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catman617 14th November 2010 13:23

Books
 
hey dude,

im also learning and well the only real thing i have found so far is the 'How to Pass - Diagrammatic Reasoning tests' book. Really good. and they do work i have found. Written by Mike Bryon.

Hope all goes well for you.

gazb2 14th November 2010 15:54

Stage 1 at Prestwick on 3rd December @ 9am.

Very nervous - but also excited :)

Good luck to anyone/everyone sitting their tests.

Spyder35 15th November 2010 12:25

Anyone from 05/11/10 @ Prestwick heard anything at all yet?

sambatc 15th November 2010 12:38

the waiting game sucks, eh... :ugh:

Spyder35 15th November 2010 14:40

It doesn't half, especially given that initially I was convinced I had messed it up, but now as each day passes I'm starting to have some hope that "no news is good news". Fingers crossed!

Sofia ATC 15th November 2010 20:25

Hi guys!

Where can i find cube exercices???? I can not find like the ones in the exam anywhere!! I am desperate!!! help!!!!!Plz.

Eatofo 16th November 2010 08:32

Hi Folks

Recently completed the online assessment and was asked to book a date for my stage 1. When i tried there was no interview spaces available so emailed HR. This is the response i got:

Please be advised…

The number of selection centres for Trainee Air Traffic Controllers will reduce with effect from the 1st January 2011 until further notice. This reflects a reduction in Trainee opportunities over the past year and in consequence the longer lead times from selection to start of training for successful candidates.

Therefore:-

Stage 1 test dates will not be available until April 2011.

Stage 2 computer test dates will not be available during the months of March & April.

Stage 3 dates will be reduced in frequency but will continue to run every month at either Prestwick, Hurn and Swanwick.

We appreciate this will be a disappointment to many applicants and we will provide a further update in the spring. When new dates are added to the system you will be alerted by email. At this stage we can not advise you of or book you on dates for next year.


A little gutted here as was hoping to be in college by the time ill onl justy start my stage 1.

sambatc 16th November 2010 09:00

Sofia - I couldn't find any cubes exercises anywhere, either. Quite annoying really to not be able to get any practice at the hardest part of the assessment!!


Eatofo - that's terrible news, on a purely selfish note though it looks like I applied just in time :sad:

SecondTimeLucky 16th November 2010 09:26

Eatofo

Hi Folks

Recently completed the online assessment and was asked to book a date for my stage 1. When i tried there was no interview spaces available so emailed HR. This is the response i got:

Please be advised…

The number of selection centres for Trainee Air Traffic Controllers will reduce with effect from the 1st January 2011 until further notice. This reflects a reduction in Trainee opportunities over the past year and in consequence the longer lead times from selection to start of training for successful candidates.

Therefore:-

Stage 1 test dates will not be available until April 2011.

Stage 2 computer test dates will not be available during the months of March & April.

Stage 3 dates will be reduced in frequency but will continue to run every month at either Prestwick, Hurn and Swanwick.

We appreciate this will be a disappointment to many applicants and we will provide a further update in the spring. When new dates are added to the system you will be alerted by email. At this stage we can not advise you of or book you on dates for next year.


A little gutted here as was hoping to be in college by the time ill onl justy start my stage 1.
Hey,

When did you get this through from NATS? I'm a little curious as I had initially booked my stage 1 for early December but emailed them to ask to change to a date in January 2011 and they didn't mention what you've said.

Having said that, as a second time applicant its very frustrating there's now no chance of progressing anywhere till April 2011! Regret changing my stage 1 date now :{

Eatofo 16th November 2010 10:19

Second Tim Lucky

I emailed them yesterday asking for a date in January and received that as my response. At least i have lots of time to study now.

dcoliv 16th November 2010 10:41


Stage 2 computer test dates will not be available during the months of March & April.
Hi,

Thanks for the info. I will attend Stage 1 in early December, so, if I pass, hopefully I can attend Stage 2 in either January or February. From what I understand, Stage 2 will be off-limits only in March and April.

This is bad news though. Ouch.

Eatofo 16th November 2010 11:01

I emailed them yesterday and got the response today. Leaves me plenty of time to study i guess.

BarryK 16th November 2010 14:15

I think they ended up sending it to everyone, as I'm booked on a stage 2 on the 6th (and am I glad I got that booked!), and I got the same mail. I do hope this means that stage 3 isn't going to be made any more gruelling than it already is!

RGR-747 16th November 2010 23:01

Hi!

Anyone else for stage3 this thursday 18 of November at Prestwick???
Just good luck to everyone and hope to find some of you there!! :ok:

sambatc 17th November 2010 13:04

bah.....give me my results already! :ugh:

unrealdream 17th November 2010 13:17


Originally Posted by sambatc
bah.....give me my results already!

Seconded, I keep getting a little flutter of panic everytime I receive an email on my blackberry!

Stoffel_KT 17th November 2010 17:30

Anybody doing their Stage 2 on friday the 19th?
I'll be staying at the Red Lion in Fareham the 18th.... expect to arrive around 18.00....

sambatc 18th November 2010 08:19

unfortunately it's 15 working days.... so your deadline is the 26th. Mine's not till Dec 3rd (which is actually the day I fly to Thailand... and to think I was hoping to get stage 2 done before I went away! :rolleyes:)

Ellienmeg 18th November 2010 12:51

Hi all! Been reading through, well most of it anyway.

From what I gather, I think I will be too old to go for it. Is there an upper age limit?

Would my life experience of my current and previous jobs go towards my application? Also, I left school with only GCSE's, back in the days when no-one went to Uni. It's not looking good for me is it? Be honest.....:sad:

NDW 18th November 2010 13:36


Hi all! Been reading through, well most of it anyway.

From what I gather, I think I will be too old to go for it. Is there an upper age limit?

Would my life experience of my current and previous jobs go towards my application? Also, I left school with only GCSE's, back in the days when no-one went to Uni. It's not looking good for me is it? Be honest.....http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...y_dog_eyes.gif
Hi,

Regarding your age, I'm not 100% sure, however for NATS, they require only 5 GCSE's at A*-C (Inc. Maths & English and most likely a science).

Well its easier for me to say, I left school two years ago, and I only have 8 Good GCSE's (A*-C) and the rest are D's and E's :ugh:, luckily they are only in French and R.E.

I was accepted for stage 1 assessment with NATS, but I have had to pull out due to a personal situation, nothing serious though.

So if you are still within limits, give it a go, the worst that could happen is a 'NO', but also have you looked for any vacancies as a ATCA?

Kind regards

NDW

BarryK 18th November 2010 18:48

As I understand it, there was a legal challenge to the upper limit some time in the last year or two, as a result, it's been removed.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong...

Ellienmeg 18th November 2010 20:04

Thanks for that, hope there isn't an upper age limit as Im in pretty good health. Have applied online and done the online test so will just wait and see. Defo need to brush up on my maths. Previously have worked as cabin crew and Im currently an ADI, so hoping my experience here might help me think the way I should to be an ATCO. :ooh:

Jacko_1975 19th November 2010 10:31

Hi, I've just been invited to attend stage 1 tests etc, which going on the information in an earlier reply now won't be until April next year.
I have my reservations about taking this application any further as I'm 35 with 2 kids and a job which earns just above £37K.
Ulitmately I can't see how I could cope with the drop in salary if & when I ever made it to college, esp with a mortgage and a family to support
Is/Was anyone else in a similar position to myself? How have you coped? For me this seems like something that is ideal for someone that is fresh out of college uni not a guy in his mid 30's with a family

PhiltheReaper 19th November 2010 17:14

First Post:

Hi all, thanks for this thread, it has provided me with good insight.

I'm heading down for my Initial Stage testing on Tuesday, and I'm getting to grips with this information pack. (again, great information provided in this thread).

I have one question though: "How important is it to know all the stats for all the aircraft included at the rear of the pamphlet?"

I'm struggling with all these numbers much more than any of the abreviations or dates from the rest of the information pack.

Cheers

dcoliv 21st November 2010 13:20


I have one question though: "How important is it to know all the stats for all the aircraft included at the rear of the pamphlet?"

I'm struggling with all these numbers much more than any of the abreviations or dates from the rest of the information pack.
Hello!

Well, I'd say it's very important. From what I've read in this thread, they tend to ask specific questions like that in the ATC Motivation Paper.

Instead of memorizing every detail, try to group the aircraft in different categories, e.g. the ones who are able to fly transatlantic and the ones who aren't. Just make up your own categories in order to memorize as easily as possible.

Best of luck! :ok:

PhiltheReaper 22nd November 2010 17:10

Thanks, I've made some progress. I know the Boeings and most of the Air Busses by heart. I'm ignoring the seating capacities for now, as there's just too many numbers!

Instead I'm trying to memorise to the closest 20-50 on each aircraft. so I have at least some idea of the number of passengers.

I'm SO SO motivated to be an ATCO, just wish I had a photographic memory!

hehe

Cheers again,
Phil

freedo50 22nd November 2010 23:44

I know it's a lot of information, but just try as hard as you can to memorise as much as you can. It's possible to know most of it, and keep it in your head for long enough for your needs. You will only need to retain it for long enough ot get you through the first set of tests, so no more than 2 hours.
I thought it was a ridiculous quantity of information, and I certainly didn't know all of it, but I knew most (80-90% I would say), and it was a great comfort going into the tests knowing that I already knew the answers to a significant portion of the questions.
The advice I would give you is to invite someone along with you when you go (e.g. a family member) and practice reciting all of the info for as long as you can stand it the day before, and the morning of the test. That's what I did, and the confidence it gave me was as helpful as the knowledge itself.

On another note, I have my S3 on the 1st December, and I was just wondering if anyone else here will be there on the same day?

PhiltheReaper 23rd November 2010 08:16

Yeah good shout on that I think. I've been overlooking the fact that I know all of the rest of the information. I'm just dodgy on the Props I think. I'll focus more on learning them, and also on being confident about the rest of the info pack!

Good luck on your Stage 3!

Phil

sambatc 24th November 2010 13:17

sooo..... 12 days, 8 of which were working, since my stage one, and probably another 9 till they bloody well tell me how I did :ugh: :ugh:

libertine_ss 24th November 2010 14:33

Hi, so i passed my stage 2, which im delighted about :)
Through reading through this thread i've noticed talk about tower visits, however this was only briefly spoken about at the Stage 2 assessments and through the hr emails i have no information about this. How do i go about booking a visit?

Skywards777 24th November 2010 18:01

I guess it's different at Prestwick as they were marking ours today whilst we were completing the next, and we should find out in a few days.

The first half (Motivation/Numeracy) was a doddle, not so sure about the cubes though. :{

TupiTupi 25th November 2010 13:02

Hi Sharmanat0r!
Congrats on passing Stage 1 and best of luck for December!!!
Keep me posted on how it goes! How are you preparing for Stage 2? I was thinking of the SkyTest cd but seems to be different opinions about this one in the blog! Anyone else has any suggestions?!
Thanks!

unrealdream 25th November 2010 14:29

2 weeks since I sat stage one... I guess I'll know one way or another sometime in the next 7 days! :S Talk about building the tension!

PhiltheReaper 25th November 2010 16:39

Hey guys! sat my Stage 1 yesterday! First half was a doddle, and passed it (phew) cubes was a bit "nails" !! Proper brain fry, but pretty fun really. Hope I passed it. I want this so so much! :O

I shall let you know when I've found out if I'm on to Stage 2!

Good luck you guys who're finding out in the next few days!

Phil

Dale9990 25th November 2010 16:42

Phil,

Where did you sit your stage 1?
I also attended my stage 1 yesterday at Bournemouth

(1st Post)
Dale

Skywards777 25th November 2010 17:09

As was I :ok:

sambatc 25th November 2010 18:13

skywards - it'll be more than a few days I'm afraid!

Fly Montana 25th November 2010 21:16

took my stage 1 on the 12th as well

this wait is killing me!!!!

flight111 26th November 2010 08:04

hi guys
 
I really need some help. I am about to attend stage 1 on 3rd december 9 am at prestwick.I am an international student doing Msc here in manchester. I already mentioned in my application that I will require a work permit if selected. Even though they had accepted the initial application, I am not sure what they gonna tell me on the day of stage 1:confused: If am not eligible then its a big waste of time and money travelling all the way to prestwick. It would be helpful if u guys have any information abt this.

HI EATO,
I had the same situation as yours. I got the exact same reply as you when i asked for a time slot in december.But now when I checked the interview schedule link there is still a date available which seems to have appeared after my request.I think the same will be available to you as well. Go to the interview schedule link once again and give it a try.
good luck:ok:

sambatc 26th November 2010 08:40

15 workin days up for Thunderdrive today..... god i hope they're not taking more than 15 days!


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