Would make sense, I’m from Perth and they offered me any date I wanted (Monday) |
Good evening peeps.
Was part of this discussion some time ago but have been otherwise engaged for some time now. I've been invited to the assessment centre in September, as I now see, have a lot of other people here. Does anyone have any good idea or resources that might help in preparation for the Assessment Centre? I'm going to have to fly into Melbourne for this, and even though it's two months away I'm nervous as hell. Would love any tips from anyone who's sat the day in the past. Good luck to everyone :) |
Hi all,
Received my confirmation letter yesterday (Monday), I'm interstate (we got first preference) so I'd expect you guys to be receiving yours sometime this week |
I'm from Victoria and only got a call a few days ago regarding an invite to the assessment centre, and wasn't offered the monday so it seems that they are offering the monday to interstate candidates.
Is it really true that as little as 50 candidates would have been selected from the 2000 that applied? Has anyone been to the assessment centre in the last 12ish months, would be good to get some relatively fresh idea of what the day consists of! I'm also surprised at how quickly I heard back regarding the invite, I was expecting a long wait, also no OPQ so I'm not really sure what is happening! |
Originally Posted by Ansible
(Post 10203813)
Good evening peeps.
Was part of this discussion some time ago but have been otherwise engaged for some time now. I've been invited to the assessment centre in September, as I now see, have a lot of other people here. Does anyone have any good idea or resources that might help in preparation for the Assessment Centre? I'm going to have to fly into Melbourne for this, and even though it's two months away I'm nervous as hell. Would love any tips from anyone who's sat the day in the past. Good luck to everyone :) It's a pretty fun day, very full on but all the staff assessing you are really approachable and knowledgeable. They're all trained controllers. First, know you are ALWAYS being assessed. You'll have downtime in between tasks, but there is always at least one member of staff there to talk to. So talk to them! Heaps of the other candidates there on my day would just sit there in silence which I think is a pretty poor look. The assessors are also very sneaky, for example at one point I was in the waiting room with only one staff member there (all the other candidates had other assessments), so I had a chat with her for twenty minutes. My next assessment was my panel interview. The HR person comes in and calls my name and, sure enough, the staff member I've been chatting to stands up as well, walks with me to the room and commences the interview. They started the interview before I realised it was happening! You need to meet a minimum standard in every assessment criteria. This was my undoing, I got excellent marks in all areas except one. It was the the "simulation exercise", which is actually an A3 piece of paper with a runway on it and some toy planes and firetrucks for you to move around. They make you memorise a set of rules and then throw problems at you for you to solve. What I did not expect is that the assessors will actively try to sabotage you by suggested solutions that breach the rules you were meant to memorise, so if you follow their advice you will fail. I got every one of my scenarios correct but it just didn't occur to me that they would suggest failing solutions, so I allowed them to trick me twice before realising what they were doing, but it was too late. What you need to do is be confident and assertive and deny them if they suggest that you breach a regulation. Obviously, do some more practice cognitive tests, including quick arithmetic. You're going to be tested on all that on the day. Good luck! |
Originally Posted by phlegm
(Post 10207299)
I was invited to an assessment centre about two years ago so I can shed a little light on it.
It's a pretty fun day, very full on but all the staff assessing you are really approachable and knowledgeable. They're all trained controllers. First, know you are ALWAYS being assessed. You'll have downtime in between tasks, but there is always at least one member of staff there to talk to. So talk to them! Heaps of the other candidates there on my day would just sit there in silence which I think is a pretty poor look. The assessors are also very sneaky, for example at one point I was in the waiting room with only one staff member there (all the other candidates had other assessments), so I had a chat with her for twenty minutes. My next assessment was my panel interview. The HR person comes in and calls my name and, sure enough, the staff member I've been chatting to stands up as well, walks with me to the room and commences the interview. They started the interview before I realised it was happening! You need to meet a minimum standard in every assessment criteria. This was my undoing, I got excellent marks in all areas except one. It was the the "simulation exercise", which is actually an A3 piece of paper with a runway on it and some toy planes and firetrucks for you to move around. They make you memorise a set of rules and then throw problems at you for you to solve. What I did not expect is that the assessors will actively try to sabotage you by suggested solutions that breach the rules you were meant to memorise, so if you follow their advice you will fail. I got every one of my scenarios correct but it just didn't occur to me that they would suggest failing solutions, so I allowed them to trick me twice before realising what they were doing, but it was too late. What you need to do is be confident and assertive and deny them if they suggest that you breach a regulation. Obviously, do some more practice cognitive tests, including quick arithmetic. You're going to be tested on all that on the day. Good luck! What have you described is the old assessment centre simulation activities and while I understand you would not know this, the assessment centre is completely different from years past and does not include the mentioned simulation. The new simulations have been developed over the last year or two and are a thousand times better to assess with when compared to the paper simulations. I don't know any further details about it, so please don't ask - I simply do not know. And Phlegm, with that, I'd seriously urge you to re-apply if you've been thinking about it. The way Airservices do their assessments are completely changed and may be exactly what you need to prove you can do the job. To everyone out there - the best way to prepare for the assessment centre is to work on your interviewing skills. Go pay for a lesson or two on interviewing and questions answering and you will be more confident and much better spoken on the day. The simulations cannot be studied for and for good reason. Best of luck to all. TRI223 |
Assessment centre is running this week, hopefully someone sheds a bit of light on how it goes :)
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Hey guys! I completed the assessment centre day this week! It was a really fun day...! and I have to say the same as what others have already said... there is nothing you can do to prepare. The testing is common sense stuff and they want to see how you react in certain situations... I personally feel the tests are designed in such a way that you can’t ace it or get 100%, instead it feels like the want to understand your logical thinking processes and see how far you get before dropping out etc. As for how I went...? They said nothing on the day and said will contact us over the coming few weeks with the outcome :) |
Testing Day
Glad to hear it’s fun Kmat, Goodluck! |
Thanks for providing some insight. Did they tell you what the start date is for the current successful applicants? I have asked every time I have been in contact with Airservices but not received a direct answer other than a few months.
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Hey Guys I have completed the assessment centre day in this week too. It's a fun day and all the assessors are very nice and friendly! However, half of our candidates on that day including me got sent home at about midday. So I am wondering if it's good or bad news, because I was expecting some more tests during the day. I personally think it's not a good news as we didn't have panel interview etc. Is there anyone else who had similar situation? And good luck to all those people who made into assessment centre, it's a great achievement already to walk that far. Good luck to all!
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Originally Posted by andy1011
(Post 10212380)
Thanks for providing some insight. Did they tell you what the start date is for the current successful applicants? I have asked every time I have been in contact with Airservices but not received a direct answer other than a few months.
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Originally Posted by hohoisme
(Post 10212405)
Hey Guys I have completed the assessment centre day in this week too. It's a fun day and all the assessors are very nice and friendly! However, half of our candidates on that day including me got sent home at about midday. So I am wondering if it's good or bad news, because I was expecting some more tests during the day. I personally think it's not a good news as we didn't have panel interview etc. Is there anyone else who had similar situation? And good luck to all those people who made into assessment centre, it's a great achievement already to walk that far. Good luck to all!
How many people attend the day? |
Originally Posted by kmat
(Post 10211811)
I personally feel the tests are designed in such a way that you can’t ace it or get 100% |
Originally Posted by pilotwings
(Post 10218004)
Has anyone who attended an assessment centre last week heard anything yet/ had their assessment status updated?, Been the longest week of my life.
I was at the assessment centre last week and also haven’t heard anything. No call, email or application status update. You’re right about it being a long week! |
Originally Posted by kmat
(Post 10218673)
Hi pilotwings, I was at the assessment centre last week and also haven’t heard anything. No call, email or application status update. You’re right about it being a long week! |
Assessment Centre
Finally confirmation today that I'm in, congratulations to anyone else who made it and commiserations to those that missed out.
Those that have described the assessment centre day regardless of how long ago, have done it justice. The tests may have been tweaked and changed here and there, but they all seem to be things that you can't really prepare for - just keep your head, stay calm and obey the rules stipulated |
Awesome work Jazzycab!
Have they offered you enroute or tower? |
Originally Posted by jazzycab
(Post 10224068)
Finally confirmation today that I'm in, congratulations to anyone else who made it and commiserations to those that missed out.
Those that have described the assessment centre day regardless of how long ago, have done it justice. The tests may have been tweaked and changed here and there, but they all seem to be things that you can't really prepare for - just keep your head, stay calm and obey the rules stipulated Were you sent home early from the assessment day or were you kept all day? |
Also got accepted today into enroute, agree with jazzy on everything regarding the assessment day, the most valuable thing you can do to prepare is get a good night's sleep beforehand.
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Originally Posted by AKorol
(Post 10224108)
Awesome work Jazzycab!
Have they offered you enroute or tower?
Originally Posted by Vandelayy
(Post 10224125)
Congrats!
Were you sent home early from the assessment day or were you kept all day?
Originally Posted by pilotwings
(Post 10224310)
Also got accepted today into enroute, agree with jazzy on everything regarding the assessment day, the most valuable thing you can do to prepare is get a good night's sleep beforehand.
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Originally Posted by jazzycab
(Post 10224340)
Congratulations, when are you starting?
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Originally Posted by pilotwings
(Post 10224347)
1st of October, are you the same?
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Originally Posted by jazzycab
(Post 10224361)
No, I requested starting next year due to my current job, so I'm starting in January. Best of luck!
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Originally Posted by pilotwings
(Post 10224385)
Thanks mate you too, almost doesnt feel real.
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help needed with Airservice Australia recruitment process
(thanks for moving my post to where it should be, I'll go through all previous post.)
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Originally Posted by philosophrenic
(Post 10226938)
(thanks for moving my post to where it should be, I'll go through all previous post.)
Hi all, I'm in the process of Airservices ATC trainee application process and looking for advise and help. I have made it through the first 2 steps and is about to attend the whole day assessment in MEL facility in September. Can anyone speculate the selection rate of this step and/or the previous steps? Any tips on this assessment day, like what's involved and what preparation will be great. TIA! |
Originally Posted by philosophrenic
(Post 10226938)
(thanks for moving my post to where it should be, I'll go through all previous post.)
Hi all, I'm in the process of Airservices ATC trainee application process and looking for advise and help. I have made it through the first 2 steps and is about to attend the whole day assessment in MEL facility in September. Can anyone speculate the selection rate of this step and/or the previous steps? Any tips on this assessment day, like what's involved and what preparation will be great. TIA! pilotwings is correct in the fact that you are only competing against yourself. If you have what it takes, you’re through... I attended the assessment centre two weeks ago and one of the assessors said they were “hoping to get 13 or 14 through” out of the 50 that attended over the week. This would be an approximate rate of 25% who get through. With that said, each assessment centre would surely have a different outcome in terms of numbers. Good luck in September. |
Originally Posted by kmat
(Post 10227558)
Hi Philosophrenic, pilotwings is correct in the fact that you are only competing against yourself. If you have what it takes, you’re through... I attended the assessment centre two weeks ago and one of the assessors said they were “hoping to get 13 or 14 through” out of the 50 that attended over the week. This would be an approximate rate of 25% who get through. With that said, each assessment centre would surely have a different outcome in terms of numbers. Good luck in September. I have already booked a cheaper hotel off the airport area and a rental car. As I see their facility is to the east of the field and I don't feel like jogging in my interview outfit. Anyone been there think my plan is viable? Without a permit, I'm afraid that I can't park at their facility. If that's the case, Uber will be my plan B, as advertised. |
Originally Posted by philosophrenic
(Post 10226938)
(thanks for moving my post to where it should be, I'll go through all previous post.)
Hi all, I'm in the process of Airservices ATC trainee application process and looking for advise and help. I have made it through the first 2 steps and is about to attend the whole day assessment in MEL facility in September. Can anyone speculate the selection rate of this step and/or the previous steps? Any tips on this assessment day, like what's involved and what preparation will be great. TIA! |
Hey everyone!
Thanks everyone for sharing their experiences and knowledge about the ATC recruitment process. I also got a call last week about a month after doing the online testing inviting me to an assessment centre on the 8th October. It seems they're running a few of these assessment days. I think this one might be for interstate applicants (I'm from Tasmania)? Anyone else coming to Melbourne on this day? |
Now I'm trying to arrange a meet & chat on Sept 16, the Sunday evening right before the assessment week. Anyone whose flight scheduled to land in MEL before 6:00pm Sept 16th and is interested, plz pm me. so far we got one confirmed and one interest beside myself.
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Laudable idea to meet up prior - but lay off the grog completely the night before the assessment if you can, and ensure you get good rest. Even if you're not feeling the effects of a hangover or whatever, it will affect your performance in some way. You want to give yourself every chance to be at the top of your game for this!
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I have a question regarding the documents you are supposed to bring to the assessment centre. The email asks for a Certified copy of a Pilot Licence and/or Class 3 medical (if obtained). What if I do not have either of those? do I need to go and get a class 3 medical done, or do they not mind if you do not have it?
Thank you! |
Originally Posted by Track Shortener
(Post 10229353)
Laudable idea to meet up prior - but lay off the grog completely the night before the assessment if you can, and ensure you get good rest. Even if you're not feeling the effects of a hangover or whatever, it will affect your performance in some way. You want to give yourself every chance to be at the top of your game for this!
BTW, the ATC unit where I used to work overseas, recently got breath analyzers due to some incident that uninpressed the boss. |
Originally Posted by a.adams
(Post 10229617)
I have a question regarding the documents you are supposed to bring to the assessment centre. The email asks for a Certified copy of a Pilot Licence and/or Class 3 medical (if obtained). What if I do not have either of those? do I need to go and get a class 3 medical done, or do they not mind if you do not have it?
Thank you! |
Interesting to see that nobody is discussing what happens at the assessment centre anymore.....is it deliberately kept a secret, or do people feel some sort of 'candidate's honour' in not revealing what happens behind those closed doors? :)
Any insight or tips for anybody heading along? Even vague ones? |
Testing
Some of the previous candidates have eluded to the fact you may be better off walking in with an open mind than worrying about what might be coming. The assessment day is no different to the online psychometric testing, fail one and you fail the application process, so if you passed that, what’s stopping you from succeeding at the assessment day? Keep a cool head, get a good nights sleep and you’ll probably go ok! |
Having spoken to people who have been involved in the recruitment process in the past, people who have been pre-briefed tend to stand out like the proverbial and it definitely hasn't done them any favours.
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Interesting. Thanks for the feedback!
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