to Canberra as Foreign Minister! You would think that they wouldn't necessarily simply endorse the PM's choice, or the choice of the "faceless men of Sussex St". You'd think they'd choose someone incompetent, with no real qualifications, someone destabilising, someone with a big ego, with leadership ambitions of his own perhaps, someone who might cause further problems for Gillard and the Govt.
WAIT A MINUTE.....
I find it quite amusing and incredulous that the NSW Lib/Nat Coalition Govt is required to choose an ALP man to send to Canberra as Foreign Minister! You would think that they wouldn't necessarily simply endorse the PM's choice, or the choice of the "faceless men of Sussex St". You'd think they'd choose someone incompetent, with no real qualifications, someone destabilising, someone with a big ego, with leadership ambitions of his own perhaps, someone who might cause further problems for Gillard and the Govt.
WAIT A MINUTE.....
It's been done before -
On 30 June 1975, Queensland ALP Senator Bertie Milliner died suddenly. The
Labor Party nominated Colston to fill the casual vacancy in the Senate. The Constitution provides that a Senate casual vacancy is filled by a person chosen by the relevant state parliament. Although it did not become a constitutional requirement until 1977, it had been long-standing convention that the state parliament choose a person nominated by the departing Senator's party. However, the Premier of Queensland, Joh Bjelke-Petersen, claimed that Colston was a "dangerous socialist" and refused to appoint him. Officially though, Bjelke-Petersen expressed doubts over Colston's integrity and instead appointed Albert Field, who was a member of the Labor Party but was staunchly opposed to the policies of the Gough Whitlam Labor government.[2]
The ALP challenged Field's appointment in the High Court, and he was on leave from the Senate almost from the day of his appointment. This gave the Coalition a greater advantage, and it was therefore a crucial event in the events leading up to the dismissal of the Whitlam government.
The ALP challenged Field's appointment in the High Court, and he was on leave from the Senate almost from the day of his appointment. This gave the Coalition a greater advantage, and it was therefore a crucial event in the events leading up to the dismissal of the Whitlam government.
