747-400 D check cancelled due to big announcment
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Originally Posted by wing surfer
looks like we know soon the annoucement is ment to be tonight about QF's plans and will find out tomorrow, good luck to us at H/M and if we go god help the rest because they can quite easy get outsourced workers in to replace SIT and SDT soon after.
some thing else to think about......
some thing else to think about......
have a guess where these LAME's may come from if HM is shut down,and there is no support shown by the rest of the Qantas Lame's.I will be the first in line to Fack the rest of the membership over if this happens.
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Notice that Dixon mentioned 767 maintenance in his off shoring speech on the sunday program?
Have ANZ and Qantas got a new supplier of manpower?
Or as the rumour goes tonight, That Boeing Have Bought The Brisbane HM Hangar?
Is Qantas and ANZ Going Boeing in Brissy?
And one more point for Woomera to answer if possible....on the suject of Banning BHMvictim,
Why did that deserve a five day ban but HotDogs blatant racism get off scott free?
(To Quote HotDog "Seeing as this thread has been totally hijacked, I might as well ask you BHM. You wouldn't be a gentleman of Middle Eastern appearance by any chance?")
Have ANZ and Qantas got a new supplier of manpower?
Or as the rumour goes tonight, That Boeing Have Bought The Brisbane HM Hangar?
Is Qantas and ANZ Going Boeing in Brissy?
And one more point for Woomera to answer if possible....on the suject of Banning BHMvictim,
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BHMvictim
You have five days to reflect on what you post in PPRuNe and to re read the rules you agreed to when you registered. Another similar post and we'll be bidding our final farewells - without further notice!
We will not permit your crude thuggery in PPRuNe.
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(To Quote HotDog "Seeing as this thread has been totally hijacked, I might as well ask you BHM. You wouldn't be a gentleman of Middle Eastern appearance by any chance?")
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Hot Dog, so what happens if the 747 heavy maint checks go to Taeco?The guys in Base Maint and Line maint will have to look a bit harder when they do their A checks because they don't have the guys in heavy maintenance backing them up on their D checks.
Aircraft will be grounded for weeks after these checks overseas.(they always are now so I can't see that changing). The last 767 that went to Singapore for a C check came back with 20+ hold items including an MEC that had a running leak. How it got signed out is an indication of the integrity of maint that gets carried out at these places. It may have had 20 hold items and some pretty serious defects but it did make schedule- Then sat on the ground in sydney for a few days while QF engineers picked up the pieces. I would expect a lot more of this if heavy maint goes overseas.
Hot dog, an MRO operating for 10 yrs is VERY inexperienced. I don't care if Boeing,Cathay,JAL or even GOD is involved, its the people on the shop floor who are able to do the best job of Quality Control. Qf Heavy maint would run rings around your MRO in terms of experience.
Aircraft will be grounded for weeks after these checks overseas.(they always are now so I can't see that changing). The last 767 that went to Singapore for a C check came back with 20+ hold items including an MEC that had a running leak. How it got signed out is an indication of the integrity of maint that gets carried out at these places. It may have had 20 hold items and some pretty serious defects but it did make schedule- Then sat on the ground in sydney for a few days while QF engineers picked up the pieces. I would expect a lot more of this if heavy maint goes overseas.
Hot dog, an MRO operating for 10 yrs is VERY inexperienced. I don't care if Boeing,Cathay,JAL or even GOD is involved, its the people on the shop floor who are able to do the best job of Quality Control. Qf Heavy maint would run rings around your MRO in terms of experience.
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For Christ sake Turbo, for the last time; I never said I agree with outsourcing heavy maintenance. I never tried to defend Qantas or Geoff Dixon. All I tried to do is to dispell the general concesus of the very few members of heavy maintenace that post on this forum, of painting this doomsday scenario about overseas MROs. I never lowered myself to trade personal insults or attacks at any of you just because you had a different opinion. Did I call you morons or idiots at any time? Think back to tech days, doing exams, RTFQ before you rush into the multi choice answer.
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Another thing 5B:
Reading back......
Quote:
Originally Posted by HotDog
...why not wait to see if outsourcing will happen and if it does, which MRO will get the contract.
Hotdog.
.... there are 3 strangers wearing balaclavas knocking at your front door.
One has a baseball bat.
One has a knife.
One has a gun.
Do you
a) Do all you can to prevent them entering and call the police?
b) Open the door and see what happens, and if one attacks you, which one will it be?
Landing gear pins huh? Thats gotta hurt!
Why did that deserve a five day ban but HotDogs blatant racism get off scott free?
(To Quote HotDog "Seeing as this thread has been totally hijacked, I might as well ask you BHM. You wouldn't be a gentleman of Middle Eastern appearance by any chance?")
What did you expect me to do? Shiver in my boots? I think my tounge in cheek reply is far more palatable than his would have been before he was banned.
This again is totally off topic and will only help to have a lock put on this thread. Not before time, I might add!
Reading back......
Quote:
Originally Posted by HotDog
...why not wait to see if outsourcing will happen and if it does, which MRO will get the contract.
Hotdog.
.... there are 3 strangers wearing balaclavas knocking at your front door.
One has a baseball bat.
One has a knife.
One has a gun.
Do you
a) Do all you can to prevent them entering and call the police?
b) Open the door and see what happens, and if one attacks you, which one will it be?
Landing gear pins huh? Thats gotta hurt!
Why did that deserve a five day ban but HotDogs blatant racism get off scott free?
(To Quote HotDog "Seeing as this thread has been totally hijacked, I might as well ask you BHM. You wouldn't be a gentleman of Middle Eastern appearance by any chance?")
What did you expect me to do? Shiver in my boots? I think my tounge in cheek reply is far more palatable than his would have been before he was banned.
This again is totally off topic and will only help to have a lock put on this thread. Not before time, I might add!
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Well it looks like the bird flu has not spared Qf manager types as a sick little birdie has divulged some good dirt (reliable source) The fat cats over in QCC are well aware how spineless the engineer types are when it comes to action and how many are willing to break ranks to better themselves (so they think) when it comes to knives in backs. Full force of IR reform to be implimented by all managers ASAP. Qf willing to wear some employee losses but know this will be minimal (reasons posted here, most will stay for less, especially with non existant carrots dangled). New structure heavily decimate SIT & SDT with resultant combined ex HM and Base to form revolving team based floating roster crews, covering line on reduced day shifts and overnight work on a sqewed heavily night shift oriented roster.
LA 1/2 A checks have been recieved well high up the totem pole, however with local licence coverage soon adequate enough, no more expensive jollies (sorry to those who missed out).
The only sticking point is those on secondment, especially the A380 project, announcement to come soon, some who haven't seen the business end of a spaner or worked a night shift in quite some time may have to earn their shift penalties soon.
LA 1/2 A checks have been recieved well high up the totem pole, however with local licence coverage soon adequate enough, no more expensive jollies (sorry to those who missed out).
The only sticking point is those on secondment, especially the A380 project, announcement to come soon, some who haven't seen the business end of a spaner or worked a night shift in quite some time may have to earn their shift penalties soon.
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Mate Geoff happy to have you he just thinks that you are paid to much
average pay in sydney $61,000
grade 3 lame no shift $51,000
cant you see you are too expensive
IM not sure what geoff gets paid but he seems to think it in line with the market
average pay in sydney $61,000
grade 3 lame no shift $51,000
cant you see you are too expensive
IM not sure what geoff gets paid but he seems to think it in line with the market
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Well Company Spy, the sooner those self indulgent r-slicker empire building idiots on the A380 project/OH & S/Training departments who are on secondment get pulled back on the floor and get a reality check the better. The only trouble is they probably won't remember how to throw a spanner. Then again it might give a little bit of feedbeck to the ALAEA as to the feeling on the floor considering a good percentage of these knobs are ALAEA reps who are only intent on feathering there own nests, but I doubt it.
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Lets hope Bungeye, that if/when they return to the fold they are not found wanting. A long time off the job could require some re-training. Guess who's doing gear lubes for the next 6 months.
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if our mate dixson complains about how much it costs to run heavy maint why is it that every part we order from stores we order cost $75 and if we send it back on a UCR then it costs another $75. so a .10 cent washer costs us $75.10.
go figure.
the other week when the D-check was canx it cost Heavy Maint over $50,000 more than likely $70,000. just in receiving and sending these items back for heavy maint (maybe it was a poly to push up the costs to justify what they are planning)
every time we log in to the computer system that QF gave us ( one that does not work) it costs engineering .30 cents works out to be around $50,000+ a week.
with these things over our heads no wonder it costs so much.
go figure.
the other week when the D-check was canx it cost Heavy Maint over $50,000 more than likely $70,000. just in receiving and sending these items back for heavy maint (maybe it was a poly to push up the costs to justify what they are planning)
every time we log in to the computer system that QF gave us ( one that does not work) it costs engineering .30 cents works out to be around $50,000+ a week.
with these things over our heads no wonder it costs so much.
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And every item of tooling used by all and sundry gets billed to H/M Line 1's books due to a dumb ass set up whereby GSE is under heavy maintenance and therefore picks up the costs of all the ground equipment repairs and GSE uses a booking number that sends the cost back to Sydney heavy maintenance. All the Brisbane tooling got costed to sydney. The H245 toolcrib is staffed by heavy maint but services base,domestic,and sit as well as H/m.
If H/M goes the costs of all the other work centres are going to suddenly jump.
Just think if a 10c washer costs $75 to deliver.....order 2 and send one back.
If H/M goes the costs of all the other work centres are going to suddenly jump.
Just think if a 10c washer costs $75 to deliver.....order 2 and send one back.
You poor bastards, your stuck with a "cost centre/profit centre" model. Cost and profit allocation in an airline is a blood sport, as is the setting of internal charges. You need a very good understanding of fixed and variable, direct and indirect costs to play this game, and from the sound of it, your $75.10 washer indicates something is wrong.
I very nearly got killed in the crossfire by managers playing this game at AN.
I very nearly got killed in the crossfire by managers playing this game at AN.
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heavy maint syd
is it true heavy maint sydney just got thrown a life line? by the governments announcements on the no open skies policy whats the news sydney on current events ? does this mean more bats in the cave ? questions questions questions and what is install for darthys spin doctors.
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its already been on the news that this may make no difference to maint going overseas any life line qantas throws will not be tied to something secure it will just be lose rope.:
