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Old 27th Nov 2011, 12:07
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It is what it is......

But loosely translated, I think it means YOU LOSE!

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Old 27th Nov 2011, 12:38
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managers perspective, you are what you are.....

I think it means YOU LOSE!
A tip..... stop thinking, it proves what we all know, you are as stupid as your postings
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 16:50
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Take Five

"They can give us more of the same but they will destroy themselves."

Unfortunately for us, these clowns are not the long term employees of Qantas. They come in for a few years and make more money in that time than you and I will make in a lifetime with the company. If they fail, they award themselves a bigger pay rise, and take a massive golden handshake, and move on to the next poor company.

Ultimately, we are the ones being destroyed by their actions.
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 20:04
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Is there any truth to the rumour that arbitration will NOT give us back-pay?
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 21:49
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Qantas to shelve new airline: report

Qantas is set to shelve its controversial plan to launch a new premium airline in Asia as Europe's economic turmoil hits the confidence of Qantas management on the project, the Australian Financial Review has reported.
The AFR said it could reveal that after a year of planning a multi-billion dollar investment in the subsidiary airline in both Singapore and Kuala Lumpur, Qantas executives would prefer to halt the captial-intensive project and instead focus on the safer option of an alliance with Malaysia Airlines.
Qantas' plans for its new Asian subsidiary caused union outrage, divided federal politicians and at the height of the union dispute resulted in the grounding of the airline's entire fleet followed by both parties being sent to arbitration at Fair Work Australia.
The unions have argued that the Asia tie-up would see Qantas move a substantial part of its operations overseas, costing local jobs, and called for job security to guaranteed in the industrial agreements.
So all this grief has been for nothing.
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 21:52
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Is there any truth to the rumour that arbitration will NOT give us back-pay?
That's what we've heard too....That FWA will "punish" both sides, this is to be our punishment, if this is true wondering what the companies punishment will be ?

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Old 27th Nov 2011, 21:56
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Qantas faces renewed takeover talk: report

Qantas Airways has become the subject of renewed speculation of a fresh takeover effort from a private equity bidder, possibly led by former chief executive Geoff Dixon and advertising executive John Singleton, according to a report by The Australian.
Mr Dixon, Mr Singleton and investment banker Mark Carnegie, under the umbrella of Global Aviation Asset Management, were rumoured to have expressed interest in Qantas three months ago, but reportedly backed-out amid concerns about the rocky global outlook.
However, the possibility of a private equity move for Qantas has remained the subject of speculation, both because of the drop in Qantas’ share price following the grounding of its fleet last month and renewed private equity activity.
The airline has reportedly assembled an internal team to address any corporate activity pointing to interest in the company.


The airliner’s shares, at $1.45 are only slightly above the company’s record low of $1.37 reached on October 5, while the $700 million offer for Spotless Group by Pacific Equity Partners has suggested that there may be private equity appetite for Qantas, even if the Global Aviation Asset Management group does not renew its interest, according to The Australian.
Interesting...
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 21:59
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Is there any truth to the rumour that arbitration will NOT give us back-pay?
That's what we've heard too....That FWA will "punish" both sides, this is to be our punishment, if this is true wondering what the companies punishment will be ?

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I guess all will be revealed at the meetings. But if the pay issue was resolved early on and FWA's arbitration is only on unresolved matters, how can they arbitrate against backpay?
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 23:47
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Just been on 3AW Victoria with the Money man that he is hearing Qantas may be subject to a takeover bid .
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 23:49
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Is there any truth to the rumour that arbitration will NOT give us back-pay?
Well Qantas would like that can then get rid of people at less cost.
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Old 28th Nov 2011, 00:43
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Managers Perspective said:
It is what it is......

But loosely translated, I think it means YOU LOSE!

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I've been to todays meeting.
I hate to admit this, IF this gets up MP is right
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Old 28th Nov 2011, 01:21
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MP true to tag

It is what it is......

But loosely translated, I think it means YOU LOSE!

MP
Qantas management today have costed their ideological decision to fight instead of negotiate with their staff at $250m. That cost doesn't include damage to brand, cost of disengaged staff, or future settlement costs.

Having trashed the airline (a topic the above is only a fraction of) all MP can come up with is "YOU LOSE". For QF management this has been a bit of a game to which they had access to the bank account to spend as they liked. They did but QANTAS WAS THE LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 28th Nov 2011, 01:21
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I've been to todays meeting.
I hate to admit this, IF this gets up MP is right
More information please ?

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Old 28th Nov 2011, 04:16
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Or one analyst trying to stir the market enough to offload his cheaply bought shares for a tidy profit.
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Old 28th Nov 2011, 05:09
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Any details of the deal allowed to posted here? I am not rostered on for any of the meetings.
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Old 28th Nov 2011, 05:23
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I cant remember it all but was something like

4 year deal full backpay

year 1 3%
year 2 level for all, level 16 comes in
year 3 3%
year 4 level for all, level 17 comes in

plus we all get a 1 point B1/B2 payment
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Old 28th Nov 2011, 05:53
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What is the 1 point B1/B2 payment?
Is it 1 service point if you have B1/B2 or 1 point in lieu of it?
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Old 28th Nov 2011, 06:48
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So all this grief has been for nothing.

he's coming across as a real drama queen,
did so with his grounding
again with the red q fiasco
then his many public announcements,
not least that he is in some gay relationship
the death threats, anzac day p.a.'s
the caring irish love of qantas' rich long history
sheesh, time to these clowns to go.

year 1 3%
year 2 level for all, level 16 comes in
year 3 3%
year 4 level for all, level 17 comes in
plus we all get a 1 point B1/B2 payment

and the industry standard annualised salary?
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Old 28th Nov 2011, 07:10
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buttmonkey1 and others that feel outrage at this deal, get yourself to a feedback meeting and cast your vote.

If you are not on shift, well how much do you really care?

Qantas WILL allow you on base/ramp to attend the meetings. Not being on shift is no excuse.

If you don't cast a ballot, you have NO say. Be that positive or negative. Be part of the process or s.t.f.u.
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Old 28th Nov 2011, 07:11
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Any update on redundancies and heavy maint?
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