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company trolls
Seriously, what kind of twisted, evil, screwed up souls get their kicks from gloating and baiting in forums such as these when decent Australians are in danger of losing their livelihoods? The engineers and pilots are trying to keep a great company from being destroyed by morons and at the same time keep their families fed, and there are managers who post here laughing at any setback to their cause. I am totally disgusted at these wastes of oxygen.
How can these people look at themselves in the mirror and not have to avert their eyes?
How can these people look at themselves in the mirror and not have to avert their eyes?
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Anyone noticed Jetstar has reduced SIN-AKL from daily to 5 weekly and now 4 weekly till the end of November?
SQ is 12x weekly to AKL and 5x weekly for the Northern Winter schedule and double daily into AKL and daily to CHC.
The dumb thing is you can't book AKL-SIN-FRA or AKL-SIN-LHR from the QF or JQ sites.
And with SQ starting SCOOT with the 777s with a capacity of 410 in a 3-4-3 config with INFLIGHT INTERNET, They can send Scoot on any potential 3K longhaul route and dump capacity to kill them.
Clap Clap Alan Joyce for revealing your plans years in advance. SQ is not going to the press every other day to reveal their plans for SCOOT.
In the rights alloction for Haneda Airport, 14 slots were given to Singapore carriers. The different carriers must put forward a business case to CAAS as to why they should be allocated the rights, and how doing so facilitates the growth of air traffic through Singapore.
Why was Jetstar not awarded the rights? Because Haneda a good airport for connections to other domestic points. SIA could argue that they would give seamless connections for their pax via Haneda to numerous Japanese cities. Jetstar as an LCC was unable to argue this as they largely sell point to point, and certainly do not have any partner at Haneda to transfer connecting pax to.
There is currently an unused daily slot into Narita which is not used by any Singaporean carrier. Jetstar has not taken up that slot.
Now, Scoot's 777s will have a capacity of 410. Jetstar's A330s have a capacity of 303. In the business case to CAAS as to which carrier should be allocated the rights, Scoot can very easily say that they can carry 33% more pax than Jetstar can, and put a very strong case forward as to why they deserve the rights.
Perhaps Jetstar can argue that they have the feed via SIN from the QF Group, whereas Scoot will be managed independently from SQ and SQ will not feed pax into Scoot and vv.
However after 7 years of watching 3K grow out of SIN, SQ is not going to take their expansion lying down. And why should they?
On another note, SQ is also quietly going 24 weekly to PER (14 for QF) and 10 weekly to ADL (3 for QF) and 24 weekly to BNE (7 for QF) for the Australian summer.
SQ is 12x weekly to AKL and 5x weekly for the Northern Winter schedule and double daily into AKL and daily to CHC.
The dumb thing is you can't book AKL-SIN-FRA or AKL-SIN-LHR from the QF or JQ sites.
And with SQ starting SCOOT with the 777s with a capacity of 410 in a 3-4-3 config with INFLIGHT INTERNET, They can send Scoot on any potential 3K longhaul route and dump capacity to kill them.
Clap Clap Alan Joyce for revealing your plans years in advance. SQ is not going to the press every other day to reveal their plans for SCOOT.
In the rights alloction for Haneda Airport, 14 slots were given to Singapore carriers. The different carriers must put forward a business case to CAAS as to why they should be allocated the rights, and how doing so facilitates the growth of air traffic through Singapore.
Why was Jetstar not awarded the rights? Because Haneda a good airport for connections to other domestic points. SIA could argue that they would give seamless connections for their pax via Haneda to numerous Japanese cities. Jetstar as an LCC was unable to argue this as they largely sell point to point, and certainly do not have any partner at Haneda to transfer connecting pax to.
There is currently an unused daily slot into Narita which is not used by any Singaporean carrier. Jetstar has not taken up that slot.
Now, Scoot's 777s will have a capacity of 410. Jetstar's A330s have a capacity of 303. In the business case to CAAS as to which carrier should be allocated the rights, Scoot can very easily say that they can carry 33% more pax than Jetstar can, and put a very strong case forward as to why they deserve the rights.
Perhaps Jetstar can argue that they have the feed via SIN from the QF Group, whereas Scoot will be managed independently from SQ and SQ will not feed pax into Scoot and vv.
However after 7 years of watching 3K grow out of SIN, SQ is not going to take their expansion lying down. And why should they?
On another note, SQ is also quietly going 24 weekly to PER (14 for QF) and 10 weekly to ADL (3 for QF) and 24 weekly to BNE (7 for QF) for the Australian summer.
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Originally Posted by TBM-Legend
AIPA sound like Ju-liar beating up on the High Court.....
cry babies!
cry babies!
And why didn't you say "AIPA sound like Howard beating up on the High Court after the "Wik" decision"? Selective memory eh? Truth is that sometimes the judgements go your way and sometimes they don't. The Court's decision simply reflects the apparent legal freedom corporations in Australia have to be completely shonky. It doesn't say how sincere or genuine they are - just that some judges don't reckon they're technically breaking the law. People have every right to be irritated about that.
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Good links C441 
If you really want to enjoy the spleen venting, use the company Employee Assistance Program. With this, the counsiling is FREE to you as QF will be sent the bill. Talking out your worries knowing that the company is paying would have a definite theraputic effect.
It is annoymous too.. the only information the company will get is that a staff member from such-and-such department-attended-and-please-find-the-invoice-attached.
It sounds fair to me that if management is causing such grief then the company should pick up the tab
If you really want to enjoy the spleen venting, use the company Employee Assistance Program. With this, the counsiling is FREE to you as QF will be sent the bill. Talking out your worries knowing that the company is paying would have a definite theraputic effect.
It is annoymous too.. the only information the company will get is that a staff member from such-and-such department-attended-and-please-find-the-invoice-attached.
It sounds fair to me that if management is causing such grief then the company should pick up the tab
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Yeah Cheers for that C441.
I have had some great advice from you blokes special thanks to Framer.
I don't want people to think I am a nutcase I just think the timing of buying a new place and the water torture that management is applying to its staff coupled with the fact that I refused to discuss my worries with anybody just got me down.
I have taken some positive steps at home and am going to deal with whatever comes with the help of my girlfriend and others. What I will not be doing is keeping it to myself. Was able to open up to my girl last night and she was so supportive. Top girlxx
I understand we are all in the same boat dealing with a ****ty situation.
Thanks everyone who offered advice can't say I am not still nervous about what lies ahead but I am one of many not just at Qantas but all round Australia. Think of the poor buggers at Bluescope.
It's all good this end, resume normal transmission.
By the way thanks Mods for the leeway I know it was a bit off topic and this is an important thread to keep open.
Cheers all.
I have had some great advice from you blokes special thanks to Framer.
I don't want people to think I am a nutcase I just think the timing of buying a new place and the water torture that management is applying to its staff coupled with the fact that I refused to discuss my worries with anybody just got me down.
I have taken some positive steps at home and am going to deal with whatever comes with the help of my girlfriend and others. What I will not be doing is keeping it to myself. Was able to open up to my girl last night and she was so supportive. Top girlxx
I understand we are all in the same boat dealing with a ****ty situation.
Thanks everyone who offered advice can't say I am not still nervous about what lies ahead but I am one of many not just at Qantas but all round Australia. Think of the poor buggers at Bluescope.
It's all good this end, resume normal transmission.
By the way thanks Mods for the leeway I know it was a bit off topic and this is an important thread to keep open.
Cheers all.
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beyondblue: the national depression initiative
Lifeline Australia 13 11 14 - Suicide Prevention, Crisis Support & Mental Health services - Lifeline | Connect with someone who cares
For anyone who feels it is all getting A Bit Too Much, these guys are worth a call. I imagine that they're getting a lot of calls in the current economic climate (and probably a fair few from Federal ALP MPs
).
Seriously, 'toughening up' is about as effective as filling Lake Eyre with a hose if you're feeling really depressed/anxious. Nor does Dr Dan Murphy have all the answers and not everyone has a supportive partner.
Even if your partner is supportive, if your image/ego depends partially on being a
'n' cocky pilot you may find it hard to speak to people you're close to. Sometimes talking to someone you don't know (and whose opinion you don't care about) can be a hell of a lot easier.
Both the above are anonymous and no-one needs to know that you called.
(edit; oops, second time for BB).
Lifeline Australia 13 11 14 - Suicide Prevention, Crisis Support & Mental Health services - Lifeline | Connect with someone who cares
For anyone who feels it is all getting A Bit Too Much, these guys are worth a call. I imagine that they're getting a lot of calls in the current economic climate (and probably a fair few from Federal ALP MPs
). Seriously, 'toughening up' is about as effective as filling Lake Eyre with a hose if you're feeling really depressed/anxious. Nor does Dr Dan Murphy have all the answers and not everyone has a supportive partner.
Even if your partner is supportive, if your image/ego depends partially on being a
'n' cocky pilot you may find it hard to speak to people you're close to. Sometimes talking to someone you don't know (and whose opinion you don't care about) can be a hell of a lot easier. Both the above are anonymous and no-one needs to know that you called.
(edit; oops, second time for BB).
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This should add fuel to the fire
Qantas chief Alan Joyce's pay package soars
Qantas chief's pay soars
Matt O'Sullivan
September 7, 2011 - 2:52PM
Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce has received a 71 per cent increase in his total pay to $5 million, making him one of the highest paid airline chiefs in the world.
The boost to Mr Joyce’s total pay comes amid a bitter industrial dispute between management and key unions representing pilots and aircraft engineers over pay and conditions.
Qantas’s annual report, released today, reveals Mr Joyce earned a total of $5 million for the year to June 30, compared with $2.9 million a year earlier. Qantas’s share price fell 16 per cent over the same period, while the airline's profit doubled.
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Mr Joyce's latest package includes $2.04 million in fixed pay and $2.2 million in short-term benefits.
All of Qantas’s senior leadership team received a boost to their total pay in a year in which the company more than doubled its annual net profit to $249 million.
Jetstar’s chief executive, Bruce Buchanan, received a total package of $1.4 million, compared with $1.1 million a year earlier, while Qantas’s operations chief, Lyell Strambi, saw his pay rise from $1.2 million to $1.7 million.
The second-highest paid executive was Rob Kella, Qantas’s former chief risk officer who officially left the airline on July 1 ‘‘as a mutually agreed termination’’.
His pay package for the year totalled almost $1.8 million, compared with $1.26 million in 2009-10. Mr Kella did not receive a termination payment nor a payment in lie of notice.
The chairman of the airline’s remuneration committee, James Strong, said in the annual report that the board had achieved ‘‘what we believe is an appropriate mix of fair reward, retention of key executives and alignment with the interests of the shareholders of Qantas’’.
‘‘This has been a year where company performance has been good relative to the challenges faced, and where a strong performance by management has produced what is, in the circumstances, a satisfactory profit outcome,’’ he said.
Qantas chief Alan Joyce's pay package soars
Qantas chief's pay soars
Matt O'Sullivan
September 7, 2011 - 2:52PM
Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce has received a 71 per cent increase in his total pay to $5 million, making him one of the highest paid airline chiefs in the world.
The boost to Mr Joyce’s total pay comes amid a bitter industrial dispute between management and key unions representing pilots and aircraft engineers over pay and conditions.
Qantas’s annual report, released today, reveals Mr Joyce earned a total of $5 million for the year to June 30, compared with $2.9 million a year earlier. Qantas’s share price fell 16 per cent over the same period, while the airline's profit doubled.
Advertisement: Story continues below
Mr Joyce's latest package includes $2.04 million in fixed pay and $2.2 million in short-term benefits.
All of Qantas’s senior leadership team received a boost to their total pay in a year in which the company more than doubled its annual net profit to $249 million.
Jetstar’s chief executive, Bruce Buchanan, received a total package of $1.4 million, compared with $1.1 million a year earlier, while Qantas’s operations chief, Lyell Strambi, saw his pay rise from $1.2 million to $1.7 million.
The second-highest paid executive was Rob Kella, Qantas’s former chief risk officer who officially left the airline on July 1 ‘‘as a mutually agreed termination’’.
His pay package for the year totalled almost $1.8 million, compared with $1.26 million in 2009-10. Mr Kella did not receive a termination payment nor a payment in lie of notice.
The chairman of the airline’s remuneration committee, James Strong, said in the annual report that the board had achieved ‘‘what we believe is an appropriate mix of fair reward, retention of key executives and alignment with the interests of the shareholders of Qantas’’.
‘‘This has been a year where company performance has been good relative to the challenges faced, and where a strong performance by management has produced what is, in the circumstances, a satisfactory profit outcome,’’ he said.
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‘what we believe is an appropriate mix of fair reward, retention of key executives and alignment with the interests of the shareholders of Qantas’’
Interest`s of shareholders???????? Where are the dividends you greedy &^%$$%%^^^&^&!!!!!!
Interest`s of shareholders???????? Where are the dividends you greedy &^%$$%%^^^&^&!!!!!!
what we believe is an appropriate mix of fair reward, retention of key executives and alignment with the interests of the shareholders of Qantas
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‘‘This has been a year where company performance has been good relative to the challenges faced, and where a strong performance by management has produced what is, in the circumstances, a satisfactory profit outcome,’’ he said.
Ok....if that is fair and reasonable...........stop screwing the workforce over
Few interest points in the annual report 2011.
Qantas Group
The QF32 and consequential groundings of all the A380's affected the Qantas International segment but the settlement goes to the group?
"service" fees. Right.
Nice 'performance' targets set by the board. Share price at a record low and still 600,000 shares are issued. Nice.
But pilots are 'greedy' asking for a a single trip ? Hypocritical.
Lucky we had the management there to do all of this singlehandedly. Here have a payrise and a few million shares.
Which balance sheet gets the privilege to depreciate the 9 x A330's on 'lease' to JQ International ? What about the 5 x A320's on 'lease' to JQ domestic ?
Qantas Group
Rolls-Royce settlement revenue 95 Million
Passenger service fees 2011 $341million 2010 $295million
Alan Joyce Shares 2011 - 721,255 2010 - 138,255
Travel Entitlements An annual benefit of trips for these Executives and eligible beneficiaries during employment, at no cost to the
individual, as follows:
individual, as follows:
Alan Joyce 4 International 12 Domestic Bruce
Buchanan 2 International 6 Domestic
Buchanan 2 International 6 Domestic
Qantas Performance – STIP Outcomes in 2010/2011
Underlying PBT for 2010/2011 increased by 46 per cent to $552 million.
Management’s contribution to this result was by way of a combination of co-ordinated responses to the challenges of the year, plus the
successful implementation and achievement of benefits from a number of key strategic initiatives:
—— Re-allocation of aircraft capacity within the Qantas network to re-establish services impacted by the grounding of A380 aircraft powered
by Rolls-Royce engines
—— Customer care initiatives to assist customers affected by the volcanic ash disruptions, and the earthquake, tsunami, cyclone and flood
events which resulted in such devastation in the key communities and markets that Qantas serves
Underlying PBT for 2010/2011 increased by 46 per cent to $552 million.
Management’s contribution to this result was by way of a combination of co-ordinated responses to the challenges of the year, plus the
successful implementation and achievement of benefits from a number of key strategic initiatives:
—— Re-allocation of aircraft capacity within the Qantas network to re-establish services impacted by the grounding of A380 aircraft powered
by Rolls-Royce engines
—— Customer care initiatives to assist customers affected by the volcanic ash disruptions, and the earthquake, tsunami, cyclone and flood
events which resulted in such devastation in the key communities and markets that Qantas serves
Depreciation and amortisation 2010 Qantas ($1,069million) Jetstar ($17million)
Depreciation and amortisation 2011 Qantas ($1,124million) Jetstar ($71million)
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Qantas boss wins 71pc, $2m pay hike | Herald Sun
here's a slap in the face folks. $200 travel vouchers and AJ gifted a motza
here's a slap in the face folks. $200 travel vouchers and AJ gifted a motza
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The current world we live in with all the CEOs running off with bank loads of cash, whilst the "workers" struggle, have no job security, and many losing their jobs is a DISGRACE!!
It's got to come to a time when the public revolt and stop these thieves!
It's got to come to a time when the public revolt and stop these thieves!
