No AOC for Skyairworld, delay for Solomon Airlines
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I must congratulate you too as you have always had so much information about SAW you must have a top position there.
Pity the Eithad contract did not work out as SAW would have had a ready made crew for another Airbus Contract but hey SAW already has that don't they.
Pity the Eithad contract did not work out as SAW would have had a ready made crew for another Airbus Contract but hey SAW already has that don't they.
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A few personal conflicts seem to be appearing - best they are put aside and the thread concentrated upon.
It appears that the latest "proving flight" didn't go as well as people appear to believe. Maybe the diversion from Honiara without a current forecast for the alternate did little to impress the regulators. The contractor is not in a position to fulfil its contractual obligations, pure and simple, and the Solomons Airline passengers are the losers with ad-hoc charters being arranged to fill the void. Consequnces of baggage left behind, uncertain departure times, missed connections et-al hardly allows what was a reasonable operation to instill confidence in the travelling public.
Methinks the AOC is still more a dream than a short term reality.
It appears that the latest "proving flight" didn't go as well as people appear to believe. Maybe the diversion from Honiara without a current forecast for the alternate did little to impress the regulators. The contractor is not in a position to fulfil its contractual obligations, pure and simple, and the Solomons Airline passengers are the losers with ad-hoc charters being arranged to fill the void. Consequnces of baggage left behind, uncertain departure times, missed connections et-al hardly allows what was a reasonable operation to instill confidence in the travelling public.
Methinks the AOC is still more a dream than a short term reality.
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Originally Posted by witwiw
It appears that the latest "proving flight" didn't go as well as people appear to believe. Maybe the diversion from Honiara without a current forecast for the alternate did little to impress the regulators. The contractor is not in a position to fulfil its contractual obligations, pure and simple, and the Solomons Airline passengers are the losers with ad-hoc charters being arranged to fill the void. Consequnces of baggage left behind, uncertain departure times, missed connections et-al hardly allows what was a reasonable operation to instill confidence in the travelling public.
Methinks the AOC is still more a dream than a short term reality.
Methinks the AOC is still more a dream than a short term reality.
And you wanted to take the "personal conflict" out of the thread???
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Think you will find that CASA have 5 working days to sign off on the application after a successful proving flight... that would probably mean AOC issued in the next few days.
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Originally Posted by Cargo744
Think you will find that CASA have 5 working days to sign off on the application after a successful proving flight... that would probably mean AOC issued in the next few days.
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Congrats to all the hard workers at SAW. Enjoy flying one of the nicest jets in Australian skies.
Its interesting to note that all the knockers seemed to disappeared for the time being. Perhaps they are regrouping to get on Airnorth, or Virgins case.
Its interesting to note that all the knockers seemed to disappeared for the time being. Perhaps they are regrouping to get on Airnorth, or Virgins case.
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Before you pat yourself on the back and say how wonderful everything is, spare a thought for the pax who have been lied to and mucked around for almost two weeks now. Some waiting two days for a flight and having to report multiple times to the airport for another round of lies
. As of today (Sunday) there is yet to be a revenue flight carried out by this aircraft. I'll believe it when i see it.
. As of today (Sunday) there is yet to be a revenue flight carried out by this aircraft. I'll believe it when i see it.
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DrunkenAir what do you mean by "Regulatory Problems" with the Airbus Jobs?
Are there "Regulatory Problems" because SAW doesn't have an Airbus Contract, or SAW is still trying very hard to pinch Airbus contracts from the 2 Australian Companies that hold Airbus Contracts?
Hey maybe SAW have "Regulatory Problems" with F100, F50, Boeing 737-200 and BAE 146 Jobs as well.
Are there "Regulatory Problems" because SAW doesn't have an Airbus Contract, or SAW is still trying very hard to pinch Airbus contracts from the 2 Australian Companies that hold Airbus Contracts?
Hey maybe SAW have "Regulatory Problems" with F100, F50, Boeing 737-200 and BAE 146 Jobs as well.
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Well Done SAW!!
Well done to all the hardworking team in SAW for getting past the AOC hurdle. This sort of success can only be truly appreciated by those who have had any prolonged dealings with any regulatory aviation organisation anywhere in the world.
As the saying goes, the caravan keeps moving on while the dogs continue barking! So let the dogs bark....
You have an excellent aircraft, workable business plan and from the guys I have met, a great enthusiastic team. Looking forward to reading of more successes in the near future.
As the saying goes, the caravan keeps moving on while the dogs continue barking! So let the dogs bark....
You have an excellent aircraft, workable business plan and from the guys I have met, a great enthusiastic team. Looking forward to reading of more successes in the near future.
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Ringbinder,
Some pretty harsh words against the Embraer. Particularly regarding a cabin that you've never flown in! Having flown and flown in both, I can tell you that the Embraer has the far more pleasant cabin. No middle seat, double bubble fuse for increased space at shoulder width, I'll take it any day thanks. Not sure where SAW get the 78 seats from though as I've only experienced 76 seat configuration. An extra two just doesn't make sense.
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Some pretty harsh words against the Embraer. Particularly regarding a cabin that you've never flown in! Having flown and flown in both, I can tell you that the Embraer has the far more pleasant cabin. No middle seat, double bubble fuse for increased space at shoulder width, I'll take it any day thanks. Not sure where SAW get the 78 seats from though as I've only experienced 76 seat configuration. An extra two just doesn't make sense.
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OK, I concede the point about extra shoulder width after the flight on Sunday, however it must be at the expense of the overhead locker size. A regulatory sized (international) carry-on bag finds it a bit of a squeeze unlike on the Spanish 737. Service much better than with the Spaniards (not hard to achieve) and I wasn't one of the passengers who had their checked-in bags (15 or so) left behind - and the flight wasn't exactly choc-a-bloc. What was the problem, lack of luggage space or lack of payload as the Embraer website suggested? If this is what regular travellers can expect then they will look to alternatives like OUR Airline (what sort of a name is that??) which also operates there. Big problem possibly is a lack of frequency which Solomon Airlines has all over them so they probably aren't really much of a threat.
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You are obviously one of those pax that makes it a pleasure to fly freight
It should be obvious that the Islands are not the place to make money and any attempt to put aircraft that can make money is a good thing.
You are obviously one of those pax that makes it a pleasure to fly freight
It should be obvious that the Islands are not the place to make money and any attempt to put aircraft that can make money is a good thing.