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Longreach Aviation Services
Have a look in the SE Asia forum.
Longreach Aviation Services recruiting A320 pilots.
I haven't heard of em b4 but I am not a pilot.
It's gotta be sumtin to do with QF and JQ?
GLTA !
Longreach Aviation Services recruiting A320 pilots.
I haven't heard of em b4 but I am not a pilot.
It's gotta be sumtin to do with QF and JQ?
GLTA !
0414 425 825 Longreach Aviation Resources Australian contact
A320 A330 and B787 on order . Perm position with large airline.
Pretty Obvious http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/downl...6560a077dedf78
A320 A330 and B787 on order . Perm position with large airline.
Pretty Obvious http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/downl...6560a077dedf78
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In regards to the Alan Joyce Avalon Press Circus video just before...
Smoke and Mirrors? or downright lies...?
From what I understand the Avalon Contractors (not even Qantas) had to sign their lives away with a substandard and early EBA for the work.
If they didn't, the work would go OS to Hong Kong.
Told it was going to be 24mths work when the reality is about 14mths, less 6 weeks for Certification.
From what I am told, there are 600 people at Avalon with about 40 or so Qantas employees (mostly Management and Leading Hands) so the future after this is apparently 737's. Used to be 900 about 6 years ago from information being told.
Sounds like they will poach 737's from Melbourne... so it sounds like a loose - loose situation for Australian Maintenance and Qantas in Australia.
Smoke and Mirrors? or downright lies...?
From what I understand the Avalon Contractors (not even Qantas) had to sign their lives away with a substandard and early EBA for the work.
If they didn't, the work would go OS to Hong Kong.
Told it was going to be 24mths work when the reality is about 14mths, less 6 weeks for Certification.
From what I am told, there are 600 people at Avalon with about 40 or so Qantas employees (mostly Management and Leading Hands) so the future after this is apparently 737's. Used to be 900 about 6 years ago from information being told.
Sounds like they will poach 737's from Melbourne... so it sounds like a loose - loose situation for Australian Maintenance and Qantas in Australia.
Also worth stirring the pot by saying the Asian contact number is a Hong Kong number.....And that we carried a number of Jetstar exec's (1st class of course) there last month
Nunc est bibendum
Longreach is nothing to do with QF/ J* execs. More to do with a conglomerate of pilots- good blokes too the ones that I know of. I can't vouch for the business systems and processes being perfect but I can vouch for a couple of the blokes behind the strategy.
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We have positions available for Captains and First Officers on the following aircraft types:
B744, B767, B737, A330, A320 and Dash 8
B744, B767, B737, A330, A320 and Dash 8
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Longreach? What a bloody good idea, start all over again, this time with pilots and engineers running the show. Well ok, ONE beancounter. Where do we sign up?
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Your on the ball there they had to sign their lives away with a substandard and early EBA for the work ALAEA not so eager to to publish that to much though but the notice is on there web site with the first aircraft underway its already going pear shaped with documentation errors.
I would put money down that this is almost certainly a windup with ulterior motives.
During the last EBA dispute, the infamous "HEAVY JET LAME'S" ad's popped up in the newspaper, never actually intending to employ anyone who applied, moreso as a lure to see how many were willing to sell their soul.
I'm sure this shelf company which has just popped up is just throwing the fishing line out to see how much support the AIPA and continuted industrial action is really out there all so they can plan their next tack.
All brought to you from our favourite IR consulting company no doubt.
During the last EBA dispute, the infamous "HEAVY JET LAME'S" ad's popped up in the newspaper, never actually intending to employ anyone who applied, moreso as a lure to see how many were willing to sell their soul.
I'm sure this shelf company which has just popped up is just throwing the fishing line out to see how much support the AIPA and continuted industrial action is really out there all so they can plan their next tack.
All brought to you from our favourite IR consulting company no doubt.
Good Blokes
So a conglomerate of "good blokes", being current QF pilots, have hitched onto AJ's wagon to assist in the downfall of QF International and 1800 jobs?
Smells like the cabin crew deal where a former union rep started a crewing company making himself rich on atrocious pay and conditions his casual workforce endured as the sole new supplier of crew to QF.
Am I missing something?
Smells like the cabin crew deal where a former union rep started a crewing company making himself rich on atrocious pay and conditions his casual workforce endured as the sole new supplier of crew to QF.
Am I missing something?
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Don't know what to think about this. I hope they are not current QF Pilots, that would be a kick in the guts.
At the same time I guess it is a free world and maybe these guys see the writing on the wall and have got in first.
Either way we are going down and this is what we have to look forward to.
At the same time I guess it is a free world and maybe these guys see the writing on the wall and have got in first.
Either way we are going down and this is what we have to look forward to.
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PB is not involved. If he was, no-one would go to work for that company for all the obvious reasons.
Like Keg, I know the guys involved and I can vouch for them in terms of their integrity and the genuine reasons for setting up a new crewing company. I am not involved personally with the company BTW.
The bottom line is that there will be 700 mainline jobs gone by 2015, based on fleet retirements. Qantas can agree to all of AIPA's demands tomorrow, including scope, and it won't matter a tinkers cuss because QF international, as a business, will not survive given what is being done to it by senior management.
All the Longreach guys are trying to do is provide options, offshore (not in Aust) for those crew who are going to be made redundant.
The desire is to do this in a way which is different then the other crewing companies out there (Parc, Rishworth ect ect) which looks after the pilots better from a administrative, tax and welfare perspective.
There is no conspiracy.
PB is not involved. If he was, no-one would go to work for that company for all the obvious reasons.
Like Keg, I know the guys involved and I can vouch for them in terms of their integrity and the genuine reasons for setting up a new crewing company. I am not involved personally with the company BTW.
The bottom line is that there will be 700 mainline jobs gone by 2015, based on fleet retirements. Qantas can agree to all of AIPA's demands tomorrow, including scope, and it won't matter a tinkers cuss because QF international, as a business, will not survive given what is being done to it by senior management.
All the Longreach guys are trying to do is provide options, offshore (not in Aust) for those crew who are going to be made redundant.
The desire is to do this in a way which is different then the other crewing companies out there (Parc, Rishworth ect ect) which looks after the pilots better from a administrative, tax and welfare perspective.
There is no conspiracy.
Being in the bottom 700 pilots at QF, I have had in depth discussions with one of the Longreach guys. I've known him for years, can vouch for him and believe his interest lie firmly in finding jobs for anyone who signs up, but in particular the guys who QF shafts.
The other two involved in the setup have extensive experience working contracts with the other mobs out there and they just want to "do it better" re conditions/contract commissions/employer-employee relations etc.
Just my $0.02, but I know for sure that QF have nothing to do with this in any other capacity than potentially supplying a bunch of well trained out of work pilots.
The other two involved in the setup have extensive experience working contracts with the other mobs out there and they just want to "do it better" re conditions/contract commissions/employer-employee relations etc.
Just my $0.02, but I know for sure that QF have nothing to do with this in any other capacity than potentially supplying a bunch of well trained out of work pilots.
McGrath, you got it. Just a couple of guys setting up a business. No conspiracy. In fact very good intentions, already helping guys find LWOP contract opportunities, and ready to help anyone if redundancies do occur. I can assure you these people will do nothing to undercut any Qantas group pilot.