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thecox321 2nd Jun 2023 03:36

Any one had any updates since assessment centres in early May?

rmak 3rd Jun 2023 02:06


Originally Posted by thecox321 (Post 11444494)
Any one had any updates since assessment centres in early May?

Submitted references on may 12.
recieved email from Airservices saying they received references on may 25.
no updates since

exiflame 3rd Jun 2023 13:22

If it's any help to you guys, my timeline from references onward is below:

Early Nov/2022 - XRef References go out
30th of Nov/2022 - Application on hold over holidays
Early April/2023 - Verbal offer
Mid April/2023 - Written offer & online onboarding
10th of July/2023 - Start date

From what I've read here, XRef is a pretty good sign you're through. (But I don't work for P&C so don't book flights over yet).

thecox321 7th Jun 2023 00:59

Yeah same here rmak just gotta stay patient I guess! Thanks for sharing your story too exiflame, hopefully our wait isn’t as long!

Turtlburger 7th Jun 2023 06:54

Jeez yeah. Four months in limbo sounds unpleasant.

exiflame 8th Jun 2023 13:36

It went quickly! And who knows, it could be a lot shorter for you guys without the holiday shutdown slowing down P&C.

Zoidberg24 9th Jun 2023 09:56

They mentioned an October enroute intake at the assessment centre and a Dec tower potentially.
Hopefully most of us are in either of those and find out in the next month or two.

JimmiCavera 9th Jun 2023 21:28


Originally Posted by exiflame (Post 11445187)
If it's any help to you guys, my timeline from references onward is below:

Early Nov/2022 - XRef References go out
30th of Nov/2022 - Application on hold over holidays
Early April/2023 - Verbal offer
Mid April/2023 - Written offer & online onboarding
10th of July/2023 - Start date

From what I've read here, XRef is a pretty good sign you're through. (But I don't work for P&C so don't book flights over yet).

Thanks for sharing this. If you don't mind me asking, were you asked to do your medical before the verbal offer? If so, where did it fit in the timeline you mentioned?

JimmiCavera 9th Jun 2023 21:30


Originally Posted by Zoidberg24 (Post 11448291)
They mentioned an October enroute intake at the assessment centre and a Dec tower potentially.
Hopefully most of us are in either of those and find out in the next month or two.

When I was at the assessment centre, they only mentioned that there was the October, December and February intakes mentioned. I don't remember them mentioning for which streams each one was, and so thanks for sharing what the streams are for October and December. By chance do you remember if they mentioned what stream the February intake was?

Zoidberg24 10th Jun 2023 06:22


Originally Posted by JimmiCavera (Post 11448622)
When I was at the assessment centre, they only mentioned that there was the October, December and February intakes mentioned. I don't remember them mentioning for which streams each one was, and so thanks for sharing what the streams are for October and December. By chance do you remember if they mentioned what stream the February intake was?

Nah man no idea sorry, only mentioned the Oct and Dec at the one I went to

rmak 10th Jun 2023 06:48

Can confirm I was also told to expect October or December during my interview. They didn’t mention whether it was for different streams.

rmak 23rd Jun 2023 08:40

Wondering if anyone else received a call today?

Zoidberg24 23rd Jun 2023 08:58


Originally Posted by rmak (Post 11455494)
Wondering if anyone else received a call today?

Nah last thing was an email on the 13th saying they will be in touch over the next few weeks.
If calls have started going out today hopefully everyone from the may assessments gets a call in the next week for some of these end of year courses.

Nedgo 23rd Jun 2023 10:18

Has anybody else received an email recently saying there are no more assessment centres planned until late this year?

exiflame 23rd Jun 2023 13:11


Originally Posted by rmak (Post 11455494)
Wondering if anyone else received a call today?

If you have heard of offers going out they could be reserve places being called up for the courses beginning July 10. I haven't heard of anyone dropping out at this stage however.

thecox321 25th Jun 2023 23:41


Originally Posted by rmak (Post 11455494)
Wondering if anyone else received a call today?

Congratulations! So you got a verbal offer? When do you start?

I haven't heard anything yet, anxiety definitely ramping up a little but hopefully hear something soon if others are getting calls!

Bruce Kent 26th Jun 2023 06:41

I'm in! Received a verbal offer today after missing a call on Friday. I'm in an en-route course starting 23rd October in Melbourne. They confirmed I'll be placed in Melbourne Center if/when I get through the training. Good luck to all those still waiting, I hope you get a good news call soon!

thecox321 26th Jun 2023 06:46

Yeah ended up getting a call today as well. October 23 course En Route, with Brisbane final destination...

ATCQuestions 26th Jun 2023 07:03

Just curious, did you request for Brisbane or didn't specify?

I also got a call today, starting 23rd October in Melbourne for Melbourne Centre.

Turtlburger 26th Jun 2023 07:23

Same here. Got the call for October en route.

Zoidberg24 26th Jun 2023 12:44

Congrats all,

Hoping to get a call this week then with some good news

Bruce Kent 26th Jun 2023 13:07

Cheering for you Zoidberg24! Looking forward to meeting you Turtlburger, ATCQuestions, thecox321, and everyone else who got the call. Congrats!

rmak 26th Jun 2023 15:39


Originally Posted by Zoidberg24 (Post 11457185)
Congrats all,

Hoping to get a call this week then with some good news

Did you preference tower?

Zoidberg24 27th Jun 2023 03:58


Originally Posted by rmak (Post 11457262)
Did you preference tower?

Nah, just had a preference for bris or melbs for either stream. Did mention I need 1 Friday off in early December for a wedding so hopefully I haven't stitched myself up

rmak 27th Jun 2023 07:12

Funnily like Bruce I missed the call on Friday and was left a message saying they would call again Monday but still haven’t received anything 😬🥲

PubliusNaso 27th Jun 2023 08:52

I wouldn't stress too much about that rmak, from memory I had the same thing and it took them 2 or 3 days to get back around to me. Lots for them to organise.

And congrats to everyone else getting the positive news!

exiflame 28th Jun 2023 01:36

Congrats everyone! I'll see you guys at the academy come October.

shean 28th Jun 2023 02:52

Haven't got a call yet for me :(
Just wondering did ASA request anyone to get a Class3 medical after this?

exiflame 28th Jun 2023 04:46


Originally Posted by shean (Post 11458032)
Haven't got a call yet for me :(
Just wondering did ASA request anyone to get a Class3 medical after this?

When I got my verbal offer, they suggested I get on it ASAP due to possible delays.

When I got my verbal offer months ago, P&C mentioned it'd take a few days to get in touch with everyone. From memory, I think I got my offer a little earlier than others I kept in touch with.

rmak 28th Jun 2023 05:22

Okay so apparently I got in, however there is no confirmed tower course start date yet so I’m told to sit tight for now. Anyone else pref tower?

shean 28th Jun 2023 05:38


Originally Posted by rmak (Post 11458066)
Okay so apparently I got in, however there is no confirmed tower course start date yet so I’m told to sit tight for now. Anyone else pref tower?

Nice! :O How did you find out that you are in if I may ask?

rmak 28th Jun 2023 07:32


Originally Posted by shean (Post 11458075)
Nice! :O How did you find out that you are in if I may ask?

Phone call

ATCQuestions 11th Jul 2023 22:09

Does anybody know the roster rotation for MEL enroute? I think I remember reading somewhere it might be 2 days, 2 night, 2 off repeating, but hoping someone can confirm.
Thanks :)

exiflame 12th Jul 2023 11:00


Originally Posted by ATCQuestions (Post 11465838)
Does anybody know the roster rotation for MEL enroute? I think I remember reading somewhere it might be 2 days, 2 night, 2 off repeating, but hoping someone can confirm.
Thanks :)

We're contracted for a 36 hour week (including breaks), but beyond that in the enroute environment the schedules vary wildly based on the group ("department"), stage of training, etc. I can only speak for my mate who's fully rated, but he does a big mix and match of morning and arvo shifts, with at max 2 overnights (doggos) per fortnight. Beyond that, he doesn't get all his days off in a row, and his schedule doesn't repeat weekly or anything like that.

Mix in some (somewhat compulsory) overtime, and you get your schedule. He likes his, and is at home a fair bit, so it works for him.


shean 13th Jul 2023 04:18

Hi there was wondering if anyone from the Brisbane assessment centre got a verbal offering yet?

PubliusNaso 13th Jul 2023 05:24

Rostering in general (from what I've heard, both from an ATC on the interview panel and an ATC friend-of-a-friend (so take with approximately 3 but no more than 5 grains of salt)) is largely organised by whatever group you're with - so for MEL enroute, basically the team that works that sector, within limits set by supervisors/FMS/etc and the need to cover the 24 hour period, but also with reference to when the busy periods are for that sector(s).

An example I was given is the 2/2/4(or is it 5? I think it was 4.) 2 mornings, 2 afternoons, 2 overnights, 4 days off which would look something like this:

Monday 06-14
Tuesday 06-14
Wednesday 14-22
Thursday 14-22
Friday 22-06
Saturday 22-06
Sunday not counted
Monday Off
Tuesday Off
Wednesday Off
Thursday Off
Friday 06-14 and repeat...

Of course, that's an idealised model roster. In addition to the (somewhat compulsory) overtime, people swap shifts to varying degrees depending upon the team and everything mentioned above.

That's my understanding at the moment. It could very well prove to be inaccurate!

shean 22nd Jul 2023 06:49

@Koola Did you end up getting the offer?

koola 23rd Jul 2023 23:04

shean Unfortunately I didn't get through. How did you end up going?

koola 24th Jul 2023 04:46

shean I didn't get an offer, unfortunately. How did you go?

shean 24th Jul 2023 06:39

Nah same for me didn't get it either, requested from them for a reason. Makes me wonder if anyone from Brisbane got through.
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