Hi RVL Roll

Congratulations on getting this far in the process.

May I ask if you have been asked to complete your medical? If so when in the process they asked?

Thanks

Hey everyone,


I've been following this thread for a while (since I began my application in March) and first of all would like to thank you all for the questions and answers so far which have helped me greatly.


As I said above, I submitted my application back in March 2015. In early May I received the email asking me to do online testing by mid May. I thought I did perfect and a couple of days later I received the email asking for the OPQ for which I was given another few days to complete. So far, so good, moving pretty fast with the tests.


After that, there was a long pause, until June 29, before they told me I had passed that too and would need to book an interview. I was a bit worried during this pause but reading comments on here assured me that there is quite a gap before the interview booking.


I booked it that same day and had my interview at the start of August. Since then however I have heard nothing. They told me I would find out within a week how I went but it's been almost 4 weeks since then.


My application status says On-Hold for Upcoming Assessment Centre. Does this mean I passed the interview? Could they have forgotten to call or email or made a mistake?
Thanks for reading this far and for any help you can provide.

Hi VanillaCoke - that 'should' mean you've passed your interview and will be invited to attend an assessment day. Just have to wait until they get in touch.

With the amount of applicants over the past couple of years, I imagine being on the Airservices recruitment team could be quite taxing!

Thanks for the replies.

SydneyATCLover, I find it a bit strange that you were asked for referee details. I thought that was the next step after Assessment, not after the interview. This is for the ATC in training program? I know some of the other positions have different application steps.
Also, what is your application status on their website if you don't mind me asking?

HotelUniformYankee, thanks for the reply. It's good to hear from someone that's roughly at the same stage. It sounds like you had your phone interview about a week or 2 before me and since you found out your result recently, I hope I will find mine out as well any day now.
Just curious though... do you remember what your status was when you found out the result? Or what it is now if it hasn't changed after making your Assessment day appointment?

Hey there,

I'm finishing up my application for this current intake and just a quick question, and I may not even be in the right place, but there's a lot of you around here with the inside scoop so here goes.

As part of ASA's educational requirements, I am applying with my CPL. However it has a nifty little note there that has me a bit stumped "we do not accept flight crew licenses".

Correct me if I am wrong, but everything CASA hands out with the word license printed on it, also has the words "flight" and "crew" before it. Is there something that I'm missing here, or should I go dust off my year 12 results instead?

Hi,

I haven't been asked to compete medical yet. The last email I received was in May saying I had passed and next step was to allocate a course. Despite sending 3 emails in last 3 months I have had no reply from the HR team indicating a course start date/stream/location.

Becoming quite frustrated but appreciate its a long/difficult process.

How far along the process are you?

Hi RVL Roll - same situation here.

My current employment may soon be finishing, so knowing where I stand would be useful for informing what to do...think I'll proceed as if nothing's happening with ATC, if it does that's a bonus.

There have been some changes to training recently and that's causing a lot of delays. Even if you've made it through the assessment centre, the wait for a start date could be long - a year or more. I'd tend to work on the assumption that if it happens, that's great, but don't rely on it happening in the near future. If you do end up with an earlier start date, then that's a bonus. It's really hard to be patient, but it's out of our control.
Cheers,

Hi,

Well what a surprise today was! I received a call this am from ASA Recruitment informing me that I would be posted to Perth tower with an employment commencement date September 2016.

Initial training in Melbourne then start in Perth on completion in December 2016!

Still a while away but it was good to have a conversation and receive assurance that things were still pushing ahead. Next step is ASA sending the formal offer for me to accept then all the relocation stuff.

Good luck to everyone!

This place has so much good info!

RVL Roll congrats on the news. I received a phone call back in may also to say that I have got the job... no email though. My online status is complete medical. However... still waiting instruction to complete medical. Has anyone else got start dates for 2016? I wish they would give us all a little bit of info. Especially if there are delays. Oh well I guess we just play the waiting game

Hi Monique,

On the phone I told start date for Melbourne was around 19 Sep 2016. Where have you been posted? Congrats

Hey everyone,
First time poster here. I've applied for the Airservices Australia In Training Program. I am coming up to the online ability testing part. They told me they will progress me through to this stage when I've sent them a copy of my Commerical Pilot's Licence. It's still being processed and might take 2-3 weeks until I receive it.
I am aware of the Verbal Reasoning, Numerical Reasoning, Spatial Reasoning, Calculations and Checking tests that i have to go through and practiced them thoroughly. However, does anyone know what kind of time limits they give you for the tests and how many questions are available. The numerous practice tests I've taken can give me anywhere from 5 minutes a question to 60 seconds a question? Are they difficult?
Thanks!

Hey Torque Effect,


The time limits vary for each test.
For Verbal Reasoning I got about 15-20 minutes for 30 questions. You get about 4-5 questions for each paragraph they make you read, but you don't really have time to read it again so make sure you read it properly the first time.
Numerical is probably the 2nd hardest test. You get about a minute per question, 20 or so total. You just need to focus and try not to spend too much time on a question, if it's taking too long, just make a guess and move on.
Calculation is the most time restrained one. It has different stages but luckily has a break in-between each one. It moves from giving you 11 seconds per question to just 6 seconds per question at the last stage, and has about 5 questions per stage.
The Checking test is also pretty stressful and you only get a few seconds to find the matching number or letter sequence. 25 questions total if I remember correctly.
And finally the Spatial Ability test is the one I found to be the hardest. You get less than a minute per question which is tough when you have to go through every one of the answer options and check them with the shown figure. Again, make sure you don't spend too much time on one question. It has 20-25 questions.


I'd say they are all somewhat difficult. If you did quite well in maths in high school, you should be alright though. I think most people would probably find the Calculation one to be the hardest since you have to calculate very fast.


However, before you start each test they tell you exactly how many questions there will be and how much time you have. They also give you practice questions that you can choose to do or skip. I strongly recommend doing them since some of the tests are different from the practice ones they have on the website. Calculation being the most different since the practice one on the website is like the numerical test with a total time limit, rather than a limit on each question


With the practice tests included, you're looking at about 3 hours total for the whole thing so make sure you have that much time available and no distractions before starting. You can't stop it and resume at a later time. It's all in one go. Also apparently there can be problems loading the questions if you use Internet Explorer. So I recommend using another browser like Chrome.


Good luck!

Progress
 

Hi Everyone

Seeing those that sat their assessment day between May - September 2015, and passed. If you have herd anything further from HR?

Just seeing if anyone has been put on a course or told to do medical etc.

I understand we are looking at next year for course intake. It seems you get asked to do the medical closer to course start date from what I understand? Is that correct?

Just wanting to see where we might be at in the process.

Have a nice week

Hey Vanillacoke,
Cheers for the detailed explanation on how the testing will go. I am feeling really confident for it. Just waiting for it to happen, but the applications only closed a week ago.
Calculations test sounds like a bit of a worry but hopefully ill pass it.

En Route 116
 

Anyone else here received their conditional offer for En Route 116 in January?
So glad to have finally received some confirmation after the "slight" wait.

See you on day 1, Snikeron!

Accepted my offer today for En Route course 116. See you guys in January! :O

I will be looking to rent a place around Essendon so if anyone is looking to get some shared accomodation PM me, maybe we can work something out.

Hi guys.

First time poster here just wondering if anyone is in the same position as me...
I applied for the ATC training position on Aug 25 but application is still sitting on "application received". I have read through a fair bit of this forum and understand it is a slow process but more just curious to see if there are others in my situation? Thanks!

TL

Hi All

This thread has been an amazing source of info on the ATC application process, so thanks to all who have contributed. It's a very exciting process, but I understand that a lot of patience is necessary.

I thought I'd share my updates for anyone else who is interested particularly for this last intake which closed on 13 Sept.

Application (en route) submitted - 8 Sept 2015
Online cognitive testing completed - 14 Sept 2015
OPQ completed - 16 Sept 2015

Now I am waiting to see if I have made it through to the telephone interview. I wonder if anyone has had/booked a phone interview from this intake?

Hi ATCapplicant1,

Sorry can't help with your question, but was wondering what career/study background you come from? It looks as though your application was accepted straight away as you completed your online testing 6 days later. I have not had a response and it's been well over a month since my application. Just wondering if it has to do with previous qualifications/experience etc as to who gets put through to the next stage quicker?

Thanks.

Timeline for my application
 

You'll find similar timelines across this thread, and I found them personally helpful in waiting and managing my expectations throughout the application process so thought I'd share mine:

19/10/14 - Application submitted
29/10/14 - Online Test
3/11/14 - Online Occupational Personality Quiz
13/11/14 - Phone Interview
17/11/14 - Received Assessment Centre invite
2/2/15 - Assessment Centre
9/2/15 - Received Reference Check advisory
30/3/15 - Reference Checks completed
19/6/15 - Verbal Offer (phone call); waiting on start date
29/9/15 - Conditional Offer (email/website); start medical & security checks
11/1/16 - Start Date

Patience is your best friend. Until you actually receive a decline somewhere along the process, keep waiting and occupy yourself!
All the best to other applicants out there :ok:

Snikeron - Thanks for sharing :ok: Although the timings seem to vary wildly for different people, it's still helpful to see examples of timelines. At least in the initial stages, your application seemed to progress quite quickly compared to others. Congrats on making it through!

TL85 - I have a Diploma in financial services and a 10 year work history, most recently in middle management (not related to aviation at all), I'm 29. I doubt it has anything to do with that though, as people from all backgrounds get in, as well as young people just out of high school. If you've satisfied the minimum criteria for citizenship and education, I would imagine you'd automatically get an invite for testing? It seems odd that your application is still in limbo. Maybe follow them up by email?

Hi ATCapplicant1,

Thanks for your reply. I have sent through an email to them so hopefully that might get them to review the status of my application or at least get them to provide some feedback if I haven't met the criteria. My only concern was that I have a trade qualification which only incorporates a Cert III.

Will let you know the outcome.

Cheers,

Well, I got the call for the phone interview yesterday and had it on the same day. Unfortunately, nerves got the better of me (I haven't had to interview for a job in many years!) and I performed at a far less than ideal standard. Wish I had have been better prepared.

I checked the application status and it says "on hold for upcoming assessment centre" which sounds like a good sign, although I'm trying not to read too much into it to not get my hopes up.

The recruiter was very friendly and said the next assessment centre in Brisbane is end of November. Should find out for sure this week or next if I made it through to the AC. Good luck to all going through the process!

My timeline update:
Application (en route) submitted - 8 Sept 2015
Online cognitive testing completed - 14 Sept 2015
OPQ completed - 16 Sept 2015
Phone interview completed - 6 Oct 2015

"on hold for upcoming assessment centre" is all sweeet. That just means you are through to the next stage and they will send an email at some stage with various dates to choose from for the next assessment, first in best dressed!

If you were nervous for the phone interview look up how to do a STAR interview and sit down with someone and get them to ask you some questions.

Most importantly be yourself, enjoy the day. Best of luck, it is a fantastic career (In NZ with Airways anyway)

Thanks pineappledaz, I hope it does mean that I have a shot at the AC, haven't had confirmation just yet. And I'll definitely be doing some serious practice on STAR and behavioural interviews! Just having the opportunity to try on the day would surely be a very unique and interesting experience.
I have no doubt it's a fantastic and fulfilling career, I'm inspired to one day make it there :)

Hey everyone, I applied in August I believe and just sat the online testing on the 9th of this month (due to be completed by the 11th). Looking forward to hearing my results and hopefully they turn out to be good.

Felt fairly confident with the maths based ones although it started to get a bit too hectic towards the end of the checking test and the cubes started to get a bit difficult in the spatial one.

How did everyone else find the tests?

Has anyone heard results so far?

Hi Seiran,

Good to hear you felt confident and good luck with the rest of the process. Can I ask, did you apply for En Route? If so, did you put Melbourne or Brisbane as your preference?
My application is still sitting on status of "Application received". I emailed and they replied with:
"At this time, applications are being reviewed in batches, and while I cannot confirm when review of your application will take place, please be assured that your application will be assessed in due course."
Hopefully my batch is coming up.

Hi Torque Effect,

I was just reading your post, you mention you've been doing practice tests for the Verbal Reasoning, Numerical Reasoning, Spatial Reasoning, Calculations and Checking tests, in preparation for the initial online test. I'm looking at applying for ATC when applications next open, and was just wondering from where you found these practice tests? Its been a while since I've been studying, just want to get my maths skills back up to speed. If you could point me in the direction of these tests that would be much appreciated!

All the best for your test!

TL85,

I can't remember if I applied for En Route or tower as I would love to do either and I can't seem to view and adjust my application. Hopefully all goes well for your tests when they come around!

Now this may be a bit of a stupid question, I'm not sure...

From what I've read, when you apply you get to choose either en route or tower. How does this work in with people who aspire to work in a Terminal facility?

Would it be better to apply for one or the other, or is it completely separate and something which you could work towards from either employment stream?

En route would probably be the way to go - vectoring skills and all that.

Bugger, made it through the aptitude testing, but failed at the personality test! Probably the part where I kept selecting "I trust people" as least because I'm a pilot and don't trust anything anyone says without verifying it myself first :p

Uh-oh I kept selecting that I don't trust people in the personality test, have yet to get my results GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Got my AC invite on Tuesday! Booked in for 25 Nov in Brisbane :) Super excited! I have been practising my behavioural interview skills and doing the Lumosity brain training app, online practice tests and playing an ATC game. Other than that, I'm not sure what else to do to prepare. I might see if I am able to schedule a visit to the facility.

Everything has moved fairly quickly, I must have been lucky to be in the first batch of applications to be processed from this intake. To those awaiting results, hopefully it means that things will also be moving along for you too! :)

My timeline update:
Application (en route) submitted - 8 Sept 2015
Online cognitive testing completed - 14 Sept 2015
OPQ completed - 16 Sept 2015
Phone interview completed - 6 Oct 2015
Assessment Centre invite received - 27 Oct 2015
Assessment Centre - 25 Nov 2015

Hey all,

So after a long wait, I have been accepted into the January intake! I was originally scheduled to start in April, but I got the call that someone pulled out so I could start sooner. Nerve-wracking but exciting!

April Start
 

After a insane wait time I was informed a couple months ago that I will be starting in Melbourne in April and based in Melbourne. I'm trying to find some other people here that are starting then as well so that we don't know anyone when we start and skip that whole awkward getting to know each other stuff.

Hit me up if anyone is in next April,

RedPhox

Great news!

Had you already received the offer letter with instructions to get a medical and security checks for your April date, or was the info about April from an unofficial heads up and you were still waiting for the official nod?