Merged: ASA Staff Shortage
Airservices Australia has "won" the IATA Eagle Award twice, 1999 and 2005,
Since 1998 Eagle Awards have been given to leading airport operators and ANS provider organisations who demonstrated exceptional commitment to control infrastructure costs and related charges. Eagle Award winners are selected by a neutral and independent panel of aviation industry professionals.
Nothing about on-time performance, safety, customer service, customer satisfaction, staff satisfaction - its just about costs and charges.
Other winners have included LFV of Sweden, Airways Corporation of New Zealand, Estonian Air Navigation Services, The General Civil Aviation Authority of the United Arab Emirates, NAVCANADA, DFS Deutsche Flugsicherung and the Irish Aviation Authority.
Since 1998 Eagle Awards have been given to leading airport operators and ANS provider organisations who demonstrated exceptional commitment to control infrastructure costs and related charges. Eagle Award winners are selected by a neutral and independent panel of aviation industry professionals.
exceptional commitment to control infrastructure costs and related charges
Other winners have included LFV of Sweden, Airways Corporation of New Zealand, Estonian Air Navigation Services, The General Civil Aviation Authority of the United Arab Emirates, NAVCANADA, DFS Deutsche Flugsicherung and the Irish Aviation Authority.
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Hey TFN, some questions for you?
It is now the magical day where all our staffing issues are solved, yet I have been asked to do two AD's (overtimes) this week. What is going on?
Please don't tell me you are telling porky pies to your staff and the naive public!
Found those renegade ATC's yet?
Love your work and can not wait to hear who is to blame now we still have no staff.
When do you leave?
It is now the magical day where all our staffing issues are solved, yet I have been asked to do two AD's (overtimes) this week. What is going on?
Please don't tell me you are telling porky pies to your staff and the naive public!
Found those renegade ATC's yet?
Love your work and can not wait to hear who is to blame now we still have no staff.
When do you leave?
its just about costs and charges
Oh perhaps therein lies the problem.
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Staff giving up their days off to come to work to prop up an ailing air traffic control system. Staff satisfaction plummeting, on-time performance deteriorating as service interruption continue, safety (??), customer service nose diving, customer satisfaction at an all time low (??).
Is there any goodwill left?
The rest is a given
Staff giving up their days off to come to work to prop up an ailing air traffic control system. Staff satisfaction plummeting, on-time performance deteriorating as service interruption continue, safety (??), customer service nose diving, customer satisfaction at an all time low (??).
Is there any goodwill left?
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from www.civilair.asn.au
Media Release: Air Traffic Controller shortage fixed?
Monday, 01 September 2008
Today is the day Australia's chronic shortgae of air traffic controllers should officially end.
That’s the promise of Airservices CEO Greg Russell in an internal email to staff on July 30, responding to criticism of the agency’s inability to provide supervised airspace for flights over Australia.
Earlier, on May 28, Airservices told Senate Estimates hearings that Airservices was working to remedy the official shortfall of 21 air traffic controllers. Civil Air, the air traffic controllers’ association, is sceptical of Airservices’ claims and believes the real figure is more than 100.
Civil Air executive secretary Peter McGuane says Airservices was largely unsuccessful in its efforts to recruit overseas air traffic controllers, and last week was exposed in the media for its impossible commitment to train a further 80-100 new ATCs each year for the next five years.
“Airservices has gutted the Melbourne training academy to save costs and doesn’t have the instructors or capacity to train anything like this number – currently recruits are filling time by teaching themselves on simulators without supervision from instructors,” he said.
“At the same time, Australian air traffic controllers and their families continue to head overseas for better pay and conditions. In the past two weeks alone a further four ATCs have accepted these offers, and more are anticipated.”
The current staffing situation – and the resulting periods of unsupervised air space, most recently yesterday in the Canberra area – are the direct consequences of Airservices failure to plan for the future, while indulging in corporate restructures that benefit their profit at the expense of service.
“Air traffic controllers will continue to work as rostered, except when legally barred from duty due to illness or certain prescription medication, and will continue to cover reasonable overtime – but they cannot fix a system that’s been stretched until it’s almost beyond repair.”
Peter McGuane, Executive Secretary 0412 538 336
Andrew Taylor 0411 156 797
Media Release: Air Traffic Controller shortage fixed?
Monday, 01 September 2008
Today is the day Australia's chronic shortgae of air traffic controllers should officially end.
That’s the promise of Airservices CEO Greg Russell in an internal email to staff on July 30, responding to criticism of the agency’s inability to provide supervised airspace for flights over Australia.
Earlier, on May 28, Airservices told Senate Estimates hearings that Airservices was working to remedy the official shortfall of 21 air traffic controllers. Civil Air, the air traffic controllers’ association, is sceptical of Airservices’ claims and believes the real figure is more than 100.
Civil Air executive secretary Peter McGuane says Airservices was largely unsuccessful in its efforts to recruit overseas air traffic controllers, and last week was exposed in the media for its impossible commitment to train a further 80-100 new ATCs each year for the next five years.
“Airservices has gutted the Melbourne training academy to save costs and doesn’t have the instructors or capacity to train anything like this number – currently recruits are filling time by teaching themselves on simulators without supervision from instructors,” he said.
“At the same time, Australian air traffic controllers and their families continue to head overseas for better pay and conditions. In the past two weeks alone a further four ATCs have accepted these offers, and more are anticipated.”
The current staffing situation – and the resulting periods of unsupervised air space, most recently yesterday in the Canberra area – are the direct consequences of Airservices failure to plan for the future, while indulging in corporate restructures that benefit their profit at the expense of service.
“Air traffic controllers will continue to work as rostered, except when legally barred from duty due to illness or certain prescription medication, and will continue to cover reasonable overtime – but they cannot fix a system that’s been stretched until it’s almost beyond repair.”
“At this stage, we anticipate this will achieve a full staffing complement by the end of August, with new controllers flowing into the system over the coming months. This is just the beginning of our increased recruitment activities with a further 80-100 ATCs to be recruited per year over the next five years. This is a central plank in the reform of the ATC core business.”
Media enquiries should be directed to: Peter McGuane, Executive Secretary 0412 538 336
Andrew Taylor 0411 156 797
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Not as far as we know.
But we understand that we will shortly be issued with new Gregorrian calanders, which are printed as follows
August 31
August 32
August 33
August 34
August 35 etc
in fact, if the number was'nt changing, you'd think there had been a printing error.
But we understand that we will shortly be issued with new Gregorrian calanders, which are printed as follows
August 31
August 32
August 33
August 34
August 35 etc
in fact, if the number was'nt changing, you'd think there had been a printing error.
I haven't been following this thread very much but let me make a guess about one thing....
In all the restructuring that has been going on, are there now more managers or less managers???
I think I already know the answer
In all the restructuring that has been going on, are there now more managers or less managers???
I think I already know the answer
I think there are now 107 ALM's. Dunno how many before that but I would say, 27 Tower managers, plus one manager per group. So maybe 50 all up? If that.
I'd say it began about 6 months ago....the tempo is just increasing.
Two from YMML TWR today, and four from Brisbane Centre.
Around 24 from Melbourne Centre in the last 9 months or so.
There's no problem at all. Move along, move along.....nothing to see here!
Get those Tonka Trucks/Four leaf clovers/lederhausen ready......
Two from YMML TWR today, and four from Brisbane Centre.
Around 24 from Melbourne Centre in the last 9 months or so.
There's no problem at all. Move along, move along.....nothing to see here!
Get those Tonka Trucks/Four leaf clovers/lederhausen ready......
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ASA accounting methods
minus 17 plus 2 from ML TWR, plus 4 from BN ENR = minus 11
YOU Beauty! we'll be over staffed before TFN knows it????????
By the way JH, what planet are you on?
Your Avnet forum posts would indicate that you have entered that alternative reality occupied for so long by your master.
What's with all that Gen Y rubbish, those kids are way to intelligent to be recruited into an organisation intent on self destruction! Why bother endevouring to make it a great place to work if you want rid of everyone after 5 years employment.
Its truly mind blowing stuff, ASA should indeed look to diversify into say, banking............ my mistake, we've already headed in that direction.
Surely its time for another Star Trek type episode, the amount of material now available is to overwhelming to ignore.
In anticipation.
BgTFN you are truly a
wit and must go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU Beauty! we'll be over staffed before TFN knows it????????
By the way JH, what planet are you on?
Your Avnet forum posts would indicate that you have entered that alternative reality occupied for so long by your master.
What's with all that Gen Y rubbish, those kids are way to intelligent to be recruited into an organisation intent on self destruction! Why bother endevouring to make it a great place to work if you want rid of everyone after 5 years employment.
Its truly mind blowing stuff, ASA should indeed look to diversify into say, banking............ my mistake, we've already headed in that direction.
Surely its time for another Star Trek type episode, the amount of material now available is to overwhelming to ignore.
In anticipation.
BgTFN you are truly a
wit and must go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why bother endevouring to make it a great place to work if you want rid of everyone after 5 years employment.
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Fully? So did I. We must have nearly run into one another.
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TFN and his minions are beginning to remind me of the last days of the little Austrian corporal.
Insiders to Bullsh#t Castle tell me that he hunkers down each day in his bunker (the Crisis Management bubble in the NOC) going over his view of how he and his drooling cronies are "running" air traffic management in this country.
He even has his own Propoganda Minister ("Vot are you sayink you stupid boy? Zey are not leafink, Ve are keepink zem all!!! and if zey do leaf, ve vill haf zem SHOT!!! Ve vill RULE ZE VORLD!!!")
The other parallel, of course, is that his soldiers in the field have been telling him for a long time that the plan will and cannot work, but he and his General Staff keep sticking to it.
TFN uber alles!!!
Insiders to Bullsh#t Castle tell me that he hunkers down each day in his bunker (the Crisis Management bubble in the NOC) going over his view of how he and his drooling cronies are "running" air traffic management in this country.
He even has his own Propoganda Minister ("Vot are you sayink you stupid boy? Zey are not leafink, Ve are keepink zem all!!! and if zey do leaf, ve vill haf zem SHOT!!! Ve vill RULE ZE VORLD!!!")
The other parallel, of course, is that his soldiers in the field have been telling him for a long time that the plan will and cannot work, but he and his General Staff keep sticking to it.
TFN uber alles!!!
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Rumour is there are another 3 in Melbourne that have offers for Germany!!
I am now convinced that everything is progressing according to Management plans...
Let the troublemakers leave/retire.
Change the recruitment/training process to ensure everyone passes.
Create generic "plug and play" ATC endorsements that are achieved with minimal on the job training.
Create an airspace model that will reduce the amount of staff required ie: Upper Airspace run on 2 consoles - 1 in Melbourne and 1 in Brisbane (I've heard that people in Canberra actually believe this is achievable!!)
Continue to apply the "big stick" to those that stay by "managing" those that dare to call in sick and effectively make overtime obligatory
Problem solved!
Of course anyone at the front line knows this will not/cannot be achieved, but we seem to be dealing with people who no longer have a firm grasp on reality...
I am now convinced that everything is progressing according to Management plans...
Let the troublemakers leave/retire.
Change the recruitment/training process to ensure everyone passes.
Create generic "plug and play" ATC endorsements that are achieved with minimal on the job training.
Create an airspace model that will reduce the amount of staff required ie: Upper Airspace run on 2 consoles - 1 in Melbourne and 1 in Brisbane (I've heard that people in Canberra actually believe this is achievable!!)
Continue to apply the "big stick" to those that stay by "managing" those that dare to call in sick and effectively make overtime obligatory
Problem solved!
Of course anyone at the front line knows this will not/cannot be achieved, but we seem to be dealing with people who no longer have a firm grasp on reality...
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Surely aircraft operators must be fed-up with all the TIBA/delays due staff shortages. Yet, things remain eerily quiet.
I'd like to see a dollar figure for all these delays. 5mins here, another 5mins there, day in, day out.
This mob at AsA bash us over the head about productivity.
I can only imagine what their management decisions are doing to national transport productivity as a whole.
Anyway, what would I know?
I'd like to see a dollar figure for all these delays. 5mins here, another 5mins there, day in, day out.
This mob at AsA bash us over the head about productivity.
I can only imagine what their management decisions are doing to national transport productivity as a whole.
Anyway, what would I know?