Air NZ may fly jets in regions
. It's a total over a couple of years though, I think.
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ATR awaits big Air NZ deal
By ROELAND van den BERGH - The Dominion Post | Monday, 31 March 2008
Regional aircraft maker ATR believes record fuel prices and lower domestic profits put it in the box seat to win a US$300 million (NZ$375 million) order from Air New Zealand.
The airline is evaluating a fleet of about 15 new ATR72-600 turboprops along with the Bombardier Q400X and the Embraer E-190 regional jet as a replacement for its existing 11 ATR72-500s.
Air New Zealand has delayed its decision on the purchase by two months till the end of May.
The French-built ATR boasts the most environmentally friendly credentials, burning less fuel, but is slower and smaller than the Q400X, a larger version of the Q300 Air New Zealand already has 23 of.
ATR's regional sales manager Laurent Negre said the environmental impact of a fleet was a key consideration for Air New Zealand.
Aircraft that used more fuel also produced more carbon emissions, which airlines would have to offset by buying carbon credits, potentially increasing the cost of fares.
"Having the most cost-efficient aircraft, and fuel-efficient aircraft in particular, certainly increases the gap versus other solutions," Mr Negre said.
Air New Zealand is positioning itself as a leader in the environmental debate and last it week launched a series of environmental initiatives, including a carbon offset scheme for passengers.
The airline is also considering the potential impact of increased domestic competition.
"It is a very important decision for Air New Zealand because the domestic market is very critical to New Zealand," Mr Negre said.
ATR had never been pushed off a route by a rival model, he said.
"It proves that it is quite a strong aircraft to have in your fleet when fuel prices are going up, when there is pressure on yields and on traffic possible from increased competition."
The E-190 was being considered if passengers were prepared to pay extra for the greater comfort of flying on a jet.
But though there were a few longer-distance domestic routes that would suit a jet, such as Auckland to Invercargill, the average route flown by the existing ATR fleet was only about 400 kilometres.
That was too short for jets to be used economically, Mr Negre said.
He conceded that Air New Zealand was keen to increase capacity, and the 68-seat ATR72-600 had 22 fewer seats than the Q400X and 36 fewer than the E-190.
But the potential arrival of more domestic competition could lead to network changes that favoured that ATR, he said.
ATR is trying to expand its presence in the South Pacific, and last year it opened a regional parts distribution centre in Auckland.
By ROELAND van den BERGH - The Dominion Post | Monday, 31 March 2008
Regional aircraft maker ATR believes record fuel prices and lower domestic profits put it in the box seat to win a US$300 million (NZ$375 million) order from Air New Zealand.
The airline is evaluating a fleet of about 15 new ATR72-600 turboprops along with the Bombardier Q400X and the Embraer E-190 regional jet as a replacement for its existing 11 ATR72-500s.
Air New Zealand has delayed its decision on the purchase by two months till the end of May.
The French-built ATR boasts the most environmentally friendly credentials, burning less fuel, but is slower and smaller than the Q400X, a larger version of the Q300 Air New Zealand already has 23 of.
ATR's regional sales manager Laurent Negre said the environmental impact of a fleet was a key consideration for Air New Zealand.
Aircraft that used more fuel also produced more carbon emissions, which airlines would have to offset by buying carbon credits, potentially increasing the cost of fares.
"Having the most cost-efficient aircraft, and fuel-efficient aircraft in particular, certainly increases the gap versus other solutions," Mr Negre said.
Air New Zealand is positioning itself as a leader in the environmental debate and last it week launched a series of environmental initiatives, including a carbon offset scheme for passengers.
The airline is also considering the potential impact of increased domestic competition.
"It is a very important decision for Air New Zealand because the domestic market is very critical to New Zealand," Mr Negre said.
ATR had never been pushed off a route by a rival model, he said.
"It proves that it is quite a strong aircraft to have in your fleet when fuel prices are going up, when there is pressure on yields and on traffic possible from increased competition."
The E-190 was being considered if passengers were prepared to pay extra for the greater comfort of flying on a jet.
But though there were a few longer-distance domestic routes that would suit a jet, such as Auckland to Invercargill, the average route flown by the existing ATR fleet was only about 400 kilometres.
That was too short for jets to be used economically, Mr Negre said.
He conceded that Air New Zealand was keen to increase capacity, and the 68-seat ATR72-600 had 22 fewer seats than the Q400X and 36 fewer than the E-190.
But the potential arrival of more domestic competition could lead to network changes that favoured that ATR, he said.
ATR is trying to expand its presence in the South Pacific, and last year it opened a regional parts distribution centre in Auckland.
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Pacific Blue starts southern link
10:30AM Wednesday April 02, 2008
By Grant Bradley - NZ Herald
Pacific Blue is in expansion mode. Photo / Brett Phibbs
Domestic airline competition is stepping up with the announcement Pacific Blue is to expand its network to include daily direct flights between Christchurch and Dunedin from July 1.
The airline said it would fly one daily return service between Auckland, Christchurch and Dunedin. All fares for the Dunedin service, including the special launch fares, go on sale from 9am today.
Special launch fares to Dunedin can be bought until Monday for the period from July 1 to August 31.
For a one-way trip booked on the internet the special fare from Christchurch is $39, from Wellington via Christchurch it is $69, and from Auckland via Christchurch $79.
The airline is getting a third Boeing 737 aircraft dedicated to the New Zealand domestic network in June.
Since its launch in November it has been flying just two aircraft along the main trunk.
Commercial general manager Adrian Hamilton-Manns said the Dunedin service would provide Air New Zealand with its first major competition to the city.
"When we started we said we would not just fly on the main trunk route but also go into the regions."
The airline was investigating expanding services to Invercargill, Hamilton and Palmerston North.
Pacific Blue said it had carried more than 300,000 passengers on its main trunk network in its first four months of flying.
Air New Zealand has boosted its capacity on domestic flights in February by nearly 10 per cent compared to a year ago, during which time there had been intense competition and fares as low as $1.
10:30AM Wednesday April 02, 2008
By Grant Bradley - NZ Herald
Pacific Blue is in expansion mode. Photo / Brett Phibbs
Domestic airline competition is stepping up with the announcement Pacific Blue is to expand its network to include daily direct flights between Christchurch and Dunedin from July 1.
The airline said it would fly one daily return service between Auckland, Christchurch and Dunedin. All fares for the Dunedin service, including the special launch fares, go on sale from 9am today.
Special launch fares to Dunedin can be bought until Monday for the period from July 1 to August 31.
For a one-way trip booked on the internet the special fare from Christchurch is $39, from Wellington via Christchurch it is $69, and from Auckland via Christchurch $79.
The airline is getting a third Boeing 737 aircraft dedicated to the New Zealand domestic network in June.
Since its launch in November it has been flying just two aircraft along the main trunk.
Commercial general manager Adrian Hamilton-Manns said the Dunedin service would provide Air New Zealand with its first major competition to the city.
"When we started we said we would not just fly on the main trunk route but also go into the regions."
The airline was investigating expanding services to Invercargill, Hamilton and Palmerston North.
Pacific Blue said it had carried more than 300,000 passengers on its main trunk network in its first four months of flying.
Air New Zealand has boosted its capacity on domestic flights in February by nearly 10 per cent compared to a year ago, during which time there had been intense competition and fares as low as $1.
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Good that our thread has woken up again! Though the original reason for starting this thread - AirNZ and RJs, the decision seems to be as far away as ever.
July 1 will be a good day for Dunedin. We trust it will not be a foggy day - sad if the ribbon ceremony is postponed because the plane cannot land that day. Fog should lift by Midday?
And July 1 is the time of icy roads in Dunedin - people will need to take care driving to the airport that day.
But, the start of a beautiful relationship between PB and Dunedin.
Now for Tiger in 2009.
July 1 will be a good day for Dunedin. We trust it will not be a foggy day - sad if the ribbon ceremony is postponed because the plane cannot land that day. Fog should lift by Midday?
And July 1 is the time of icy roads in Dunedin - people will need to take care driving to the airport that day.
But, the start of a beautiful relationship between PB and Dunedin.
Now for Tiger in 2009.
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AirNZ and RJs, the decision seems to be as far away as
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Those high oil prices and carbon emission costs have got to be weighing heavily in the minds of the Air NZ execs these days.... Maybe the fuel friendly ATR -600 will get the nod. Although not too sure if the extra benefits over the current 500 model justify $300 million.
Good news that PB is finally launching services to DUD although I would have expected at least two per day. Finally some new flights for the new terminal........
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Jets to the regions????
Q400's??
Or will MCA keep what they got until Bomba + ATR figure the streeeetchy versions???
Or ANZ decides if they really want another jet type in the company ie: ERJ??
Or will MCA keep what they got until Bomba + ATR figure the streeeetchy versions???
Or ANZ decides if they really want another jet type in the company ie: ERJ??
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Jets to the regions????
Q400's??
Or will MCA keep what they got until Bomba + ATR figure the streeeetchy versions???
Or ANZ decides if they really want another jet type in the company ie: ERJ??
Or will MCA keep what they got until Bomba + ATR figure the streeeetchy versions???
Or ANZ decides if they really want another jet type in the company ie: ERJ??
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For what its worth, this was in Monday's Australian Aviation newsletter:
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ATR is hoping to close a sale of 15 ATR 72-600s to Air New Zealand. The airline is believed to be also evaluating the Bombardier Q400 and Embraer E-190 as replacements for its fleet of 11 ATR 72-300s in service with Mount Cook Airlines.
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Report in today,s Otago Daily Times of the opening of the new Te Anau airport. Designed with planes up to 70 seats in mind, but able to accept some visits by planes up to 150 seats, the article said. I knew about the 70 seaters, but the 150 seaters would be once in a blue moon, I would think.
Do people need to fly into Te Anau? A very important tourist destination, but I would have thought one that people visit as part of a driving holiday Would it get its own ATR or Dash 8 service, or would the flights just tag on from Queenstown?
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Do people need to fly into Te Anau? A very important tourist destination, but I would have thought one that people visit as part of a driving holiday Would it get its own ATR or Dash 8 service, or would the flights just tag on from Queenstown?
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Report in today,s Otago Daily Times of the opening of the new Te Anau airport. Designed with planes up to 70 seats in mind, but able to accept some visits by planes up to 150 seats, the article said.
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Quoting directly from the ODT article ..."It has the capacity to host three operators, regular operational aircraft of up to 70 seats, with the occasional aircraft of up to 150 seats."
All this at an airport that cost $7.1 m. Sir Tim Wallace spoke at the opening.
Does occasional mean some diverts from Queenstown?
All this at an airport that cost $7.1 m. Sir Tim Wallace spoke at the opening.
Does occasional mean some diverts from Queenstown?
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"Strip width" of course refers to an obstacle-free area about a runway which for certification to handle P121 operations, is 150m. The runway, as opposed to "strip width" still requires a minimum of 45m (or 30m if you're giving one to the Director's Mrs 
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Does occasional mean some diverts from Queenstown?
Certainly if the answer is not many, and it is a viable alternate, it would be a much better proposal for the punters down the back than a divert to Invercargil and a 5 hour bus trip to Queenstown (I was almost on the receiving end of that years ago - was too young at the time to know much detail, but I think we did one missed approach and got in on the second one).
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Occasional could mean some Champagne charters for the rich people from Auckland or Sydney to fly into Te Anau on Property Inspections. Would there be enough room in the Airport Car park for all the limousines to take the rich people on their tour of the district?
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Manapouri/Te Anau is closed more frequently than QN due weather, mainly fog. Most cases when QN is closed MO is no better. NV is the logical alternate. I am sure that 5 hours by bus is a bit of an exageration.
For MO to improve it will require at least a VOR. Airways would like to dispense with the NDB which would leave a GNSS approach as a possible alternative but with NZ's present rules sole means GNSS is not permitted within the NZFIR.
Manapouri/Te Anau is closed more frequently than QN due weather, mainly fog. Most cases when QN is closed MO is no better. NV is the logical alternate. I am sure that 5 hours by bus is a bit of an exageration.
For MO to improve it will require at least a VOR. Airways would like to dispense with the NDB which would leave a GNSS approach as a possible alternative but with NZ's present rules sole means GNSS is not permitted within the NZFIR.
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"Strip width" of course refers to an obstacle-free area about a runway which for certification to handle P121 operations, is 150m. The runway, as opposed to "strip width" still requires a minimum of 45m (or 30m if you're giving one to the Director's Mrs )
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Latest Notam:
MANAPOURI (NZMO):
A0684/08 FROM: 15 APR 2008 03:25 TO: 04 JUN 2008 12:00
AD CLSD TO ALL OPS EXC THOSE SPECIFICALLY AUTHORISED BY
AIR FIORDLAND DUE TO EXTENSIVE RWY WORKS.
FOR OPR AUTHORISATION TEL AIR FIORDLAND 0-3-249 7505
RWY 08/26 NEW OPERATIONAL DATA AS FLW:
RWY SFC STRENGTH GP SLOPE ASDA
08 B PCN20 8 0.09D 1594
26 F/A/X/T 0.09U 1594
RWY TAKE OFF DISTANCE LANDING
1:20 1:40 1:50 1:62.5 DIST
08 1654 1654 1654 1594
26 1654 1654 1654 1425 1594
NOTE:
RWY 08 TKOF: TURN LEFT 10 DEGREES AFTER CROSSING AIRPORT BOUNDARY
RWY 26 TKOF: TURN LEFT 12 DEGREES AFTER CROSSING AIRPORT BOUNDARY
REF AIP NEW ZEALAND NZMO AD 2-51.1 AND 2-51.2 MANAPOURI OPR DATA
MANAPOURI (NZMO):
A0684/08 FROM: 15 APR 2008 03:25 TO: 04 JUN 2008 12:00
AD CLSD TO ALL OPS EXC THOSE SPECIFICALLY AUTHORISED BY
AIR FIORDLAND DUE TO EXTENSIVE RWY WORKS.
FOR OPR AUTHORISATION TEL AIR FIORDLAND 0-3-249 7505
RWY 08/26 NEW OPERATIONAL DATA AS FLW:
RWY SFC STRENGTH GP SLOPE ASDA
08 B PCN20 8 0.09D 1594
26 F/A/X/T 0.09U 1594
RWY TAKE OFF DISTANCE LANDING
1:20 1:40 1:50 1:62.5 DIST
08 1654 1654 1654 1594
26 1654 1654 1654 1425 1594
NOTE:
RWY 08 TKOF: TURN LEFT 10 DEGREES AFTER CROSSING AIRPORT BOUNDARY
RWY 26 TKOF: TURN LEFT 12 DEGREES AFTER CROSSING AIRPORT BOUNDARY
REF AIP NEW ZEALAND NZMO AD 2-51.1 AND 2-51.2 MANAPOURI OPR DATA