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Good work everyone, what a lovely response, cast your vote, (say your piece) and sit back and watch.
Good to see that momentum is starting to build.
Unity required, unity building!!
Good to see that momentum is starting to build.
Unity required, unity building!!
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go for it boys and girls,we got the same spin yr in yr out in relation to outsourcing HM syd ,we ate their sh!t sandwich and we still got shut down,nothing these pricks say has any truth ,do it for the people in H245 .GOOD LUCK
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A few things to consider: 1. If the vote gets up and industrial action is taken, we WILL improve the EBA offer. History proves this. 2. If the vote goes down, the first thing Ian and Sue will say to the ALAEA negotiating committee is: “you have misread your membership, the negotiation is over” and we will be stuck with the current offer. The negotiating committee needs your support to progress the negotiation. You need to consider this vote not so much as a vote for or against industrial action but more as a vote for or against acceptance of the current QF EBA offer. 3. Casting your own vote in the affirmative is only the first step. To use a QF phrase, you need to take “ownership” of this vote and encourage your colleagues to vote accordingly. Just remember, the ALAEA submitted to 3% outcomes for years and years but it still didn’t save Sydney HM. Nothing is different this time. Accepting 3% now will NOT guarantee your employment. QF are the first to admit that there are no guarantees ever. They will “work to the EBA” end of story. The exec have done their part, the ball is now in the memberships court. If the vote goes down, the membership will only have themselves to blame. Get active. Tell others to read PPRUNE and this thread. Print it out and take it to work. Rant over…
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quoted from said letter
this is not the time for a "wait and see attitude" please do not be swayed by peer pressure, but make a considered decision based on whether you support the business that does and will employ you in the future.
tell it to the h245 guys and girls who voted for effeicencies only to be shafted by you dc.
what you reap you sow, voted ,posted and telling the world. its now on the members heads so stop bitching and have your say.
this is not the time for a "wait and see attitude" please do not be swayed by peer pressure, but make a considered decision based on whether you support the business that does and will employ you in the future.
tell it to the h245 guys and girls who voted for effeicencies only to be shafted by you dc.
what you reap you sow, voted ,posted and telling the world. its now on the members heads so stop bitching and have your say.
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From todays Australian...
Move aside boys, nothing for us here..... the trough is for Dixons nose only. What an insult!
Qantas upgrades profit forecast
Staff writers | December 13, 2007
QANTAS upgraded its earnings outlook today, forecasting its fiscal 2008 profit to be around 40 per cent higher than last year.
The revised estimate would take annual group profit before tax to about $1.5 billion.
The airline had previously forecast in August an increase of about 30 per cent, Qantas (ASX: QAN: quote) said in a statement.
Shares in Qantas jumped as much as 5.4 per cent to $6.06 in early trade today. By mid-morning, the stock was up 4.5 per cent to $6.01.
“Since then Qantas’ operating businesses have continued to perform strongly, with the results for the first five months of 2007/08 above forecast and the forward booking profile also remaining robust,” chief executive Geoff Dixon said.
“This outlook remains subject to no significant deterioration in operating conditions including fuel prices and currency exchange rates.”
Staff writers | December 13, 2007
QANTAS upgraded its earnings outlook today, forecasting its fiscal 2008 profit to be around 40 per cent higher than last year.
The revised estimate would take annual group profit before tax to about $1.5 billion.
The airline had previously forecast in August an increase of about 30 per cent, Qantas (ASX: QAN: quote) said in a statement.
Shares in Qantas jumped as much as 5.4 per cent to $6.06 in early trade today. By mid-morning, the stock was up 4.5 per cent to $6.01.
“Since then Qantas’ operating businesses have continued to perform strongly, with the results for the first five months of 2007/08 above forecast and the forward booking profile also remaining robust,” chief executive Geoff Dixon said.
“This outlook remains subject to no significant deterioration in operating conditions including fuel prices and currency exchange rates.”
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As an AME in Heavy 'bring it on'. Although the overtime bans are going to hurt some of us AME's the bigger picture has to be seen as the 3% wage increases are a now going to be a thing of the past. We need a BIG union within Qantas like the ALAEA to break this pathetic wage increase when CPI increases have been well above 3%!
We are losing more and more LAME's each day, Virgin Tech, Cathay Pacific, Singapore Airlines and now John Holland down in Melbourne, why, because people are sick and tired working longer hours for bugger all wage increases. People are filling in for Supervisor's, Foremans and Managers with no replacements, enough is enough!
Stay united fella's like the nurses did with their dispute and lets show Qantas that 3% is no way a fare wage increase these days.
Look forward to when our EBA expires so that we too can go for a greater CPI increase!
Oh by the way tell them to stick their work flexibilities also!
We are losing more and more LAME's each day, Virgin Tech, Cathay Pacific, Singapore Airlines and now John Holland down in Melbourne, why, because people are sick and tired working longer hours for bugger all wage increases. People are filling in for Supervisor's, Foremans and Managers with no replacements, enough is enough!
Stay united fella's like the nurses did with their dispute and lets show Qantas that 3% is no way a fare wage increase these days.
Look forward to when our EBA expires so that we too can go for a greater CPI increase!
Oh by the way tell them to stick their work flexibilities also!
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Using a base of 100. This is the relative change earnings comparing Dixon, Aust Ave, QF Lame and the share price.
In 2003 the share price was around 3.8 to 4.9 range
Thus in 2003 all are 100
Dixon Aust Ave QF Lame Share Price
100.....100........100.........100
In 2007
152.....125........115.........135
Do you really think GD is being fair anyone. His relative take is greater than the return to share holders (not including div's). He is gangbusters against LAME's. I wonder where middle management would fair in this exercise.
Of course GD is unique. He is rates customers and employees as insignificant, "only the shareholders are important". So I doubt he will miss our overtime, higher duties and secondment in January. Perhaps GD will get a truck load of shareholders in to change a few wheels when needed?
I just wonder if Marg is thinking "you'd have to be mental not to take the 3%"
In 2003 the share price was around 3.8 to 4.9 range
Thus in 2003 all are 100
Dixon Aust Ave QF Lame Share Price
100.....100........100.........100
In 2007
152.....125........115.........135
Do you really think GD is being fair anyone. His relative take is greater than the return to share holders (not including div's). He is gangbusters against LAME's. I wonder where middle management would fair in this exercise.
Of course GD is unique. He is rates customers and employees as insignificant, "only the shareholders are important". So I doubt he will miss our overtime, higher duties and secondment in January. Perhaps GD will get a truck load of shareholders in to change a few wheels when needed?
I just wonder if Marg is thinking "you'd have to be mental not to take the 3%"
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perhaps we'd even settle for no pay rise at all.........
....as long as DC, MH, KM etc are all turfed out the door and replaced with quality managers......
hey, here's an idea, subcontract the management of ACS to Lufthansa, just like JTS in Tulla ?!
....as long as DC, MH, KM etc are all turfed out the door and replaced with quality managers......
hey, here's an idea, subcontract the management of ACS to Lufthansa, just like JTS in Tulla ?!
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Perhaps if GD and PG had kept there take to 3% the impending strife may have been averted. Why are they SO GREEDY? GREED GREED and more GREED. It makes me physically sick.
I see wonderful friends helping kids in need, cancer victims and kids suffering from abuse and them you see the GD's in the world. He is not alone and I don't want to sound personal there are plenty who's GOD is money. Lets hope we get a Gerry Harvey type CEO before not to long. Even bring back Tubby.
However even if they had shown restraint over the years this is by far the worst group of incompetent managers I have seen together for a while. I think individually there have been worse performers but as a group my memory can't remember a group to beat these.
I am afraid VR may have been a better option than what lies ahead for QF ENG.
I see wonderful friends helping kids in need, cancer victims and kids suffering from abuse and them you see the GD's in the world. He is not alone and I don't want to sound personal there are plenty who's GOD is money. Lets hope we get a Gerry Harvey type CEO before not to long. Even bring back Tubby.
However even if they had shown restraint over the years this is by far the worst group of incompetent managers I have seen together for a while. I think individually there have been worse performers but as a group my memory can't remember a group to beat these.
I am afraid VR may have been a better option than what lies ahead for QF ENG.
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BREAKING NEWS - COX WANTS ALAEA TO TAKE ACTION
You guys have it all wrong about DC's letter. He wants us to take action.
The letter is addressed to 'Dear Colleague'; a colleague is a peer. He then rants on about how we owe him and his cronies the world, blah, blah, blah, and appeals to us not to take action. But he ends with the wise words - 'Please do not be swayed by peer pressure...'.
Seeing that he has already classed himself as our peer (Aren't we lucky), he actually wants us not to be 'swayed' by the crap in his letter. Therefore, he wants us to take action.
I don't know how you could have misunderstood our mate so much!!!!!!!!!!
You guys have it all wrong about DC's letter. He wants us to take action.
The letter is addressed to 'Dear Colleague'; a colleague is a peer. He then rants on about how we owe him and his cronies the world, blah, blah, blah, and appeals to us not to take action. But he ends with the wise words - 'Please do not be swayed by peer pressure...'.
Seeing that he has already classed himself as our peer (Aren't we lucky), he actually wants us not to be 'swayed' by the crap in his letter. Therefore, he wants us to take action.
I don't know how you could have misunderstood our mate so much!!!!!!!!!!