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Old 24th Mar 2012, 21:34
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Must be tough

Sunfish - Then there is the ever present risk of having to comment on, possibly even take responsibility for, a major accident.
Wikipedia. Senate inquiry
As a result of intense lobbying by the father of one of the victims, Constable Sally Urquhart, and others, the Australian Senate's Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport Committee resolved to conduct an inquiry into the Civil Aviation Safety Authority, its operations and other matters.

The Inquiry was convened on 2–3 July 2008 at Parliament House, Canberra. As well as Mr Shane Urquhart's submission, there were sixty others which were considered by the Inquiry. The vast majority of the submissions were highly critical of most aspects of CASA's operations.

Several people and organisations, including Mr Urquhart, supported their submissions in person at the Inquiry. In September 2008, the Committee Chair, Senator Glenn Sterle, released the report of the inquiry to the Transport Minister Mr Anthony Albanese and the public.

The recommendations from the report are:
1. That the Australian Government strengthens CASA's governance framework and administrative capability by:
a. introducing a small board of up to five members to provide enhanced oversight and strategic direction for CASA; and
b. undertaking a review of CASA's funding arrangements to ensure CASA is equipped to deal with new regulatory challenges.

2. In accordance with the findings of the Hawke Taskforce, that CASA's Regulatory Reform Program be brought to a conclusion as quickly as possible to provide certainty to industry and to ensure CASA and industry are ready to address future safety challenges.

3.That the Australian National Audit Office audit CASA's implementation and administration of its Safety Management Systems approach.
Yup - must be tough getting to sleep at night, my heart bleeds for the poor misunderstood little sausage.

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Old 24th Mar 2012, 23:27
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The Greens never held a seat in Queensland. They had NO say in Parliament.
Their vote only decreased by 0.8%.
Many moons ago when i were a card carrying member of the QLD Wilderness Society ah would sit there in meetings (in a union owned building i believe) listening to managment telling us how they dictated to the govmint - and they often did... votes yer see..


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Old 24th Mar 2012, 23:53
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Many moons ago when i were a card carrying member of the QLD Wilderness Society ah would sit there in meetings (in a union owned building i believe) listening to managment telling us how they dictated to the govmint - and they often did... votes yer see..
So this was a lot different to when that famous bastion of criminality Joh was in power - didn't he dictate that he was the Government and told the police commissioner what to do (he often did).
He didn't understand the "Separation of Powers"
votes yer see
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 00:09
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Mr Mach- So this was a lot different to when that famous bastion of criminality Joh was in power - didn't he dictate that he was the Government and told the police commissioner what to do (he often did).
One thing is certain, Joh would have the balls, brains and enough concern for Qld's well being to prevent the travesty of the LHR inquiry fiasco. Hope the new mob have one quarter his 'moxy'; right or wrong Joh cared about Qld and aviation. Maybe not in that order but, you get my drift.

Be a great time and place to start with a new broom. Then we may just get an answer to a pagan's prayer.
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So this was a lot different to when that famous bastion of criminality Joh was in power - didn't he dictate that he was the Government and told the police commissioner what to do (he often did).
He didn't understand the "Separation of Powers"
Bit of mystry to me what yer on about MR MACH..


I offered some clarifycation about me earlier opinion comment - "...green puppet masters" and now yer off about Joh B. ?


MR MACH, if yer trying to tye Joh B to Newman think again -

"KATTER'S Australia Party leader Bob Katter yesterday angrily accused Campbell Newman of "spitting on the grave" of Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen and insulting Lady Flo..."

Bob Katter claims LNP 's Campbell Newman insulted Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen | Latest Queensland state election 2012 coverage from The Courier-Mail | The Courier-Mail






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Old 25th Mar 2012, 02:23
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One thing Joh did know was daylight saving was all bollocks.

Reckoned the sun shone out of his arsehole, and he wasn't getting up an hour early for anybody.

About time for another referundum I reckon. That, apart from being a waste of money should give the city folk something to grumble about.

Yes, It's all about "BOLLOCKS".
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 03:47
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Right, thats one mess nicely cleaned up, and now for the big one. This ship has had her port wing dipped long enough, its creating drag, straight and level is the go, easier on the pax. No more flap, kick her in the guts and lets get going, its time to change Skippers, in fact the whole crew, out of hours. (and ideas). (hope this passes muster Tailwind)!
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 05:36
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While the welded on Labor folk are busy transferring responsibility to Joh, Abbott, and anyone else they can think of, one should think that one pathetic persons dissapointment is an all aviators dream. The possibilities are endless and one should remember the Qld Police have a vested interest in certain miscarriages of justice and perverted outcomes.

The party starts now. beaten, but not defeated!
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T.G., just wondering what specific policies of the 'starboard wing' are going to improve the lot of working pilots?
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One thing is certain, Joh would have the balls, brains and enough concern for Qld's well being to prevent the travesty of the LHR inquiry fiasco.
Yep the LHR accident is the biggest example of government endorsed aviation homicide in Oz this century (so far). The LNP QLD government would do well to put pressure on the QLD coroner to reopen that inquest!!??

The knock on effect to their Canberra colleagues could be twofold (watch this space)!
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Hey Albo, wakey wakey hand off snakey...

The message has been bellowed out loud and clear in Queensland - Labor is finished! As much as I cannot stomach that festoon Abbott, Labor has become an even more nauseating pack of nupty's.
Get your C.V prepared Albo, Labor is done and dusted and so are you,
in fact Labor is on equal standing with your ability as being Minister for Mascot - Camel poo.
It will be interesting to see who the Libs actually put in to the position of infrastructure minister when they win next federal election?
Who knows, maybe Mad Dog Katters party will win enough seats to put it in power? I know, it won't happen, but I would like to see Bob win the next fed election and take on the role of aviation minister himself!!
But poor old Albo, kruddys mate. What's a minister with bad teeth and hair to do? It seems one testicle lays with Kruddy while the other lays with The Carbon Queen!

What hope does aviation have, seriously? Albo, Brown, Katter, maybe Pauline Hanson? Abandon ship abandon ship, Australian aviation is sinking faster than the Titanic.
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Interesting question Headmaster. Probably for a start the "starboard wing" is far more likely to recognise Pilots as not "overpaid bus drivers" (you will excuse me if I sound a little bitter, your old bodgie leader had some unpleasant habits) but professional people, this hopefully would lead to negotiations with people with a reasonable IQ and less preoccupied with the notion that all pilots are born on the right side of the track, went to private schools, and mummy and daddy just popped down to the bank and got the flying training money out of the petty cash, and great uncle Edgar was a friend of the chief pilot so little Nigel was accepted of course. (Once more you will have to excuse me, being a 89er and as your Treasurer at the time hated our collective guts, this was a colorful description as only he could describe us) not true of course, I don't have a Uncle Edgar, and I lived in a car for the first two years of my flying job, but you get my gist. Something tells me Headmaster, the majority of pilots are just going to be happier if grownups are running the show.
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 12:36
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Peter Reith: Speech to Victorian IR Society

Yep, sure sounds like the libs would be just oozing pilot friendly IR policies.
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Interesting comments TG, however my question remains unanswered
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just wondering what specific policies of the 'starboard wing' are going to improve the lot of working pilots?
headmaster, I didn't realise the 'starboard wing' had policies.
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Queensland politics will always be a basket case - it is the only State not to have a bicameral legislature. Consequently the excesses of legislation are not inhibited/modified by a uppper house.
The parties from both political sides start out by using platitudes: "We are humbled - represent all voters etc as they have a huge majority.

By the time of their third re-election they become lazy and bereft of ideas.

They then start taking double strength hubris pills with their wheaties which further enchances their self aggrandizement. They can do no wrong!
The voters become disillusioned and vote them into oblivion. The losers then rejuvenate and the whole process starts again.

It happened with Joh - it has just happened with the labor party.

Watch this space for the next episode in about 10-15 years time.
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Then Headmaster, I cannot help you.
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 22:08
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There was only one policy in this QLD election, same as in 96 Federal: We are not Labor. The enemy was incumbency. It always is. When was the last time we had any true policy debate on real issues? When was the last time any government in Australia was voted IN on policy?

It is partisan negative rhetoric - from all sides. Assisted by a media who only cares about reporting it as a personal point scoring exercise or zooming on some faux scandal. Reality TV formula applied to the democratic process.

The questions about real policy are drowned out by the white noise of slogans, with the nodding heads in frame to emphasise their hollowness.

This is why guys like Turnbull get traction - they actually debate outside of the talking points. It is a real pity they probably wont need him as leader to win. Drovers Dog anyone?
 
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When was the last time any government in Australia was voted IN on policy?
I know one that was voted in on a policy not to introduce a carbon tax.

Does that count?
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Squeeze me????
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