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So what is TFN going to say about the promised 100 new trainees per year through the Academy? Somehow I don't think it will happen. I believe the April course has been cancelled? Someone in the know care to speculate just how many people will a)start at the Academy and b)pass the course?
And why the hell do they call it the AsA Learning Academy? What the hell else do you do at an academy. Management w@nk words at their best.
Good luck to those instructors still there. And sorry to hear about the sideways moved delivery manager - top bloke who deserves much, much better.
Cheers,
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And why the hell do they call it the AsA Learning Academy? What the hell else do you do at an academy. Management w@nk words at their best.
Good luck to those instructors still there. And sorry to hear about the sideways moved delivery manager - top bloke who deserves much, much better.
Cheers,
NFR
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Iron Bar at 2113: In related news..........
Agreement has been reached tonight and threatened industrial action appears to be off.
Agreement has been reached tonight and threatened industrial action appears to be off.
On the Union website, an update from the president - at 0005 local said negotiation was still continuing.
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Don't worry everyone - TFN and CF have announced at senate estimates that with the 900+ controllers and 85% pass rate from the college they are now fully staffed.
hmmmm I have to say I am confused about those numbers.
But also - TFN is feeling very confident that everything will be settled soon!! Thank goodnesss... I was starting to feel concerned.
I don't know what is more sad... the fact that he can make it up as he goes along or the fact that the pollies don't bother to dig a little deeper on his figures to see the spin jockey underneath.
hmmmm I have to say I am confused about those numbers.
But also - TFN is feeling very confident that everything will be settled soon!! Thank goodnesss... I was starting to feel concerned.
I don't know what is more sad... the fact that he can make it up as he goes along or the fact that the pollies don't bother to dig a little deeper on his figures to see the spin jockey underneath.
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85% at the college is probably correct, on my course 9 out of 12 got through and on the previous course 12/12 got through. What he failed to mention was how many rated. that is another story... it really needs to be looked into, the disparity between the amount of people passing the college vs how many actually rate. Either the college does not prepare people enough or they are passing people who really shouldn't be passed so that TFN can say "we have an 85% pass rate", because in reality mate, you dont!
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THere is always some truth behind the figures - it is just the way the exec present them make them truly misleading. The way he said it in the senate certainly seemed like he was saying that 85% of trainees make it to be ATCs. CF piped up and said that there was "minor" attrition after the college but it was a pretty clear message that they had a very high success rate.
At the end of the day you can use figures to say whatever you need them to say - just pick the right figures to present and omit anything that seems to be in conflict.
A figure that can't be ignored is 94% of ATCs saying that they have had enough of the crap - and TFN has the nerve to front up to the senate and say that he is confident and that there will be no back down or cave in to the union. Does he get that it is his employees that have had enough? It is true TFN - running a company would be that much easier if it weren't for those damn employees doing the actual work.
At the end of the day you can use figures to say whatever you need them to say - just pick the right figures to present and omit anything that seems to be in conflict.
A figure that can't be ignored is 94% of ATCs saying that they have had enough of the crap - and TFN has the nerve to front up to the senate and say that he is confident and that there will be no back down or cave in to the union. Does he get that it is his employees that have had enough? It is true TFN - running a company would be that much easier if it weren't for those damn employees doing the actual work.
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I read the transcript on the Senate site. I have always thought that McGauran was a useless dunce, but my opinion now places him lower than that. However, I don't know what descriptive is lower than useless.
For background, I'd prefer to take the opinion on here, because it obviously comes from the people on the front line, rather than the spin that's generated by your "corporate betters". It seems to be a house of cards, yet no one in the media, government or anywhere else seems to want to listen. If a dumb-bum like me can sift through some of the claims and counter-claims and come to the conclusion that these guys are seriously incompetent, why can't those with better access to information? I mean, what happens if a deal is sealed and the inevitable outages still continue? Does the spin department put it down to the continued militancy of the recalcitrant minority? Maybe they are working that line now.
For background, I'd prefer to take the opinion on here, because it obviously comes from the people on the front line, rather than the spin that's generated by your "corporate betters". It seems to be a house of cards, yet no one in the media, government or anywhere else seems to want to listen. If a dumb-bum like me can sift through some of the claims and counter-claims and come to the conclusion that these guys are seriously incompetent, why can't those with better access to information? I mean, what happens if a deal is sealed and the inevitable outages still continue? Does the spin department put it down to the continued militancy of the recalcitrant minority? Maybe they are working that line now.
I don't know what is more sad... the fact that he can make it up as he goes along or the fact that the pollies don't bother to dig a little deeper on his figures to see the spin jockey underneath.
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And why the hell do they call it the AsA Learning Academy?
Either that or the manager demanded a more impressive business card/job title?
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WellConcerned.
Yes. You are correct.
That is all every ATC is getting. Spread your news far and wide.
Airservices win again. They should have big smiles on their dials.
Right?
Yes. You are correct.
That is all every ATC is getting. Spread your news far and wide.
Airservices win again. They should have big smiles on their dials.
Right?
992 service interruptions in 12 months. Not sure how many were PRM related but if there were 20 days PRM wasn't run because of insufficient ATC staff in Sydney then 20 days X $5million per day = $100million in direct additional costs to the airlines.
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Wasn't going to post but my curiousity got the better of me.....
Wasn't in yesterday (and not in today either!) so haven't heard the scuttlebutt... Anyone care to elaborate? Doesn't sound too promising....
Wasn't in yesterday (and not in today either!) so haven't heard the scuttlebutt... Anyone care to elaborate? Doesn't sound too promising....