Qf LAME EBA Negotiations Begin

[UP D Date]

Great Job

Great job FedSec, and all the executive, looks like management have once again underestimated our resolve and cohesion as a union, to get a fair and reasonable EBA. Keep up the good work !!

[BaronB]

can't really understand why everyone's getting worried about this distinction between 'strikes' and 'stop work meetings'. one way or the other, we're not going to work next week. doesn't really matter what you call it.

what about heavy though?

[Clipped]

I'm tired of the incompetence, lies, malice and indignation purported by these low lives.

I support my association because it is one of the last bastions of integrity in aviation maintenance in this country. That is, myself and my fellow LAME's whom certify for the safety for all who fly.

That is why this is the good fight.

Keep up the great work SP and team. You have widespread support to get these fools to reconsider their mindless position.

[amos2]

"I support my association because it is one of the last bastions of integrity in aviation maintenance in this country. That is, myself and my fellow LAME's whom certify for the safety for all who fly."


Hmmm!...I don't recollect the lame's showing any great support, if any at all, during the 89' pilots dispute! As a matter of fact most of the flight engineers, ex lame's, couldn't walk away from the pilots fast enough! And, of course, they were more than happy to fly with the, you know who's, without any concerns whatsoever!

What goes around comes around guys!!

[Clipped]

I'll bite ... a little.

'89 - different circumstances. In every way.

Talking with pilots nowadays, there is a comradery and unity in our collective purpose.

Very, very different than '89.

What goes around comes around guys!!

Not sure what you're alluding to and we will prevail. They will not have it all their way.

We are many, they are a few.

[amos2]

"89 - different circumstances. In every way."

So, why is "integrity in aviation" different today than it was in 89'?

"Talking with pilots nowadays, there is a comradery and unity in our collective purpose."

So, why did you lot not support us, indeed, act against us, in 89?

[ALAEA Fed Sec]

So, why did you lot not support us, indeed, act against us, in 89?

Who cares. It's not 89 and we won't all be resigning.

[Lean Sigma]

Our union in those days was in the pockets of the company.
Vastly different to the executive that we have today.

[amos2]

Well done, Steve!

You'll win a lot of supporters with that post!

You might even wish to retract it!?

[the rim]

amos2

hey mate I was around in '89 its a very different thing thats happening now ....for starters you blokes, i am sure you were short haul, were different to the international guys and did not have their support,and if I am correct did not ask for support from the LAME's,so cannot see the reason for your comment,are you just trying to stir up things between the ALAEA and the AIPA,because things are good between the two unions,we are all working towards a common outcome......

[the rim]

and lean baby NOT all fed ex members were company stooges so dont paint them all with the same brush......the rim

[ALAEA Fed Sec]

Notification number

5

Date of commencement of action

Thursday 7th July 2011.

Time of action

The first 2 hours of any regularly rostered shift that commences between 0100 and midday of that day.

Participants

All ALAEA LAME members who are rostered to commence work in Adelaide Line Maintenance.

Nature of action

A 2 hour work stoppage.

[ALAEA Fed Sec]

Notification number

6

Date of commencement of action

Thursday 7th July 2011.

Time of action

The first 2 hours of any regularly rostered shift that commences between 0100 and midday of that day.

Participants

All ALAEA LAME members who are rostered to commence work in Darwin Line Maintenance.

Nature of action

A 2 hour work stoppage.

[bandit2]

Steve shouldn`t you be in bed. Looks like Lyell will have to put out another letter!

[Disengagement]

It comes a time where a line in the sand has to be drawn, and I think that the great majority of hard working LAME would agree , and you will get the outspoken ones that are useless at their jobs that will follow the company line just to survive . They have no backbone and when go home to their children at night and teach them what is right and wrong , can only lie to them as they have no morals . But it is them that must live with their decisions and actions , like with WW1 and WW2 you may have decided not to fight but one day your children will ask WHY did not you fight for what was right and just ? That bloke is walking on ANZAC day march why aren't you.!!!
Everyone is accountable to one person , themselves and it comes down to that , you might join the matey matey club and feel good but really look around at who you now call your mates . Will they help you out in need or just let you go and feather their own nests just as you have done just have you have to get where you are .
Well done the ALAEA for taking on corporate greed and to all their members remember stand up for what is right and just and be the backbone of your Union .
STAND TALL AND PROUD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[blubak]

PR machine at it again!

We all know by now that we earn 4 times our normal hourly rate when we work overtime!!.Is there a manager in the house that can explain this to us or maybe it was supposed to be part of the great offer they put on the table a couple of months ago but wrote it in invisible ink.
They wonder why there is no 'engagement'-just shows how out of touch these idiots really are.

[ALAEA Fed Sec]

The start times are staggered. A member on a 4 hour call in can cover 2 persons taking a 2 hour stoppage. It's just double time but regardless, they have an option available to prevent service disruption.

[mcgrath50]

Steve was on 774 Melbourne drive show yesterday afternoon and thought he came off very well despite the fact the host seemed intent on making him look like the big bag guy disrupting everyones holidays!

[SpannerTwister]

Lies, Damn lies, Statistics

Originally Posted by Dargonfly

Take 2 hours off with your industrial action, and call in a guy to cover it, (Minimum 4 hour at double time equals 8 hours pay). That equals 4 times when I went to Primary school ?

Nice first post, So are you from QE Management or QF HR, or just some other planet far away from the land of reality, although some might argue that all three places are the same ?

I suppose your accounting methods also see our "wage" as what we take home in our pay packet each fortnight, not realising that 30% - 40% of that is penalty rates for working while you're tucked up snug and warm in your bed each night or at a mates BBQ on a Saturday evening or watching your kids play sport over the weekend.

But I digress ............

I fail to see how on this earth you can mix my wages with my fellow engineers wages and call it my wages !!

If I do not attend work for two hours I lose two hours pay.

What anybody else does or earns in no way affects what I earn, my pay packet is two hours short.

On the other side of the ledger, if management call me in for four hours, why they did so is of no concern to me, all I care about is getting paid as per our industrial agreement.

Whether or not the company is or is not paying someone else concerns me not one whit, I just require that they pay me what they owe me.

But in the interest of full disclosure, why don't you tell us about your pay deal with the company ?

How much is your annual salary (ours being an industrial agreement is a matter of public record), how much is your maximum annual bonus (ours is none) and what factors is your annual bonus contingent on (not applicable to the people actually doing the work on the floor / in the pilots seat / walking down the aisles serving the passengers / loading the bags ) ?

ST

[Take five]

2 x 2 = 4

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that a 2 hour stop work, during PIA, results in a loss of 4 hours pay minimum.

If this is the case, why are we not having 4 hour stop work meetings.