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Venyx 8th April 2018 13:37

Jerez Group
 
Would anyone be interested in a similar group for starting in Jerez in June?

Satyricon 10th April 2018 15:52

Hey guys,
I could really do with understanding a bit more about the industry before I progress with my application.
I took the online tests on a whim and have been successful but I know nothing about being employed as an ATC.
I understand that NATS is the 'agency' that provides ATCs to the majority of UK airports.
However, I also understand that some airports don't use NATS verified agents.

Is there another body that trains people in this sector?
I know for example that Ireland run their own programme to provide ATCs for the 3 main airports.
I saw ANS being talked about, do they train their own people specifically for Gatwick and Edinburgh?

Also, do any of the credentials you earn with NATS give you the right to work for European/US airports or have they their own recruitment process?

Sorry for all the questions.
Just hoping someone on here is more educated on the topic than me.

stupotk 10th April 2018 20:07


Originally Posted by Venyx (Post 10111190)
Would anyone be interested in a similar group for starting in Jerez in June?

Don’t see why not! If you do - drop me a PM and I’ll join!

Satyricon 11th April 2018 04:30

chpmerlin;10113745]Satyricon

Thank you for all the information!

So for the likes of airports throughout Europe, who is training and recruiting their ATCs?

For example what would be the route to working at CDG?

Richjonesy 11th April 2018 09:47

Anybody attending stage 2 next Monday (16th)

It will be my second attempt. First time I let myself down on DART by a couple of marks. Not entirely my fault but my family has pushed me towards applying again so fingers crossed this time is better!

Igi 11th April 2018 23:28

GSCEs
 
Hi all

Can anyone please tell me what happens if I went to school in a different country and as a result, I don't have GCSEs. I do have an educational certificate, but I could not find exactly what is it equivalent to in the UK. I did not take final exams from Maths though, as I could only choose one science subject and I went for Physics.Also, I believe that as English was only a second language, it is not classed as an equivalent for GSCE exam for sure.

Anyone from abroad who is currently employed by NATS cares to give me a bit of an insight into this?


Thank you

Timpsi 12th April 2018 10:42

Could someone that has been through Stage 3 at NATS recently send me a PM, please?

Thanks!

carl8989 12th April 2018 13:47

Looking for some tips guys?
 
Hi! I am currently at stage 1 of my assessment and I'm about to take diagrammatic reasoning test as well as spatial reasoning test. I've had couple of practice attempts, turned out a bit better that I expected, but I'm slightly nervous, as the level of difficulty will most likely be higher that in the tests I've taken so far..
Sooo.. Do any of you have any tips with regards to these 2 tests? I would appreciate any help!
Feel free to e-mail me at [email protected].

Thanks!!

Richjonesy 13th April 2018 10:42


Originally Posted by Timpsi (Post 10115664)
Could someone that has been through Stage 3 at NATS recently send me a PM, please?

Thanks!

How did you find stage2? Any insight into the day was structured and what entailed would be appreciated!

The Many Tentacles 15th April 2018 17:06


Originally Posted by Satyricon (Post 10114082)
chpmerlin;10113745]Satyricon

Thank you for all the information!

So for the likes of airports throughout Europe, who is training and recruiting their ATCs?

For example what would be the route to working at CDG?

Be French for starters.

dFixxx3r 16th April 2018 19:18

so how much is the ATC education if someone was to take it privately? At Global ATS or somewhere else ?

BrentvdP 16th April 2018 23:11

Just passed Stage 2, with the ATC, FEAST and DART.

Can answer some questions if you like;)

Satyricon 17th April 2018 00:00


Originally Posted by The Many Tentacles (Post 10119346)
Be French for starters.

So they strictly employ French citizens?

Richjonesy 17th April 2018 09:47

Stage 3
 
So I passed stage 2. Absolutely delighted!

However, has anyone sat stage 3? I’m told there’s a further computer test and interview with competency based questions. Can anyone give further insight into the computer test and also maybe an example of the types of questions I’ll be faced with?

Many thanks

Satyricon 17th April 2018 16:06

For those that passed Stage 2, at the time and during FEAST/DART, did you feel that you hadn't done enough to pass?

JViatorMC 17th April 2018 17:25


Originally Posted by Richjonesy (Post 10121129)

Can anyone give further insight into the computer test and also maybe an example of the types of questions I’ll be faced with?

Congrats Rich,

Passed stage 2 yesterday too, would appreciate any info on the above or a link to existing info

:-)

Kcross123 18th April 2018 15:52


Originally Posted by BrentvdP (Post 10120761)
Just passed Stage 2, with the ATC, FEAST and DART.

Can answer some questions if you like;)

Hi,

was there much maths related questions? if so what kind of maths was it? (speed distance time, fractions etc)

and are there any questions on the aircraft types in the document that they give you? (what speeds/levels)

Many thanks

Kcross123 19th April 2018 10:37

BrentvdP;

Thanks for responding. Much appreciated.

Are all of the questions multiple choice?

BrentvdP 19th April 2018 19:40

Yes they are

Satyricon 19th April 2018 22:04

BrentvdP;

When you say distances in the UK, is that in regards to the wake turbulence between aircraft?

BrentvdP 21st April 2018 13:05

No just distance, thats it

BARRY_SCOTT 23rd April 2018 16:31

What are peoples experiences with the wait times for stage 3 results?

Satyricon 23rd April 2018 17:41


Originally Posted by BrentvdP (Post 10125907)
No just distance, thats it

Theres being helpful and being vague...

Aviation67 24th April 2018 18:11

CTC 23rd May
 

Originally Posted by Caspian1 (Post 10097597)
I'm in the same position exactly. Not too worried, still two months away. I'll probably give it until 1st May before chasing them. Congrats by the way and look forward to meeting you on the course.

Congrats on getting thorough, I also look forward to meeting you. I got sent my conditional contract about 3 weeks ago. Now I’m focusing on finding a place to stay near CTC, NATS have say they have contacts regarding accommodation, do you know anything of this yet or have you already sorted accommodation.

Cheers :)

cunners7 24th April 2018 18:30

Did my stage 2 yesterday, I was the only one to pass FEAST in the whole group 😯
I feel like I made a few mistakes on the DART test but had nobody to compare with, anyone else feel like they made a few mistakes but still got through?

Caspian1 26th April 2018 08:43

@Aviation67 - I've not heard from NATS at all since the conditional contract was sent out. I was hoping for some further learning material to be sent out, as they hinted at in the correspondence.
Accommodation - I live in Winchester hence will cycle/drive from here. Your best bets for decent value accommodation are Southampton or Portsmouth. If you're from Stockport you are NOT going to like prices in the south!

Caspian1 26th April 2018 08:44

@ cunners7 - Yep, that feeling exactly. Seat of the pants the whole way. I think absolutely everyone who took/passed stages 2 and 3 would agree.

cunners7 26th April 2018 23:37


Originally Posted by Caspian1 (Post 10130489)
@ cunners7 - Yep, that feeling exactly. Seat of the pants the whole way. I think absolutely everyone who took/passed stages 2 and 3 would agree.

Yeah, I just got an email to say that I've passed stage 2, it's hard to judge how well you've done at the time and also it's easy to be self critical In these situations.

BrentvdP 27th April 2018 08:22


Originally Posted by Satyricon (Post 10127916)
Theres being helpful and being vague...

When you say distances in the UK, is that in regards to the wake turbulence between aircraft?

I said it is just distances, this because they will ask you to estimate the distance between 2 cities within the UK. And about the wake turbulence, just remember the example in the booklet.

The Fat Controller 27th April 2018 08:34

Expect to be asked how to tell the time too, it is essential for avoiding action !

Schools in the UK Are Removing Analog Clocks Because Students Can't Tell Time

Satyricon 28th April 2018 13:05


Originally Posted by BrentvdP (Post 10131490)
When you say distances in the UK, is that in regards to the wake turbulence between aircraft?

I said it is just distances, this because they will ask you to estimate the distance between 2 cities within the UK. And about the wake turbulence, just remember the example in the booklet.

Thank you for that. I have to admit I have read nothing about distance between cities in the uk in my booklet.

Can I just confirm the booklet attached to your email was: Version 3, 2nd February 2016?

Exdshurtsbad 28th April 2018 19:12

Distances
 
distances in atc probably refers to separation standards. In TC it’s 3 nm in AC it’s 5 miles. In tc it may extend to 5 miles after 80 miles from the radar head. I think, maybe wrong been a long time

BrentvdP 29th April 2018 08:57


Originally Posted by Satyricon (Post 10132547)
Thank you for that. I have to admit I have read nothing about distance between cities in the uk in my booklet.

Can I just confirm the booklet attached to your email was: Version 3, 2nd February 2016?

Yes it is that version. The information wasn't in the booklet however there were in my test 2 questions about it. Same as the calculations, they weren't in the booklet, but were on the test.

Satyricon 29th April 2018 12:33


Originally Posted by BrentvdP (Post 10133143)
Yes it is that version. The information wasn't in the booklet however there were in my test 2 questions about it. Same as the calculations, they weren't in the booklet, but were on the test.

Oh, well that's worth knowing, thanks for the heads up BrentvdP and well done on getting through Stage 2.

Erakat 29th April 2018 15:17

Is anyone else attending the stage 2 assessment day tomorrow?

djblu1980 2nd May 2018 12:36


Originally Posted by Aviation67 (Post 10129057)
Congrats on getting thorough, I also look forward to meeting you. I got sent my conditional contract about 3 weeks ago. Now I’m focusing on finding a place to stay near CTC, NATS have say they have contacts regarding accommodation, do you know anything of this yet or have you already sorted accommodation.

Cheers :)

I would take a look at spareroom.co.uk or wait until you know is on your course and maybe share a house. It isn't cheap near CTC. You will be lucky to get anything for less than £350 a month. NATS give an allowance towards this of £60 a week.

BARRY_SCOTT 2nd May 2018 18:20

Has anyone who had their Stage 3 in April heard anything yet?

ATCkmmbbh1 14th May 2018 12:11

Gloucester
 
Hey,

Does anybody know whether the training at Gloucester does both Area and Tower training? Or is CTC the only place that gives you the option of both?

Thanks in advance!

AyrTC 14th May 2018 15:47

At the moment I believe Global can only do “Tower training”. In theory I suppose you could do a basic course there then go to CTC for an Area course. I would think this is unlikely because the course progression is Basic-Aerodrome-Approach Radar and it is easier for everyone involved to keep the same people on the course progression.
Also if you have been accepted as a NATS TATC the “option” to choose which course you go on will not be down to you!
Rgds
AyrTC

ATCkmmbbh1 14th May 2018 21:20


Originally Posted by AyrTC (Post 10146629)
At the moment I believe Global can only do “Tower training”. In theory I suppose you could do a basic course there then go to CTC for an Area course. I would think this is unlikely because the course progression is Basic-Aerodrome-Approach Radar and it is easier for everyone involved to keep the same people on the course progression.
Also if you have been accepted as a NATS TATC the “option” to choose which course you go on will not be down to you!
Rgds
AyrTC

That makes sense - thanks for explaining!


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