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exiflame 1st Sep 2022 04:29

Good luck to all going through the interrupt testing! I've completed my video interview, and I'm through to the Assessment Centre.
Some tips for those doing the interrupt test: Get a good nights sleep, have coffee for concentration if you'd like, manage your time well during the test ;).
If anyone has done the assessment centre recently, would you be able to say if its virtual or in person? The email I got told me to stand by for an invite to it, but was otherwise pretty vague.

Pretty pumped to get through to hopefully the last stage of selection, however I shouldn't get my hopes up.

Grjenk 1st Sep 2022 04:37


Originally Posted by exiflame (Post 11288717)
Good luck to all going through the interrupt testing! I've completed my video interview, and I'm through to the Assessment Centre.
Some tips for those doing the interrupt test: Get a good nights sleep, have coffee for concentration if you'd like, manage your time well during the test ;).
If anyone has done the assessment centre recently, would you be able to say if its virtual or in person? The email I got told me to stand by for an invite to it, but was otherwise pretty vague.

Pretty pumped to get through to hopefully the last stage of selection, however I shouldn't get my hopes up.

i have my assessment day in a couple weeks, virtual day for me.

Haylsa 1st Sep 2022 16:42

Interrupt test
 
Well for those following, I did the online interrupt test today and actually thoroughly enjoyed it.
You are required to complete a task following commands from planes but ensuring you comply with 'rules' set out also.
Meanwhile you also need to answer questions and follow instructions on a completely different subject.
It requires concentration, accuracy and the ability to prioritise and forward plan. There's really no way to prepare for this beforehand.

We were told we'd receive results within 24hrs however I received an email within 10 minutes saying I'd passed and am now onto the video interview. There's a deadline of one week to complete this.

The facilitator also told us what to expect moving forward and that they're hoping to hold the online assessment centre before Christmas. So still lots of time to go.

I hope everyone else did well with the test and have progessed to the next stage.

exiflame 2nd Sep 2022 07:14

Thanks for letting me know, and best of luck to both of you! Hopefully it's not too far in the future for me.

JunZZZ39 29th Sep 2022 08:48

Hi I am doing the interrrupt test in a few weeks, pretty nervous about it.

JunZZZ39 29th Sep 2022 10:55

I am doing the interrupt test in a few weeks, pretty nervous about it. what's after the interrupt test? video interview?

Haylsa 26th Oct 2022 16:41

Assessment centre
 
Is anyone else booked in to do the assessment centre next week? I'm Thursday 3rd Nov at midday.
Good luck if you are

Sketchy06 28th Oct 2022 03:50

Assessment Centre
 
Hey Haylsa!

I’m booked in for the same time slot (1pm if you’re in Sydney or Melbourne). Congrats on making it this far and best of luck for the day!

exiflame 3rd Nov 2022 07:04

Haylsa and Sketchy06, now that you guys would have finished, how did you guys go? I felt like I did well on the 1st exercise of the day, and the 1st part of the interview, but my behavioural interview was not so great. But hey, I made it through this far, so that's nothing to be ashamed of. If you guys let me know when you get something back, I'll do the same. In my session they said a few business days, so I'm thinking ~ Monday/Tuesday. My fingers are crossed for both of you!

Sketchy06 3rd Nov 2022 07:45

Hey Exiflame!

I think I did pretty well. I mean, I think I did my best on both sections but whether that’s enough to make it through… I’m not sure. The biggest thing that hit me straight away in the group task was that everyone there was exceptional, and I’d be really happy for anyone in my group that made it through.

In the interview, the people that took me through it were really cool so it felt far more like a conversation than an interrogation which was nice. And don’t stress, I’m sure you did better than you initially thought. What’s done is done - don’t overthink it!

There’s no prize for second place, and I’ve never been one to take much solace from just getting close to something I’m striving for, but after meeting the group of people I was in with today, it really is an achievement to make it to that stage. I was told a maximum of 2 weeks to hear back but obviously if it is a few business days, that would be ideal.

Let me know how you go! I’m pulling for ya!

Haylsa 3rd Nov 2022 07:49

Assessment centre
 
Hi Exiflame,

I was the opposite. Not a fan of the group exercise but was really able to show myself during the individual session. They also advised it'd be a week before hearing anything. I'm trying to stay positive 🙂
They said that the March 2023 training school is full so it will be after that if we make it. Hopefully there's one shortly after that 🤞 I'm so ready to get started!
Good luck!!

exiflame 3rd Nov 2022 08:11

Yeah I heard the same Haylsa, and that no Tower courses are planned for a while. Looking back on it, I'd be pretty surprised if I made it through to references. My behavioural situations weren't bad, it was just my delivery that was all over the shop. Completely different to my prerecorded interview, I think it was just nerves on the day. Oh well, no matter what happens it was a fun day and I've really enjoyed going through the process! From what I gathered there's 12 slots open in the course, and around 24 people were put through the assessment centre all up for this round, although I can't speak to their selection process / chances of making it through.

Sketchy06 4th Nov 2022 05:09

For those following, I just got an email requesting I submit referees. Fingers crossed you guys get the same news shortly!!

Haylsa 4th Nov 2022 17:11


Originally Posted by Sketchy06 (Post 11325179)
For those following, I just got an email requesting I submit referees. Fingers crossed you guys get the same news shortly!!

Me too!! Congratulations
I'm so excited 😊 (BTW which one were you in the assessment? It's obvious who I am 👗 🤣)

exiflame 4th Nov 2022 17:27

Good news here as well, congrats to both of you!

FCT_BJEB 9th Nov 2022 06:38

G'day all,

I've been going through the application process since about April this year. Got through all the testing up to and including the group day on the 14th Sep.
Reference checks have been done and met the requirements to date, and as of 04th October I've been told Airservices are now finalising the dates for training next year and my application is pending that! Anyone have any insight if there are any further steps or am I now awaiting an invite to commence the role subject to medical and security checks?
Good luck to all who have just submitted their referee's recently as per the thread!

hopefulatc 10th Nov 2022 05:20


Originally Posted by FCT_BJEB (Post 11327681)
Anyone have any insight if there are any further steps or am I now awaiting an invite to commence the role subject to medical and security checks?

After reference checks were completed the next I heard from Airservices was a phone call with the conditional job offer.

Haylsa 17th Nov 2022 05:24

Offer
 
Did anyone else get a phone call today with a verbal offer??
I've been given a date in March for Tower stream!
So excited now, really looking forward to starting.
She said all the details will be sent this week via letter :)
Hope everyone else hears soon

PubliusNaso 17th Nov 2022 06:26

Yep, except it was a verbal offer to be on reserve for the March enroute course, otherwise likely July for the next course when they actually schedule it. Exciting times!

FCT_BJEB 17th Nov 2022 08:50


Originally Posted by Haylsa (Post 11332155)
Did anyone else get a phone call today with a verbal offer??
I've been given a date in March for Tower stream!
So excited now, really looking forward to starting.
She said all the details will be sent this week via letter :)
Hope everyone else hears soon

Got an offer for En-Route March training. See you in Melbourne!

ImGonnaMakeIt 20th Feb 2023 10:16

Hi all, I can see that trainee ATC recruitment is open again and wonder if anyone applied?
Not sure how many trainees they are recruiting this round. Does anyone remember if they send out the online assessment a few days after you've applied or after the application closes.
Do you know anyone that is successful in the recruitment being a permanent residence only? As far as I know Darwin Airport is shared with RAAF so I'd imagine you'd need to be an Australian citizen to work at that tower.
In the recruitment ad they mentioned PR is eligible but I'd imagine there aren't many that make it am I right?
Fingers cross hopefully I make it!

Maggie Island 22nd Feb 2023 02:27


Originally Posted by ImGonnaMakeIt (Post 11388656)
As far as I know Darwin Airport is shared with RAAF so I'd imagine you'd need to be an Australian citizen to work at that tower.
In the recruitment ad they mentioned PR is eligible but I'd imagine there aren't many that make it am I right?
Fingers cross hopefully I make it!

Not shared, DN ATC is a RAAF only affair. ARFF is provided by AsA though. Plenty of PRs make it into the company, I wouldn’t worry about not being a citizen.

Restlesss1 27th Feb 2023 16:21

Hi everyone,

That's incredible that you only got maybe one of those maths questions wrong, I just did that test and I must say I found the radar simulation test difficult especially at the end. I did really well in the practice part though, but I guess in the real exam you kind of get worried and have hardly any time. I guess the best method is to just pick the first thing that comes to your mind without thinking further. Also maybe I shouldn't have done it sitting in the dark at 3 am in the morning either lol Anyways I still have to do a cognitive ability test, but I felt other parts were pretty easy.

Has anyone here actually proceeded to the next round or been offered a role after not acing the radar sim test?

thecox321 28th Feb 2023 22:33


Originally Posted by Restlesss1 (Post 11392431)
Hi everyone,

That's incredible that you only got maybe one of those maths questions wrong, I just did that test and I must say I found the radar simulation test difficult especially at the end. I did really well in the practice part though, but I guess in the real exam you kind of get worried and have hardly any time. I guess the best method is to just pick the first thing that comes to your mind without thinking further. Also maybe I shouldn't have done it sitting in the dark at 3 am in the morning either lol Anyways I still have to do a cognitive ability test, but I felt other parts were pretty easy.

Has anyone here actually proceeded to the next round or been offered a role after not acing the radar sim test?

Hey mate - you definitely aren't alone! The radar test was incredibly difficult - i'm not sure it was designed to be 'aced'. It was definitely exponentially harder than everything else so I think we had similar experiences. Behaviour test always a bit of a toss up! Out of our hands now!

Thelamprun 1st Mar 2023 03:28

I finished the 2nd round of testing yesterday and got an email today saying I passed and the next round is the interrupt test on an MS Teams call with one of the recruiters. I'm a bit surprised I made it this far but I feel I did better on the 2nd round of testing than the first.

Chebouy 1st Mar 2023 16:01

Hey dude congratulations!!! I was wondering did you study in anyway or did the spatial reasoning and radar collisions just come naturally to you?

Thelamprun 2nd Mar 2023 01:18


Originally Posted by Chebouy (Post 11393546)
Hey dude congratulations!!! I was wondering did you study in anyway or did the spatial reasoning and radar collisions just come naturally to you?

Thanks! I'm a land and construction surveyor so I have a diploma in Spatial Science haha. Although a bit different to ATC I work with bearings and distances every day and have to do quick calculations with numbers and it saves a lot of time if you can do more mentally than having to whip out a calculator every time. I didn't necessarily study for the tests but I just looked up what style and format they would be in.

Also, because I'm such a nerd I play a couple different ATC simulator games. Mainly Tower 3D Pro which is tower and ground and another called Endless ATC which is an Approach radar Sim. In general I play a lot of video games so staring at a screen having to react quickly to something is not new to me 😂

PPRuNeUser0175 5th Mar 2023 19:39


Originally Posted by Haylsa (Post 11289060)
Well for those following, I did the online interrupt test today and actually thoroughly enjoyed it.
You are required to complete a task following commands from planes but ensuring you comply with 'rules' set out also.
Meanwhile you also need to answer questions and follow instructions on a completely different subject.
It requires concentration, accuracy and the ability to prioritise and forward plan. There's really no way to prepare for this beforehand.

Congratulations for all those who have made it so far. I was wondering if anyone could shed some more light on the interrupt test. When you refer to comply with 'rules', is this like the coded reasoning test we did in part 2? And with the answering of questions and following instructions on a different subject, could you give an example of one?

Hanzo 9th Mar 2023 07:18


Originally Posted by JimiCamvera (Post 11396080)
Congratulations for all those who have made it so far. I was wondering if anyone could shed some more light on the interrupt test. When you refer to comply with 'rules', is this like the coded reasoning test we did in part 2? And with the answering of questions and following instructions on a different subject, could you give an example of one?

I read on Jobtestprep that the interrupt test is very similar to the collision simulation practice where you need to split your attention. It's difficult to imagine how it would all execute between that and Haylsa's post as it was quite challenging.

Thelamprun 14th Mar 2023 05:49

I completed the interrupt test today and about an hour after got an email saying I passed, onto the recorded video interview! The exam was pretty interesting, I don't think I messed up on any of the planes but got a couple of the shape/math questions wrong which is to be expected. If I had to guess I would say I got like a 90% pass on it. The recruiter said they expect a high level of accuracy on the exam so I wonder what the cutoff is.

ImGonnaMakeIt 15th Mar 2023 09:45

I was so confident when I did the practice test that they sent earlier. But I think I got hammered in the actual test. It is not quite same as the practice ones LOL

Bruce Kent 16th Mar 2023 07:19

Good luck ImGonnaMakeIt! I did the online tests today. Some of the tests felt easier than the practice tests but they were definitely different. I felt I did well on Numerical Calc, Inductive Reasoning, and Checking. Verbal Reasoning is my weak spot, in the practice I always struggled even though English is my first (only) language. Hopefully I did well enough. The Spacial Ability test was by far the hardest. Turns out I'm not great at folding and unfolding cubes in my head. The OPQ was just interesting, who knows what they're looking for there...

ImGonnaMakeIt 17th Mar 2023 03:14

I thought I was confident in numerical and checking, but the way they time it is different, and with a crappy mouse + crappy computer, you kinda lost like 1~2 secs every question, about 30% of alloweable time so there's that. Otherwise I find Spatial and Inductive Reasoning to be very fun! Verbal Reasoning is also definitely my weakest spot :)

Tysonus 19th Mar 2023 11:47


Originally Posted by ImGonnaMakeIt (Post 11403633)
I thought I was confident in numerical and checking, but the way they time it is different, and with a crappy mouse + crappy computer, you kinda lost like 1~2 secs every question, about 30% of alloweable time so there's that. Otherwise I find Spatial and Inductive Reasoning to be very fun! Verbal Reasoning is also definitely my weakest spot :)

I did my online tests today, because they need to be completed by the 22nd. I'm unfortunately sick at the moment meaning I probably didn't do my best, but i won't get any other time so did it anyway.

I felt reasonably confident after the practise questions for numerical, and I'm reasonably good with numbers. I unfortunately had a few questions in round 4/5 where I took too long to get an answer, and at least 1 where I rushed to get an answer in at the last second and mistyped it. I also had one question with the verbal reasoning where I didn't realise the text had changed, and answered based off of the previous text... I'm hoping that this won't cause me to fail, as I feel pretty good about it otherwise.

I struggled a little bit with the spacial reasoning and I felt like I was a little bit slow, finishing with about 12 seconds to spare. I did enjoy the inductive reasoning, and felt that most of the patterns were very easy to see.

Jzt 21st Mar 2023 04:30

Hi All,

Someone care to explain the pros/cons of Tower v Enroute stream if one was lucky enough to pass the selection process?

cheers

exiflame 22nd Mar 2023 12:01

Of course as I'm not an ATC this is what I've seen online.

Tower:
Much harder to get into
+ You work with a view
+ Shorter training course length
+ If regional, you're most likely going to have an easier schedule (no overnights)
- Likely to be working in the middle of no where at start
- Harder to go from tower -> approach (maybe?)

Enroute:
+ Based in major population centre
- Almost certainly will have rotating 24/7 roster
- Longer course / more stressful?


ImGonnaMakeIt 22nd Mar 2023 12:28

I'm gonna say with tower most of the time you'll have less time to make a decision as well and deal with a lot of immediate or sudden changes?
with enroute you'll have some time to plan ahead probably.
BTW just got an email for round 2 of assessment, sent from a New Zealand email address! All the tests this time seem more complicated!

Tysonus 22nd Mar 2023 12:28

For anybody waiting on a response... I got an email today telling me I was successful and have been invited to do another 3 online tests. Good luck to anyone waiting!

exiflame 22nd Mar 2023 14:55

Very true, but I'm sure the additional traffic in enroute sectors makes up for it.

Jzt, I think I'm in the same cohort as you. The last you heard from AsA was your app being placed on hold late November following the Assessment Centre right?

Thelamprun 22nd Mar 2023 22:01

As some others have mentioned I have also passed the video interview and been invited for three more tests. Find it interesting that during the interrupt test the assessor said it would be the last of the testing we would have to do. I'm curious to see what these ones involve.


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