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Old 22nd Aug 2011, 08:51
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Yeah and wait until you they get the almost routine delays of BA.OK coming back but horrible heading over.

No premium passenger is going to go even contemplate this one without some huge price incentive...that's right, QF is one of the most expensive.

What medication are these planners on???

This will be the end of the rat.
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Old 22nd Aug 2011, 08:57
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What medication are these planners on???

This will be the end of the rat.
I would suggest to you that no medication is involved & this is all completely rational. The question is "How would these planners measure success"? Would the end of the rat be a successful outcome to them?

You may need to adjust your paradigm.
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Old 22nd Aug 2011, 12:16
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QF23 SYD1335-BKK1855 744 D connect to BA010 0020+1BKK-0630+1LHR 744 D
BA009 LHR2200 – BKK1515+1 744 D connect to QF24 BKK2055-SYD1000+1 744 D
Amazing! If these schedules are correct, they won't last for long as no one will buy them. What a way to treat a customer? It would be interesting to know the basis for these schedules but they could be 'dummied' so as to get something into the Res Systems.
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Old 22nd Aug 2011, 18:42
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The Qantas Group believes its future lies in China, ask Alan Joyce about all the money the Australian shareholders will make out of the Chinese.....

Oh wait!

THE Chinese legal system has struck again against a successful Australian business person, this time a single mother who founded a private university in Guangzhou.

The case of Charlotte Chou has been kept quiet since she was taken from her home on the night of June 24, 2008, while her one-year-old boy was asleep.

Ms Chou was interrogated while being deprived of sleep for several days, without access to a lawyer, and later convicted of bribery on the basis of those confessions, say family members. She was released in December 2009 and immediately re-arrested at the prison gate.

The next chapter in Ms Chou's three-year ordeal will occur on August 30, when she will be tried for embezzlement.

Ms Chou's case is the fifth that The Age has exclusively revealed involving a successful Australian citizen being detained by Chinese police in murky circumstances.

Read more: Another Australian hits China's legal wall

Didn't you learn anything from your Vietnam experience Alan? Alan?


TWO Australian Qantas executives have been held in Vietnam and the former boss of joint venture Jetstar Pacific arrested over losses at the budget carrier.

Qantas executives Daniela Marsilli and Tristan Freeman have not been formally charged but were forced to spend Christmas in Vietnam and are still prevented from leaving the country.

The two are part of a team seconded to modernise Jetstar Pacific, 27 per cent owned by Qantas.

Alan Joyce, chief executive of Qantas, which part owns Jetstar, admitted that losses from so-called fuel hedging ran into hundreds of millions of dollars but said the practice of fuel hedging was routine within the airline industry.
He added that he was confident the employees had done nothing wrong.


Qantas bosses held in Vietnam | The Australian
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OMG. Will the REAL Ken Borough please stand up?
Ken, I think you forgot to log off and your avatar's been hijacked.
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Old 22nd Aug 2011, 22:48
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Didn't you learn anything from your Vietnam experience Alan? Alan?


TWO Australian Qantas executives have been held in Vietnam and the former boss of joint venture Jetstar Pacific arrested over losses at the budget carrier.

Qantas executives Daniela Marsilli and Tristan Freeman have not been formally charged but were forced to spend Christmas in Vietnam and are still prevented from leaving the country.

The two are part of a team seconded to modernise Jetstar Pacific, 27 per cent owned by Qantas.

Alan Joyce, chief executive of Qantas, which part owns Jetstar, admitted that losses from so-called fuel hedging ran into hundreds of millions of dollars but said the practice of fuel hedging was routine within the airline industry.
He added that he was confident the employees had done nothing wrong.

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...and not to mention the ca$$$h
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Old 22nd Aug 2011, 23:29
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THE Chinese legal system has struck again against a successful Australian business person, this time a single mother who founded a private university in Guangzhou.
The case of Charlotte Chou has been kept quiet since she was taken from her home on the night of June 24, 2008, while her one-year-old boy was asleep.
Ms Chou was interrogated while being deprived of sleep for several days, without access to a lawyer, and later convicted of bribery on the basis of those confessions, say family members. She was released in December 2009 and immediately re-arrested at the prison gate.
What a sterling idea. Maybe the QF Board, AJ and Bruse could all be based offshore, in China. If the above article is how Chinese businesses receive 'oversight' then I for one am in favor. Imagine the QF echelon copping that treatment, pure gold.If that doesnt keep them honest I dont know what will ?
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I wish their was a smilie of a guy rolling around on the ground in fits of laughter
The Chinese make the Vietnamise look like fair trade, I just can't wait to see how this pans out, its going to be ing hilarious.
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 00:05
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Play the position, not the man

AJ may be short, Irish and sometimes incoherent, and his predilections and personal tastes may be incompatible with your world view. But juvenile insults about a person's stature, accent or private life serve no-one's cause well. It may make you feel better to vent your frustration by striking below the belt from anonymity. But remember, these forums and your true identity may not be as secure as you think. And these are public forums. We have enough of a fight on our hands without alienating members of the public who either share AJ's attributes or who simply find such insults abhorrent regardless of the target. Such comments reflect poorly on all of us.

Play the position, not the man.
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 00:14
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Malaysia's not much better, though they won't quite throw you in jail for hanky panky. You get a medal for it.

Eg. The shareprice of Air Asia doubled in the last 3 months, while that of MAS went down 40% in the 3 months leading up to the announcement of this MAS-AK share "swap".

Tony Fernandes now gets MH at a discount, while the Malaysian taxpayer forked out much more for Air Asia. Who bailed who out? Did MH bail out Air Asia or did Air Asia bail out MH? Why did the share prices move in such specific directions in the 3 months leading up to this announcement?

Looking at the Air Asia board, the ruling party has appointed all their cronies there.

Do things look as simple as they seem? If QF wants to jump into bed with MH-Air Asia, I hope they know they have to handsomely reward everyone from the number 1 man down.

MH is not an unprofitable airline per se. It's just that everyone in MH and their cronies are making money from MH through their own little cosy contracts. In fact the old MH management spent more time thinking of which supply contracts they could award to their family and friends, rather than how to actually improve the airline. Rumours abound of eggs being sold to MH Catering at RM4 (US$1.35) per egg, because "so-and-so"'s relative owned the farm that supplied these eggs.

Why is it that Malaysia keeps pumping bad money into Proton year after year? Volkswagen tried to buy it, but the Malaysian govt said that all existing supply contracts must stay, and they could not get rid of the Malaysian management. Again - the establishment would rather this crappy company stay afloat to feed their relatives and friends.

Malaysia is indeed truly Asia. If AJ and co think that the Malaysian government is sitting around waiting in eager anticipation for QF to set up an airline there and fight with MH and AK for those precious air rights, he better think again.

Only Singapore would merrily allow QF to set up a proxy airline and take on precious air rights which SQ fought for decades to achieve, for the sake of growing its "air hub status" and its economy, creating jobs in the process. Perhaps the presence of the QF Group hub in Singapore is beneficial to the local economy, which was the number one concern of the SIN govt in this whole venture. 3K has grown much faster since Temasek divested of its stake. Temasek did not get SQ and MI and TR to ruin 3K and prevent their growing out of SIN.

However this is why Singapore is Singapore, and Malaysia will always be Malaysia, Thailand will always be Thailand and Indonesia will always be Indonesia!
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 00:56
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Just curious, why are the AGM motions being mailed to the AIPA and not direct to QF ?
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 01:03
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 02:06
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NM , good post , sound advice , a lot on here should take note of .
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 04:12
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Come to tomorrow are we going to get the full details or another wishy washy AJ speech highlighted by "yet to be announced, forthcoming options, arising opportunities, possible this, possible that, likely scenarios, under consideration...bla"

We want to know the truth and the whole truth. We want actual changes, dates not more lies, truth and honesty
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 05:16
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Anyone know where the best coverage of the press conference will be? Televised or otherwise...
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 06:21
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Where has the ALAEA gone ? this was all a big deal for a day in the news now next to nothing.
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 06:29
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QF up 8.5% today…..did I miss something….did AJ resign?…..is there a buyout in the offing?….very unusual activity!
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 07:13
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Qantas ASX Info.

QANTAS AIRWAYS LIMITED (QAN) - ASX Listed Company Information Fact Sheet
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 07:22
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QF up 8.5% today…..did I miss something….did AJ resign?…..is there a buyout in the offing?….very unusual activity!
Bit of a mixed bag, punters selling fearing tomorrows 'big news' won't be good, other punters betting that tomorrow's news will be upbeat so they are buying, then throw in the mix that depending on what the DOW is doing the share price may fluctuate daily by a few percent here and there while global instability reigns supreme! Plus, a buyout may be brewing, also affecting the market, but I wouldn't get too excited as anything the current CEO or Board do puts extra nails in QF's coffin.....
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8.5%??? I smell a takeover offer!!!!!!!!!!

This is obviously what was planned, it will be announced tomorrow....

"Qantas is in advanced discussions with Malaysian Airlines.

The Federal Government has been kept informed...."
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