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Jerez Group
Would anyone be interested in a similar group for starting in Jerez in June?
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Hey guys,
I could really do with understanding a bit more about the industry before I progress with my application. I took the online tests on a whim and have been successful but I know nothing about being employed as an ATC. I understand that NATS is the 'agency' that provides ATCs to the majority of UK airports. However, I also understand that some airports don't use NATS verified agents. Is there another body that trains people in this sector? I know for example that Ireland run their own programme to provide ATCs for the 3 main airports. I saw ANS being talked about, do they train their own people specifically for Gatwick and Edinburgh? Also, do any of the credentials you earn with NATS give you the right to work for European/US airports or have they their own recruitment process? Sorry for all the questions. Just hoping someone on here is more educated on the topic than me. |
Originally Posted by Venyx
(Post 10111190)
Would anyone be interested in a similar group for starting in Jerez in June?
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chpmerlin;10113745]Satyricon
Thank you for all the information! So for the likes of airports throughout Europe, who is training and recruiting their ATCs? For example what would be the route to working at CDG? |
Anybody attending stage 2 next Monday (16th)
It will be my second attempt. First time I let myself down on DART by a couple of marks. Not entirely my fault but my family has pushed me towards applying again so fingers crossed this time is better! |
GSCEs
Hi all
Can anyone please tell me what happens if I went to school in a different country and as a result, I don't have GCSEs. I do have an educational certificate, but I could not find exactly what is it equivalent to in the UK. I did not take final exams from Maths though, as I could only choose one science subject and I went for Physics.Also, I believe that as English was only a second language, it is not classed as an equivalent for GSCE exam for sure. Anyone from abroad who is currently employed by NATS cares to give me a bit of an insight into this? Thank you |
Could someone that has been through Stage 3 at NATS recently send me a PM, please?
Thanks! |
Looking for some tips guys?
Hi! I am currently at stage 1 of my assessment and I'm about to take diagrammatic reasoning test as well as spatial reasoning test. I've had couple of practice attempts, turned out a bit better that I expected, but I'm slightly nervous, as the level of difficulty will most likely be higher that in the tests I've taken so far..
Sooo.. Do any of you have any tips with regards to these 2 tests? I would appreciate any help! Feel free to e-mail me at [email protected]. Thanks!! |
Originally Posted by Timpsi
(Post 10115664)
Could someone that has been through Stage 3 at NATS recently send me a PM, please?
Thanks! |
Originally Posted by Satyricon
(Post 10114082)
chpmerlin;10113745]Satyricon
Thank you for all the information! So for the likes of airports throughout Europe, who is training and recruiting their ATCs? For example what would be the route to working at CDG? |
so how much is the ATC education if someone was to take it privately? At Global ATS or somewhere else ?
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Just passed Stage 2, with the ATC, FEAST and DART.
Can answer some questions if you like;) |
Originally Posted by The Many Tentacles
(Post 10119346)
Be French for starters.
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Stage 3
So I passed stage 2. Absolutely delighted!
However, has anyone sat stage 3? I’m told there’s a further computer test and interview with competency based questions. Can anyone give further insight into the computer test and also maybe an example of the types of questions I’ll be faced with? Many thanks |
For those that passed Stage 2, at the time and during FEAST/DART, did you feel that you hadn't done enough to pass?
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Originally Posted by Richjonesy
(Post 10121129)
Can anyone give further insight into the computer test and also maybe an example of the types of questions I’ll be faced with? Passed stage 2 yesterday too, would appreciate any info on the above or a link to existing info :-) |
Originally Posted by BrentvdP
(Post 10120761)
Just passed Stage 2, with the ATC, FEAST and DART.
Can answer some questions if you like;) was there much maths related questions? if so what kind of maths was it? (speed distance time, fractions etc) and are there any questions on the aircraft types in the document that they give you? (what speeds/levels) Many thanks |
BrentvdP;
Thanks for responding. Much appreciated. Are all of the questions multiple choice? |
Yes they are
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BrentvdP;
When you say distances in the UK, is that in regards to the wake turbulence between aircraft? |
No just distance, thats it
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What are peoples experiences with the wait times for stage 3 results?
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Originally Posted by BrentvdP
(Post 10125907)
No just distance, thats it
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CTC 23rd May
Originally Posted by Caspian1
(Post 10097597)
I'm in the same position exactly. Not too worried, still two months away. I'll probably give it until 1st May before chasing them. Congrats by the way and look forward to meeting you on the course.
Cheers :) |
Did my stage 2 yesterday, I was the only one to pass FEAST in the whole group 😯
I feel like I made a few mistakes on the DART test but had nobody to compare with, anyone else feel like they made a few mistakes but still got through? |
@Aviation67 - I've not heard from NATS at all since the conditional contract was sent out. I was hoping for some further learning material to be sent out, as they hinted at in the correspondence.
Accommodation - I live in Winchester hence will cycle/drive from here. Your best bets for decent value accommodation are Southampton or Portsmouth. If you're from Stockport you are NOT going to like prices in the south! |
@ cunners7 - Yep, that feeling exactly. Seat of the pants the whole way. I think absolutely everyone who took/passed stages 2 and 3 would agree.
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Originally Posted by Caspian1
(Post 10130489)
@ cunners7 - Yep, that feeling exactly. Seat of the pants the whole way. I think absolutely everyone who took/passed stages 2 and 3 would agree.
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Originally Posted by Satyricon
(Post 10127916)
Theres being helpful and being vague...
I said it is just distances, this because they will ask you to estimate the distance between 2 cities within the UK. And about the wake turbulence, just remember the example in the booklet. |
Expect to be asked how to tell the time too, it is essential for avoiding action !
Schools in the UK Are Removing Analog Clocks Because Students Can't Tell Time |
Originally Posted by BrentvdP
(Post 10131490)
When you say distances in the UK, is that in regards to the wake turbulence between aircraft?
I said it is just distances, this because they will ask you to estimate the distance between 2 cities within the UK. And about the wake turbulence, just remember the example in the booklet. Can I just confirm the booklet attached to your email was: Version 3, 2nd February 2016? |
Distances
distances in atc probably refers to separation standards. In TC it’s 3 nm in AC it’s 5 miles. In tc it may extend to 5 miles after 80 miles from the radar head. I think, maybe wrong been a long time |
Originally Posted by Satyricon
(Post 10132547)
Thank you for that. I have to admit I have read nothing about distance between cities in the uk in my booklet.
Can I just confirm the booklet attached to your email was: Version 3, 2nd February 2016? |
Originally Posted by BrentvdP
(Post 10133143)
Yes it is that version. The information wasn't in the booklet however there were in my test 2 questions about it. Same as the calculations, they weren't in the booklet, but were on the test.
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Is anyone else attending the stage 2 assessment day tomorrow? |
Originally Posted by Aviation67
(Post 10129057)
Congrats on getting thorough, I also look forward to meeting you. I got sent my conditional contract about 3 weeks ago. Now I’m focusing on finding a place to stay near CTC, NATS have say they have contacts regarding accommodation, do you know anything of this yet or have you already sorted accommodation.
Cheers :) |
Has anyone who had their Stage 3 in April heard anything yet?
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Gloucester
Hey,
Does anybody know whether the training at Gloucester does both Area and Tower training? Or is CTC the only place that gives you the option of both? Thanks in advance! |
At the moment I believe Global can only do “Tower training”. In theory I suppose you could do a basic course there then go to CTC for an Area course. I would think this is unlikely because the course progression is Basic-Aerodrome-Approach Radar and it is easier for everyone involved to keep the same people on the course progression. Also if you have been accepted as a NATS TATC the “option” to choose which course you go on will not be down to you! Rgds AyrTC |
Originally Posted by AyrTC
(Post 10146629)
At the moment I believe Global can only do “Tower training”. In theory I suppose you could do a basic course there then go to CTC for an Area course. I would think this is unlikely because the course progression is Basic-Aerodrome-Approach Radar and it is easier for everyone involved to keep the same people on the course progression. Also if you have been accepted as a NATS TATC the “option” to choose which course you go on will not be down to you! Rgds AyrTC |
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