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Old 4th Sep 2011, 18:00
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Longreach Aviation Services

Have a look in the SE Asia forum.
Longreach Aviation Services recruiting A320 pilots.
I haven't heard of em b4 but I am not a pilot.
It's gotta be sumtin to do with QF and JQ?
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Old 4th Sep 2011, 18:20
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0414 425 825 Longreach Aviation Resources Australian contact

A320 A330 and B787 on order . Perm position with large airline.

Pretty Obvious http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/downl...6560a077dedf78
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Old 4th Sep 2011, 22:10
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In regards to the Alan Joyce Avalon Press Circus video just before...

Smoke and Mirrors? or downright lies...?

From what I understand the Avalon Contractors (not even Qantas) had to sign their lives away with a substandard and early EBA for the work.

If they didn't, the work would go OS to Hong Kong.

Told it was going to be 24mths work when the reality is about 14mths, less 6 weeks for Certification.

From what I am told, there are 600 people at Avalon with about 40 or so Qantas employees (mostly Management and Leading Hands) so the future after this is apparently 737's. Used to be 900 about 6 years ago from information being told.

Sounds like they will poach 737's from Melbourne... so it sounds like a loose - loose situation for Australian Maintenance and Qantas in Australia.
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Old 4th Sep 2011, 23:51
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Lets not lose sight of the fact that Joyce is very loose with the truth. It's easy to lose sight of the big picture. But stay loose people.

But what would I know?
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 03:36
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Also worth stirring the pot by saying the Asian contact number is a Hong Kong number.....And that we carried a number of Jetstar exec's (1st class of course) there last month
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 05:04
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Longreach is nothing to do with QF/ J* execs. More to do with a conglomerate of pilots- good blokes too the ones that I know of. I can't vouch for the business systems and processes being perfect but I can vouch for a couple of the blokes behind the strategy.
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 06:45
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We have positions available for Captains and First Officers on the following aircraft types:
B744, B767, B737, A330, A320 and Dash 8
Strange that all the types exactly match QF Group types ???
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 07:20
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Longreach? What a bloody good idea, start all over again, this time with pilots and engineers running the show. Well ok, ONE beancounter. Where do we sign up?
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 09:51
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Your on the ball there they had to sign their lives away with a substandard and early EBA for the work ALAEA not so eager to to publish that to much though but the notice is on there web site with the first aircraft underway its already going pear shaped with documentation errors.


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Old 5th Sep 2011, 11:18
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I would put money down that this is almost certainly a windup with ulterior motives.

During the last EBA dispute, the infamous "HEAVY JET LAME'S" ad's popped up in the newspaper, never actually intending to employ anyone who applied, moreso as a lure to see how many were willing to sell their soul.

I'm sure this shelf company which has just popped up is just throwing the fishing line out to see how much support the AIPA and continuted industrial action is really out there all so they can plan their next tack.

All brought to you from our favourite IR consulting company no doubt.
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 11:35
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Yep I think you are well and truly on the money there 600.

Guys don't fall for the traps, the race to the bottom is going faster and faster!
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 12:19
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Nope. Both off the mark.
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 20:50
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Good Blokes

So a conglomerate of "good blokes", being current QF pilots, have hitched onto AJ's wagon to assist in the downfall of QF International and 1800 jobs?

Smells like the cabin crew deal where a former union rep started a crewing company making himself rich on atrocious pay and conditions his casual workforce endured as the sole new supplier of crew to QF.

Am I missing something?
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 21:59
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Keg

Please tell me P...r B.....n is not involved in Longreach.
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 22:33
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Don't know what to think about this. I hope they are not current QF Pilots, that would be a kick in the guts.

At the same time I guess it is a free world and maybe these guys see the writing on the wall and have got in first.

Either way we are going down and this is what we have to look forward to.
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 23:54
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PB is not involved. If he was, no-one would go to work for that company for all the obvious reasons.

Like Keg, I know the guys involved and I can vouch for them in terms of their integrity and the genuine reasons for setting up a new crewing company. I am not involved personally with the company BTW.

The bottom line is that there will be 700 mainline jobs gone by 2015, based on fleet retirements. Qantas can agree to all of AIPA's demands tomorrow, including scope, and it won't matter a tinkers cuss because QF international, as a business, will not survive given what is being done to it by senior management.

All the Longreach guys are trying to do is provide options, offshore (not in Aust) for those crew who are going to be made redundant.

The desire is to do this in a way which is different then the other crewing companies out there (Parc, Rishworth ect ect) which looks after the pilots better from a administrative, tax and welfare perspective.

There is no conspiracy.
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 23:56
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So I'm correct in saying in summary, it's established by generally respected guys from QF to crew airlines overseas and/or in Australia but NOT Qantas?
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 23:59
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McGrath.

Thats my understanding. Its not designed to provide a crewing option to Qantas mainline.

Qantas mainline is getting rid of pilots, not hiring them.....
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Old 6th Sep 2011, 00:34
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Being in the bottom 700 pilots at QF, I have had in depth discussions with one of the Longreach guys. I've known him for years, can vouch for him and believe his interest lie firmly in finding jobs for anyone who signs up, but in particular the guys who QF shafts.

The other two involved in the setup have extensive experience working contracts with the other mobs out there and they just want to "do it better" re conditions/contract commissions/employer-employee relations etc.

Just my $0.02, but I know for sure that QF have nothing to do with this in any other capacity than potentially supplying a bunch of well trained out of work pilots.
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McGrath, you got it. Just a couple of guys setting up a business. No conspiracy. In fact very good intentions, already helping guys find LWOP contract opportunities, and ready to help anyone if redundancies do occur. I can assure you these people will do nothing to undercut any Qantas group pilot.
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