1. There is no age limit, however from experience people over the age of about 30 have a higher failure rate.

That being said older people can and do get through the training it just depends on the amount of effort the individual is prepared to put in.

2. Well I'm not sure about the averages on this one however I was able to find out for my course they had just over 1200 applications, about 400 were invited to the testing day's, about 120 were interviewed and 12 of us were offered training slots.

3. It really does vary from course to course i.e one course recently had all rate and another recently had all but one fail.

The average seems to be around the 50% mark give or take.

Dont let those numbers put you off, this really is the type of job you don't want to be doing if you are not suited to it and it's better to find out before you have thousands of lives in your hands.

However if you do make it through you will find it is a fantastic job if you can handle the shift work.

Thanks MelbATC for the info, don't have questions yet but I'll come back to the thread if something pops op... :)

I've heard a rumour there's a class starting in Brisbane next year instead of Melbourne. Anyone know anything about this, or received any offers for this course?

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Hey guys, recieved my offer via phonecall today. Its for the new Brisbane course starting 28th February. I agree, it was a bit of an anti-climax as I was kind ok looking forward to moving to melbourne but also glad that I've finally got a start date and can start planning my next 18 months.

Howdy,

I got the call today for the Brisbane course.
Croupsurf and television, we should catch up sone time before the course. Would be great to meet anyone else on the Bris course too. And naturally all the trainees heading south are more than welcome.

Guessing post Xmas will be easier for everyone.

Actual

Brisbane Course
 

ATC Actual, Croupsurf and Television,. I got verbal confirmation from Gemma today that I would be on the Brissie course which is fantastic news. Must definately catch up before hand. ATC actual you must be stoked and your mrs aswell.:ok:

Heh, if you're that disappointed about not going to Melbourne, I'll swap with you :P Apparently the people for the Brisbane course were selected at random....

Another one for the Brisbane course here! I was quite surprised and a little disappointed to not be moving down. I suppose there will be fewer delays in the sim this way! I call for a catch up as well. Hamo Hotel again?

ATC_intrain,

May I ask how long did you have to wait after your phone interview before receiving an email invitation to book your assessment day?

Thx

Hi Anu..

I got a call within a 2-3 weeks.... keep the faith man.... judging by the above notes.. I think we are way back in the schedule.... even if we make it... I dont expect the cource to start untill april or may:zzz:, coz the feb and late jan people are alreading being selected... if you know what I mean..:hmm:

Hi all,

Just got a email sayng........

Thank you for booking into our assessment centre in Melbourne.

Please note that all days are now fully booked for our Assessment Centre and you are not able to amend your date of participation through our online system. Please contact us if you are no longer able to attend on 02 6268 4868.

The Assessment Centre starts at 9.00am. Please arrive by 8:30am to ensure a prompt start to the day. The Assessment Centre venue address is:

Airservices Australia Security TAAATS Building
212 Tower Rd, Melbourne Airport
Tullamarine, 3043
Six candidates are invited each day:ok:. We have a number of Assessors made up of Operational Air Traffic Controllers, Managers and our Human Resources team. These people are trained in the assessment and selection process. We try to keep the process as relaxed as possible, as this is the best way to get to know you and determine if there is a real fit between you, the requirements of the job and our organisation. On some days observers and/or trainee Assessors will be present.

You will be advised in as soon as possible after the assessment centre if you have been successful in being offered a place on a training course.


The assessment day is staggered for each candidate. You will take part in:

- A group problem solving activity
- An individual simulation exercise
- A behavioural based interview
- An individual briefing exercise
- Spatial & diagrammatic reasoning as well as verification of your original online test results.


So the questions are:-
a. What to expect in the group solving activity and what to expect.:confused:
b. What is the individual simulation exercise.
c. What to expect in individual briefing exercise.
d. What are Spatial & diagrammatic reasoning??:confused:


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Any help would be appreciated.....

Attention anyone on the tower course starting early in the new year. Is there anyone that is still looking for a place or has a spare room and could do with a housemate? I am 25yo.

I am currently on tower course #45 and have to be out of my current place before the 8th January. I am looking for somwhere around Essendon/Moonee Ponds/Brunswick area (15-20min drive to work).

Anyone interested, please call me (Nigel) on 0418 289 975.

One of the guys who recently left the college is still looking to rent out there old place near Highpoint, might be worth looking at

Assessment Centres
 

As discussed at the Assessment Centres, it would be appreciated if actvities and assessments were not discussed to ensure a fair recruitment process for all.
Many thanks,
Airservices Australia Recruitment Team.

Might get some answers about the proposed (?) Brisbane course now ....



or not.

Haha, If anyone doubted my advice that Airsevices was indeed watching them on Ppprune, I would think that doubt would now be removed. Employer of choice?

I agree, Hmmmmmm.

That is hilarious - we always thought it and now we have the proof.

The funniest thing is that you can guarantee that it would have taken several meetings and approval of numerous managers for someone to make that post.

At least we can rest assured that 'they' know what a 'great' job they are doing running the place from reading the pprune boards.

What a load of sh!t.

I Have been in the job now for 2 decades with 4 ISPS in 3 countries and that is just bollocks.

Thank christ when I returned to Australia I bypassed the college and recruitment team.

Isn't it interesting that the Airservices Australia Recruitment Team have staff available and the time to read Pprune !
Must be bored after filling all those vacancies. ;)

I hope they told you the pass rate is currently below 50%. You could pass the college after 1 year, do 6 months field training and still miss out.

Think about what you're giving up before you roll the dice.

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Pre-Course
 

Has anyone starting the courses in teh new year recieved any pre course material yet?

Just curious as to who's still waiting on the assessment day or maybe the phone interview?

hey trance x,
waiting for the assement day and u?

Waiting on the phone interview. Last email I received said it will be in Dec or Jan.

People from Brisbane don't even know what's happening with the Brisbane course, let alone the Canberra crew, who will be fresh from there Xmas break. :oh:

Brisbane start date: 28th February.

Hey Mac

I start 21st Feb on the tower course and received my pre-course material a few weeks before Christmas. Lots to study, but am enjoying it all. Anyone else getting through the study?

What do you mean?

Hi all,
just wondering what info people may have on the service contracts? as in service time, bond repayments etc...
Congrats to all that are in so far and good luck to the rest of us...

cheers
Kieran

There is a few posts early on this thread about the training bond, but from the top of my head it's a 5 year bond if you actually pass the course and get rated. The number $70,000 comes to mind but don't quote me. Rumors are airservices only makes you pay if you leave for another ATC gig, not if you give-up ATC all together. There is no repayments, just have to do the 5 years.

$70,000 is correct, from the day you rate, which could be up to 2 years after you start your training. 7 years is a long time.....

Also ASA recently told a near-rated field trainee, that the bond would be payable even if they didn't use their license elsewhere. Trainee resigned.:hmm:

Hi Trance

"Just curious as to who's still waiting on the assessment day or maybe the phone interview?"

Sorry for the late reply, just got back into things after the silly season. I'm in the same boat as you. Was told to expect an email Dec / Jan to book a phone interview, but no word as yet. We still have another 3 wks of Jan left, so I'm being patient.

If you, or anyone else in this situation, hears anything, please let us know.......

str8shooter, I got a phone call yesterday asking if I was available for a phone interview today (and of course I was)

Thought it didn't go too well, but got an email quite quickly asking me to book my assessment centre day. Apparantly theres one next week but it's booked out, and another one in the 2nd week of March which is when I'm booked in.

This is my second go at it, last attempt over 2 years ago I got through the assessment centre and had a panel interview but got rejected. Hopefully things go better this time..

From the correspondance I've had, it seems as though the assessment centre is the last stage before referee/medical checks.. there's no mention of another panel interview?

Good luck with it Maton, hopefully being your 2nd time round with the assessment day will give you a bit of a "heads-up". Hang in there...., and, well done for persisting........ :ok:

Me...., well, I just wait. It's been almost 12 mths since first registering my expression of interest, so I've learnt to be patient. As an old African saying goes: "Slowly, slowly, catch the monkey!" :)

Brisbane Course
 

Anyone from teh Brisbane course please let me know if you are keen for a get together before the course starts. Maybe the last week in Jan or early feb.

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television - yes you will be reimbursed for any expenses incurred in the Class 3 medical process.

i believe they now do the interviews on the day at the assessment centre

Brisbane course
 

Hi there - are the Brisbane courses for Tower or Enroute?
Thanks!