Rumour: Sunstate Engineers suspended over aircraft sabotage?
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Hay B.U.F.F
What gains do they hope to achieve?
Well I think they are going for the Guinness book of records to see how big of a hole they have to dig to get the last piece of metal out of a smoking hole
Where do they hope to be in 10 years
If they keep pulling this sh!t non excitant
Ps if you keep treating people like sh!t the only people left will be those with sh!t for brains!!!
What gains do they hope to achieve?
Well I think they are going for the Guinness book of records to see how big of a hole they have to dig to get the last piece of metal out of a smoking hole
Where do they hope to be in 10 years
If they keep pulling this sh!t non excitant
Ps if you keep treating people like sh!t the only people left will be those with sh!t for brains!!!
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The f#$ked up government needs to step in and realise that this ridiculous law that Qantas is taking advantage of is seriously undermining the working rights of every man and woman. They also need to realise that it has the serious potential to massively impact on aircraft safety. They need to stop listening to the so called experts who provide spread sheets and colourful charts to which has resulted in the "must have workplace reform" laws we are currently subjected to. These laws are going to create a serious stink throughout all industries if something does not change. Qantas has shown severe misjudgment by allowing this crap to go as far as this.
Where the bloody hell is CASA. How can a Lame do his job if he is second guessing what is classified as safety/security, or because the Lame should not be looking there in the first place or has changed the way he customarily carried out his work. What a crock, CASA can't keep its head in the sand forever.
Where the bloody hell is CASA. How can a Lame do his job if he is second guessing what is classified as safety/security, or because the Lame should not be looking there in the first place or has changed the way he customarily carried out his work. What a crock, CASA can't keep its head in the sand forever.
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Where the bloody hell is CASA!
With a little red flashing LED on top worn by Lames around the
Country could be an act of Lame solitary against this persecution.
After all the buck stops with them! They should be worn
Until these guys are exonerated
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sh!t for brains
L riding hood :
I personally think they started with sh!t for brains has now now moved to sh!t on the liver.
rudderless1
regarding the hats - great idea.
should try and source some, if so put me down for one
Hear through the grapevine sunnies manager doesn't like the ALAEA hat. the boys should wear them !
Isamu Pahoa
Wide load big red - won't go down that path until re-election time, then amend to keep unions happy without upsetting big business's. as per last time when a couple of sections removed and act renamed.
I personally think they started with sh!t for brains has now now moved to sh!t on the liver.
rudderless1
regarding the hats - great idea.
should try and source some, if so put me down for one
Hear through the grapevine sunnies manager doesn't like the ALAEA hat. the boys should wear them !
Isamu Pahoa
Wide load big red - won't go down that path until re-election time, then amend to keep unions happy without upsetting big business's. as per last time when a couple of sections removed and act renamed.
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QF versus everybody
It would appear from various threads here and in other material.
AJ is paranoid - everybody is out to get him.
The whole workforce is against him.
Those nasty foreign airlines trying to encroach on his lucrative routes - how dare they offer newer aircraft and service to boot.
Seems nobody remembers F-111 australian Gov't signed up as a partner in the development - costs blow out, delivery delayed. Latest attempt submarines for the Navy - already looking for alternatives haven't been right from the start.
So the 380 and the 787 will be the savior of QF
787 delayed - that helps
380 recent incident - not helpful.
Staff not getting a fair shake at the table during EBA's - why probably due to commitment on new untried aircraft. Probably can't enforce the delay clause as if they did builder goes down, investment gone along with the company, so they suck it up and try to save costs else where. Hey pick on the staff - expect them to work harder, longer and in real terms for less as the price of everything around them goes up.
Fuel prices gone back up - QF raises the surcharge to cover shortfall on hedged price. Can staff raise their surcharge for turning up to work - not likely suck it up !
Cost of living goes up, mortgage up, food up, electricity up, water up, rates up, natural disaster medicare up and oh fuel up, costs you more to get to work staff - suck it up.
Manager gets fuel,phone and other assorted no cost to him benefits.
Can sit in the nice comfy chair do nothing ( no increase in costs) pick up a bonus.
But the cracks appear outside the door, do the same for the next year - another bonus. Cracks now getting bigger - still do nothing once again another bonus.
Staff fall in cracks - LTI bugger bonus affected put sign around crack job done minimum expense still get bonus. Crack getting bigger but sign cheapest option. Advantage of chasm between boss & staff - no communication, won't have to do anything - guess what BONUS
AJ is paranoid - everybody is out to get him.
The whole workforce is against him.
Those nasty foreign airlines trying to encroach on his lucrative routes - how dare they offer newer aircraft and service to boot.
Seems nobody remembers F-111 australian Gov't signed up as a partner in the development - costs blow out, delivery delayed. Latest attempt submarines for the Navy - already looking for alternatives haven't been right from the start.
So the 380 and the 787 will be the savior of QF
787 delayed - that helps
380 recent incident - not helpful.
Staff not getting a fair shake at the table during EBA's - why probably due to commitment on new untried aircraft. Probably can't enforce the delay clause as if they did builder goes down, investment gone along with the company, so they suck it up and try to save costs else where. Hey pick on the staff - expect them to work harder, longer and in real terms for less as the price of everything around them goes up.
Fuel prices gone back up - QF raises the surcharge to cover shortfall on hedged price. Can staff raise their surcharge for turning up to work - not likely suck it up !
Cost of living goes up, mortgage up, food up, electricity up, water up, rates up, natural disaster medicare up and oh fuel up, costs you more to get to work staff - suck it up.
Manager gets fuel,phone and other assorted no cost to him benefits.
Can sit in the nice comfy chair do nothing ( no increase in costs) pick up a bonus.
But the cracks appear outside the door, do the same for the next year - another bonus. Cracks now getting bigger - still do nothing once again another bonus.
Staff fall in cracks - LTI bugger bonus affected put sign around crack job done minimum expense still get bonus. Crack getting bigger but sign cheapest option. Advantage of chasm between boss & staff - no communication, won't have to do anything - guess what BONUS
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Sunnies EBA & PIA
Has gone quiet since the return of the "6", however debacle not solved.
Sunnies managers gone quiet - too quiet.
They haven't even bothered to tell us the truth about the situation for sometime now.
Either packing up their offices ready to leave or concentrating really hard on the next round to try and break the will of the LAME's.
With the Int'l pilots and QF LAME's EBA's up and running, has QF decided to concentrate on these issues and not the ones regarding only 26 remaining LAME's.
Sunnies managers gone quiet - too quiet.
They haven't even bothered to tell us the truth about the situation for sometime now.
Either packing up their offices ready to leave or concentrating really hard on the next round to try and break the will of the LAME's.
With the Int'l pilots and QF LAME's EBA's up and running, has QF decided to concentrate on these issues and not the ones regarding only 26 remaining LAME's.
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Ongoing dispute
It would seem that engineering takes a very poor backseat in the scheme of airline business. The company's Q and QL are very willing to negotiate with pilots threatening PIA but when engineering threaten the same it's like bring it on, you can't dictate terms.
Sorry but I think it is time they compensated for the late nights, standing in the rain, not providing appropriate equipment or facilities.
Sorry but I think it is time they compensated for the late nights, standing in the rain, not providing appropriate equipment or facilities.
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I see they have advertised for a supervisor for Brisbane Qantaslink. I gather it is with the Sunstate guys? I can't keep track, is it a Qantaslink position or is it a Sunstate Airlines position.
It sounds like a great place to work, maybe I will put in a CV
. I don't have much experience with Dash8 but sounds like you don't need it!!
Then again, I think I will stay where I am. They treat me nice and listen when there are issues.
It sounds like a great place to work, maybe I will put in a CV
. I don't have much experience with Dash8 but sounds like you don't need it!!Then again, I think I will stay where I am. They treat me nice and listen when there are issues.
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supervisor for Brisbane Qantaslink
Isamu Pahoa
I don't think you should waste your time - position, as most are in this organization, ear marked for the SPECIAL PEOPLE.
If you have a brain & use it - FAIL
If you want to improve things - FAIL (might cost too much)
If not a relation or a suck - FAIL
Realize person conducting interview is a moron - Pass. Then you don't want the job.
I don't think you should waste your time - position, as most are in this organization, ear marked for the SPECIAL PEOPLE.
If you have a brain & use it - FAIL
If you want to improve things - FAIL (might cost too much)
If not a relation or a suck - FAIL
Realize person conducting interview is a moron - Pass. Then you don't want the job.
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sunstate engineers
Any word on the Sunstate boys? I have seen a QL Dash8 parked at the Qantas hangar in Brisbane for a couple of weeks. Whats going on with that aircraft?
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Ongoing dispute
Probably wasn't the same aircraft, however it may have been one fresh from contractor heavy maintenance. Spent more time on the ground than revenue flights.
Aircraft parked waiting to be fixed by contracted scabs rather than try to solve the issues which caused **** fight.
QL management put in place shift that is totally unusable for maintenance, basic turnarounds and put aircraft to bed. Big jobs wait for managers and scabs.
Reliability of aircraft falling, snags not being fixed during scheduled maintenance, maintenance logs full of extensions for deferred maintenance.
Not a lot of news coming forth as Fed Sec involved in back room discussions regarding this and Q engineers EA.
Many are frustrated but hanging in there determined not to back down due to the previous years of being treated like utter morons by the management who are tucked up nice and warm in bed whilst we try to achieve miracles without spares, equipment and manpower.
Managers so arrogant and cocky that they are already saying the opposition won't last long. Having a monopoly for so long has bred this attitude of indestructibility. Half arsed managers doing a half arsed job getting bonus's when they should be ensuring that when the crunch comes they have the staff with motivation and enthusiasm to get through the hard times. At present most staff just marking time waiting for a better offer.
Aircraft parked waiting to be fixed by contracted scabs rather than try to solve the issues which caused **** fight.
QL management put in place shift that is totally unusable for maintenance, basic turnarounds and put aircraft to bed. Big jobs wait for managers and scabs.
Reliability of aircraft falling, snags not being fixed during scheduled maintenance, maintenance logs full of extensions for deferred maintenance.
Not a lot of news coming forth as Fed Sec involved in back room discussions regarding this and Q engineers EA.
Many are frustrated but hanging in there determined not to back down due to the previous years of being treated like utter morons by the management who are tucked up nice and warm in bed whilst we try to achieve miracles without spares, equipment and manpower.
Managers so arrogant and cocky that they are already saying the opposition won't last long. Having a monopoly for so long has bred this attitude of indestructibility. Half arsed managers doing a half arsed job getting bonus's when they should be ensuring that when the crunch comes they have the staff with motivation and enthusiasm to get through the hard times. At present most staff just marking time waiting for a better offer.
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I will be hanging in there, wish to see the results from sticking it back up the morons.
Hopefully the only people losing their jobs will be the instigators of the dispute due to incompetence shown in the past.
Feel sorry for the young guys, many more years of the inconsiderate tactics to face in their blossoming careers. They should be encouraged to stay with fair pay and good conditions. However many seek employment elsewhere due to better pay and better conditions. Aviation has let its guard down, talent outside this industry has been recognized and payed accordingly.
Hopefully the only people losing their jobs will be the instigators of the dispute due to incompetence shown in the past.
Feel sorry for the young guys, many more years of the inconsiderate tactics to face in their blossoming careers. They should be encouraged to stay with fair pay and good conditions. However many seek employment elsewhere due to better pay and better conditions. Aviation has let its guard down, talent outside this industry has been recognized and payed accordingly.
I can't agree more with your sentiments!
I and many others trust you all will have the strength and willpower to see these industry termites off!
Oh, to see them all reap their just deserves would warm the soul!!
I and many others trust you all will have the strength and willpower to see these industry termites off!
Oh, to see them all reap their just deserves would warm the soul!!
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Digging a big hole
I bet the local managers are glad to have the paddle pop six back from their little holiday. Especially since it has been noticed that one of the Q400's has been on the deck u/s nearly every day since coming out of one of the so called capable third party maintenance facilities. I think it has been stated by management as protecting the business, by using such facilities. that hole is going to take some plugging!
that hole is going to take some plugging!
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Qantaslink
Having been out and about recently, it would seem there is a lot of work occuring during the day at H2. Who is doing this ? Contractors or staff ?
Are the contractors only allowed to work there during the day.
I see from one of the posts that an ex employee is supposedly supervising these contractors - gutsy move by somebody who obviously doesn't give a flying
about anything but himself.
Why did he leave?
What do the Qantas engineers think of this contract labor - being used to cir-cum vent the protected action.
I hear through the grapevine that QL management are talking to the pilots who threatened PIA but have not heard if the same deal or anything has been offered to the LAME's.
Have management given up trying to solve the issues ?
I also hear and read that they are buying another operator and increasing its aircraft numbers. Why ? Do they intend to bring this operator over to the east coast to plug the void. Maybe it is to shaft the operator now being used as a charter to pick up the slack on their current routes.
VB/Skywest deal any news on where they intend to operate or will it be direct replacement for the routes the EMB170 used to do.
Are the contractors only allowed to work there during the day.
I see from one of the posts that an ex employee is supposedly supervising these contractors - gutsy move by somebody who obviously doesn't give a flying
about anything but himself. Why did he leave?
What do the Qantas engineers think of this contract labor - being used to cir-cum vent the protected action.
I hear through the grapevine that QL management are talking to the pilots who threatened PIA but have not heard if the same deal or anything has been offered to the LAME's.
Have management given up trying to solve the issues ?
I also hear and read that they are buying another operator and increasing its aircraft numbers. Why ? Do they intend to bring this operator over to the east coast to plug the void. Maybe it is to shaft the operator now being used as a charter to pick up the slack on their current routes.
VB/Skywest deal any news on where they intend to operate or will it be direct replacement for the routes the EMB170 used to do.
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hole is going to take some plugging!
Isamu,
The plug has been pulled, however the flow out is exceeding the flow in.
Third party maintenance - premium price for very average work.
Average number of aircraft on ground daily - 2. reason parts or manpower.
Managers in hangar over weekend - 2 taking up slack of their own making.
The plug has been pulled, however the flow out is exceeding the flow in.
Third party maintenance - premium price for very average work.
Average number of aircraft on ground daily - 2. reason parts or manpower.
Managers in hangar over weekend - 2 taking up slack of their own making.
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QLink parking lot
5 - U/S Q400
1 - U/S Q300
1 - U/S Q200
Not enough space H2 for the broken aircraft, all 3 bays hangar 2 full of busted QLink aircraft. Not a QLink engineer in sight, only managers and contractors, (Sat & Sun)
1 - U/S Q300
1 - U/S Q200
Not enough space H2 for the broken aircraft, all 3 bays hangar 2 full of busted QLink aircraft. Not a QLink engineer in sight, only managers and contractors, (Sat & Sun)