HyperMerged: Q Engineering LAME EBA VIII/Industrial Strategies
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Wow! Crunch time is fast approaching! There was a time when I worried about my future at Qantas. Now I don't give a f^%#k at all. The place is fast going downhill.
Once the industrial action kicks in, there is bound to be disruption to services. I am confident that the association is planning a media statement to counter the inevitable attack that Cox will unleash through his own media statement. I have a suggestion.
The association should set up a website with factual information as to why its members are taking the action. Website hosting and domain names are cheap nowdays. something like QFacts.com.au (it's not taken!) The PPT that members received would be a good starting point. I have noticed that the print media tends to link to websites more often nowdays. It would be a chance to present a very clear and convincing case to the general public.
Once the industrial action kicks in, there is bound to be disruption to services. I am confident that the association is planning a media statement to counter the inevitable attack that Cox will unleash through his own media statement. I have a suggestion.
The association should set up a website with factual information as to why its members are taking the action. Website hosting and domain names are cheap nowdays. something like QFacts.com.au (it's not taken!) The PPT that members received would be a good starting point. I have noticed that the print media tends to link to websites more often nowdays. It would be a chance to present a very clear and convincing case to the general public.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this vote for Industrial Action related to advancing claims in the QF offered EBA? I just can't see how any improved offer is going to change the way LAMEs think about current management at this moment.
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What?
This is the LAME EBA v111 thread. The EBA has a VOTE! on at the moment
But I guess the vote could also be an indicator of the distrust and lack of confidence in the current management!
But I guess the vote could also be an indicator of the distrust and lack of confidence in the current management!
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How can you manage without the support of your troops?
Total disengagement of the workforce due to complete incompetence should result in a change of management to fix the problems
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The money is sad but they are trying to lower there cost base, its the workplace changes I object to, they could lead to carnage down the track.
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There are some days when I come to work and read the ususal garbage, management diatribe and RandS rubbish on my work email system but today was different. I and the others in the section p*ssed ourselves with the latest attempt by management to scuttle the EBA Industrial Action ballot over the email system with their usual threats of offshoring and loss of work. The latest gaff of course from none other than the usual Qantas overachiever in the propoganda stakes Mr David Cox.
To put this in perspective it must be understood that Mr Cox has sent this threatening email to all LAMEs at Qantas plus, every Engineering manager, DMMs, all Hr managers and Kevin Brown.
One ALAEA member decided that his utter rubbish deserved a response. Instead of hittig the reply button, it appears that the reply all has accidentely been hit. Response as follows-
Dear Sir,
My name is Bob ******. I'm a LAME in Brisbane Heavy Maintenance. I will keep this to te point.
Until now I was unsure which way I would vote in the upcoming ALAEA ballot. I no longer have any doubts. Your email, that I find both condescending and insulting, has convinced me that protected action is the only possible option. I will also encourage as many members of the ALAEA to pursue the same course of action.
Good one Bob, I don't think it will take long to convince others to support the action. It looks like Cox has done most of the work for you.
To put this in perspective it must be understood that Mr Cox has sent this threatening email to all LAMEs at Qantas plus, every Engineering manager, DMMs, all Hr managers and Kevin Brown.
One ALAEA member decided that his utter rubbish deserved a response. Instead of hittig the reply button, it appears that the reply all has accidentely been hit. Response as follows-
Dear Sir,
My name is Bob ******. I'm a LAME in Brisbane Heavy Maintenance. I will keep this to te point.
Until now I was unsure which way I would vote in the upcoming ALAEA ballot. I no longer have any doubts. Your email, that I find both condescending and insulting, has convinced me that protected action is the only possible option. I will also encourage as many members of the ALAEA to pursue the same course of action.
Good one Bob, I don't think it will take long to convince others to support the action. It looks like Cox has done most of the work for you.
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Don't think he accidently hit reply all mahatma.
Good on ya Bob
Did DC actually think that email would have a positive responce.
I certainly haven't haven't been strolling around telling the troops what a great offer they've put on the table.
Vote early and vote wisely
Good on ya Bob
Did DC actually think that email would have a positive responce.
I certainly haven't haven't been strolling around telling the troops what a great offer they've put on the table.
Vote early and vote wisely
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Have you got the Letter yet, what a sad sorry t$rd!
Copping the shyt in the mail today as well from this over rewarded buffoon.
Tragic he does not see the problem. Does not his most valuable assets deserve some reward and recognition as well.
Don't see him stumbling to accept 29% plus $3 million in shares for totally stuffing engineering!
Give it up Cox you blow your trumpet too often.
Tragic he does not see the problem. Does not his most valuable assets deserve some reward and recognition as well.
Don't see him stumbling to accept 29% plus $3 million in shares for totally stuffing engineering!
Give it up Cox you blow your trumpet too often.
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Don't worry before it really hits the fan he will pick up his marbles and move on to his next disaster and say "Well that never happened while I was in charge!"
Sound familiar....The corporate war cry. LOL
Sound familiar....The corporate war cry. LOL
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They still don't get it do they.
At the 11th hr they are threatening people!
Can you believe it!
Instead of going out and trying to mediate the situation
they are pulling the old QF heavy handedness.
WE ARE SICK OF YOUR BS DAVE!!!!!!
Nothing you have done has made the operation run
more efficently . GET IT
Where is the plan for the future dave?
Where is the shared vision dave?
There isn't any is there dave
all you have done is totally pissed your staff off dave!
In case you still don't understand it means that we
are all totally disengaged dave
You can talk the talk but you sure as hell
arn't walking the walk.
You and your so called leadership team have destroyed
engineering by your neglect and failure to listen to the
people who know the job.
You could have run the place like clockwork and saved
heaps of money.
Instead you listen to the wanna be's who will talk your
new world speel and tell you what you want to hear.
And worse you have put people who have no idea what
they are doing into management positions!
M what a goose!!!
You and your team are FRAUDS.
Tell me one thing that you have implemented that has
actually made us more efficiant or compeditive ?
Yeah that's right
NOTHING
So go on threaten me
You have told me for so long that you are going to send everything
offshore that I really don't care anymore
and all you are doing now is proving that you have
totally lost control
Well done dave!
At the 11th hr they are threatening people!
Can you believe it!
Instead of going out and trying to mediate the situation
they are pulling the old QF heavy handedness.
WE ARE SICK OF YOUR BS DAVE!!!!!!
Nothing you have done has made the operation run
more efficently . GET IT
Where is the plan for the future dave?
Where is the shared vision dave?
There isn't any is there dave
all you have done is totally pissed your staff off dave!
In case you still don't understand it means that we
are all totally disengaged dave
You can talk the talk but you sure as hell
arn't walking the walk.
You and your so called leadership team have destroyed
engineering by your neglect and failure to listen to the
people who know the job.
You could have run the place like clockwork and saved
heaps of money.
Instead you listen to the wanna be's who will talk your
new world speel and tell you what you want to hear.
And worse you have put people who have no idea what
they are doing into management positions!
M what a goose!!!
You and your team are FRAUDS.
Tell me one thing that you have implemented that has
actually made us more efficiant or compeditive ?
Yeah that's right
NOTHING
So go on threaten me
You have told me for so long that you are going to send everything
offshore that I really don't care anymore
and all you are doing now is proving that you have
totally lost control
Well done dave!
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I can't wait for the action to start........the planners had better set up a shortcut button on their PC's for printing DR&R's !!
Also, ACS boys, get ready for them to send out the SEM cavalry to do any engine work they can find..........and expect you LAME's to 'buy-back' their dodgy PE DR&R's......
.....but if it's up to their usual standard we'll be peeling plastic from the ducts a few days later...........
Also, ACS boys, get ready for them to send out the SEM cavalry to do any engine work they can find..........and expect you LAME's to 'buy-back' their dodgy PE DR&R's......
.....but if it's up to their usual standard we'll be peeling plastic from the ducts a few days later...........
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There's Lean Sigma......you can get a black belt! WTF
Then there is "The Bridge of Trust"....What as misnomer that is.
And Intelligent Space.......I wonder if DC has found any of that.
And there's probably lots more great stuff that has been done
I thought of one more.....The White Boards and the magnets....oh yes they were just great,
specially when the SLAMEs had to get out and make sure they were up to date before end of shift.
What a crock!
Then there is "The Bridge of Trust"....What as misnomer that is.
And Intelligent Space.......I wonder if DC has found any of that.
And there's probably lots more great stuff that has been done
I thought of one more.....The White Boards and the magnets....oh yes they were just great,
specially when the SLAMEs had to get out and make sure they were up to date before end of shift.
What a crock!
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There may be only 135 posts on this topic, but it has been viewed more than 9000 times. To those of you who do not post, no prob .... but be ACTIVE in casting this very important vote.
