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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:00
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On behalf of Mr Borghetti, thank you Mr Joyce. Played into this beautifully. Desperate act from a desperate management. You wouldn't of pulled this act on a Monday morning in December....Now look at what the public think of management...IDIOTS!
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:00
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Why announce this Saturday and not Friday,
bypass the ASX Announcement needed till Monday and have Julia run to his side Sunday.. and get those bad unions that are actually not on strike.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:01
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Well that just made me hurry up and book my VB flights back to NZ next week!
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:04
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Never thought I'd see the day! Unfortunatually those staff thinking that the Australian public will care about you. You are wrong, it will only be about their travel plans.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:04
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What are the companys options? If and how can Jetstar et al come to the rescue? Can anyone from across the ditch fly in Oz?? Is there any possible plan B for Joyce??
Seems like a very extreme decision, surely Qantas have something up their sleeves??
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:04
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this not a time to be a smart Assss. pull your head in
Not being a smart ass, apologies if it came over that way

Fact is those were the two options available to QF.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:07
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Just saw Joyce say that employees locked out will not be permitted at work and will NOT be payed
Is there any possible plan B for Joyce??
Yes, let QF die and take the bank account and RUN


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Yes. and we would not expect to be paid for work not carried out unlike the trough snorters.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:10
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if Jetstar pilots don't go out in sympathy, then Qf flights will simply be replaced by Jetstar and Virgin (domestically) and whoever (internationally) as far as is possible .... and Management will hope AIPA ALEAA and TWU workers can be starved out..

If Jetstar pilots do go out in Sympathy, the game is ramped up. Will you?

We note that Joyce will make sure he himself is paid through this.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:11
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It's how Ansett's Unions were broken...drastic, but I bet that's the outcome he's looking for.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:12
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How can they lock out the short haul pilots??? I didn't think they were in dispute.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:13
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Watching the news, plan B comes to the front of mind.

No more Qantas.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:14
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Several posts from journalists on that tweeting website saying now the federal government is going to intervene in the dispute
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:16
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How can they lock out the short haul pilots??? I didn't think they were in dispute.
They're not in dispute, so therefore they will be paid for NOT flying aircraft.

Clever, isn't he?
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the federal government is going to intervene in the dispute
I agree re intervention. But what will/can they do?
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:18
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Just reported that QF had discussions with Oneworld partners and booked massive numbers of hotel rooms before AGM.

Seems they are also prepared to mislead the shareholders if that was the case.

Never have I seen such an appalling management team with a Board that would now be hard justified claiming they are acting in the interests of shareholders.

Disgraceful on every front.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:19
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So what % of shareholders is required to call for an EGM? More to the point, this course of action is not thought up on a whim, as seems to be what is being claimed.Why was this not announced yesterday at the AGM?
It's one thing to cause minor inconvenience, it's another to shut the shop completely.Joyce and the board need to be grilled.
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Noted DJ737 no need for the Bleeding obvious. Prays and thoughts out to all involved.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:21
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This is why the little turd was smirking yesterday at the AGM. This was planned. He didn't wake up this morning and make a snap decision. This was planned ages ago and left till after his pay rise was approved by the institutions and then cost the company $140million a week.

I'll bet those that voted in favour of the resolutions yesterday are Doh'ing today.

Nationalise the airline and oust this bad dozen of eggs.

Who's taking IA now?
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:23
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*At 6 pm the federal government said it was making an urgent application to Fair Work Australia to order an immediate cessation of industrial action by all parties on the ground of the national interest
The above is from Ben Sandilands site. Joyce has played the Government like a fiddle and right into his hands. I can only think this was maybe his last roll of the dice. Be interesting if FWA rejects the Governments application. If they do, QF better have enough money for my redundancy cheque.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 08:25
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AJ says he is grounding fleet due to union action.........

So wearing a red tie and making an announcement is grounds for grounding the fleet?????????????
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