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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:05
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I can't understand why Perth flights are apparently being cancelled when the lockout doesn't occur until Monday morning.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:07
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simon,

They don't want someone doing their nut and buying the farm
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:08
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Pride cometh before a fall !!!!!!!!!!
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:08
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Perth? It is currently over run with Canberra-types due to CHOGM. Rather amused that the flights have shut down - I could lend them my bicycle to go home with. Take some water . . . . . .
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Heheh, Alan Joyce is copping an earful on T-witter.

https://twitter.com/#!/alanjoyce/sta...77194041638912

Too bad it's a different guy... poor bloke.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:09
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Well done Qantas Board - you've just made the biggest mistake in its 90 year history!!..Talk about shooting yourself in both feet!!..Running to the Government because you can't talk to unions - grow some backbone!!!!..
Lets face it folks, this fight is between the union bashing Chairman against 35000 loyal employees.AJ is the puppet..

My congats to the 1.5 billion shareholders who voted for these Meglomaniacs in yesterdays AGM..Well done Institutional Investor Fund Managers..

To pull this stunt just after the AGM - Nice move LC and Co.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:09
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Parabellum, seriously, your trying to pick a religious fight now?
No, not at all. Time to get real. QANTAS is a very small airline with considerable influence within Australia, that is Australia, with a population less than the metropolitan area of Los Angeles.

In the great big scheme of things this is a storm in a tea cup.
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Storm in a middy -we don't drink tea.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:15
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Flights have been grounded today as a precautionary measure due to the lockout announcement commencing on Monday.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:18
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Mach082, thanks but I don't understand why the lockout is from Monday, yet flights are obviously (confirmed, people are being virtually being kicked off flights this afternoon) being cancelled now. Why not say it's being grounded now? This is absolutely bizarre.

Okay, thanks QueenBzzzz. I get it now. People will be even more pissed now.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:18
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"The government should buyback Qantas"....now there's an idea.

And perhaps at the same time buy back everything else that belongs to us that were sold off by previous governments to create budget surplus.

Australia has been raped pillaged and destroyed by big business and is mired in a lack of infrastructure 50 years behind its population.

Too much of that which should belong to the people is held for profit making of a few.

When you buy back Qantas, buy back the public airports, the airways, the roads, essential utilities and transport systems, run them for the people, not for profit.

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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:19
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Jetstar, Qantaslink, Atlas etc to continue normal operations.....
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:19
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Well, now we know why Qantas cancelled their participation in the conciliation hearings due about now. When did they cancel, ten days or so ago was it?
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:22
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They are using the terms "grounded" and "locked out" as two totally different terms. They need to ground ASAP due to emotional response. Will this buy them more time with the government intervention? Sounds like they knew an intervention was imminent when making this decision. Sorry, just relaying info from Crew Voice....
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:24
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History repeats itself this is a re run of the Robe lockout 1986 and the outcome of that was not pretty for the unions.

Certainly now the industrial laws are somewhat different , but in the end the shareholders will win if they hold their nerve.

The courts must endorse "management has the right to manage" as a fundamental legal principle.

This dispute will come down to who has the deepest pockets.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:24
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Mach082, thanks but I don't understand why the lockout is from Monday, yet flights are obviously (confirmed, people are being virtually being kicked off flights this afternoon) being cancelled now. Why not say it's being grounded now? This is absolutely bizarre.
It's because the management of the company believe that Qantas staff, although entrusted with multi hundred million dollar machines and thousands of lives daily, they can't be trusted to act professionally when they know they will be locked out.

The management have to protect the assets in case they need to be liquidated - or so their theory would seem to go.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:25
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Richard Woodwood is presenting himself very, very well on ABC News 24. If nothing else, this is getting some people air time that should have had it weeks ago.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:28
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Now who is the kamikaze, Alan?

Ter be sure, ter be sure...
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:28
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How About The AOC

If the CP, Fleet Mgrs etc locked out, not able to do their job, what price CASA would suspend the AOC? That would get eveybody's attention!!
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:29
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Joyce is fiddling while QANTAS and its workers (all its workers if he pursues this course), not to mention the passengers, burn. Like other dictators before him, his delusions delude him into blaming employees for "trashing the brand".

Stick together and call his bluff people!
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