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Luis Godoy 31st Mar 2022 06:52

I really appreciate your answer, very helpful.

logansi 11th Apr 2022 23:20

Hello all,

I just have a few questions and want some advice.

I'm 25, I'm a CPL holder with about 500 hours who became unemployed during covid. The last few years have left me really considering attempting an application with ASA and a move in ATC. I aviation and love flying, infact ATC was actually my original passion until I ended up going my CPL with a group of friends. I just feel like the stability and less uncertainty in the long term might be more for me.

My main questions are how do other people and how will ASA see this? I'm worried about coming across as someone who might not be fully committed or might want another change again down the road, is this something I should worry about?

Also when is the next application/expression of interest round expected to open? I'm not in any hurry as I need to make my decision 100% one way or the other.

parishiltons 12th Apr 2022 07:12

There's plenty of CPLs and ATPLs who have both applied for ATC and made it (along with plenty who did not get accepted and/or did not make it through training, as with any other applicant background). Having some professional aviation background can be a help in some ways. Once in ATC, people tend to stay in unless they are found to be not up to scratch performance-wise (typically at-fault incidents or a poor check performance history), or self select back out for any number of personal reasons. If you decide to go ahead, a sense of commitment is an important factor for success. Do your research. Keep an eye on the website for when application windows open.

Cleared For A Coffee 15th Apr 2022 20:46

Whatís the staffing situation like in Aus at the moment? Any plans to recruit internationally again?

IslandDreamer 2nd May 2022 07:34

AirServices Testing
 
Can anyone describe the radar simulation test

Fortaleza 22nd May 2022 06:45

Apparently I made it through. Just waiting on a confirmed training start date. Is anyone else here in the same boat?

Chopz 6th Jun 2022 15:07

So it looks like they changed the process since the last time I applied where I didn't make it past the first round of testing.

This time around I made it to a second round of testing, some of which was fairly easy, some of which seemed fairly intense.

Has anyone else recently gone through this and what do you think?

Squire1 10th Jun 2022 02:33


Originally Posted by Chopz (Post 11241729)
So it looks like they changed the process since the last time I applied where I didn't make it past the first round of testing.

This time around I made it to a second round of testing, some of which was fairly easy, some of which seemed fairly intense.

Has anyone else recently gone through this and what do you think?

Im going through it at the moment. Round 2 testing complete. Iíve gotta agree, some parts where super easy but that radar simulation with math questions popping up just for 4 seconds seemed impossible to ace. Feel as though I but butchered that. Are you waiting on results for round two now?

Chopz 11th Jun 2022 03:17


Originally Posted by Squire1 (Post 11243698)
Im going through it at the moment. Round 2 testing complete. Iíve gotta agree, some parts where super easy but that radar simulation with math questions popping up just for 4 seconds seemed impossible to ace. Feel as though I but butchered that. Are you waiting on results for round two now?

I had problems with that as well. Highly doubt I did well at all. I completed it all on Monday night so now just waiting to hear back.

YuKitsune 14th Jun 2022 08:42


Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 11233520)
Apparently I made it through. Just waiting on a confirmed training start date. Is anyone else here in the same boat?

Congrats on getting in!
How'd you find the radar simulation test? I struggled to process any of the math questions before they disappeared...

Chopz 14th Jun 2022 19:14


Originally Posted by Squire1 (Post 11243698)
Im going through it at the moment. Round 2 testing complete. Iíve gotta agree, some parts where super easy but that radar simulation with math questions popping up just for 4 seconds seemed impossible to ace. Feel as though I but butchered that. Are you waiting on results for round two now?

Didn't get through unfortunately. Good luck if you are still in.

JimS 15th Jun 2022 07:26

Anyone waiting for Result from their interview and Reference Check?
 
Hi All
GOOD LUCK to everyone who's going through the tests.

Just want to find out if anyone heard back from ASA lately from Assessment Centre test & Xref reference check.

Initial application - October 2021

I had my 'Assessment Centre' tests using Microsoft team mid-late March and my referees completed Xref at the end of March.
I had a call from ASA couple of months ago asking the stream preference.

Late April, got an e-mail saying thisWe are writing to advise that your application has been placed on hold for the time being whilst we await confirmation of upcoming training courses.

Has anyone heard back from ASA after this e-mail?

Thank you all and all the best

Fortaleza 15th Jun 2022 10:38


Originally Posted by YuKitsune (Post 11245800)
Congrats on getting in!
How'd you find the radar simulation test? I struggled to process any of the math questions before they disappeared...

I am pretty good with numbers, it's just comes natural to me. To be honest I'd be very very surprised if I got more than 1 wrong ; As in all maths answers AND plane requests. In fairness without being arrogant, I feel aptitude tests, and these tests in general suit me to a T. I feel you either have it or you dont, as its not like studying for a test. And the less time to answer/make decisions with numbers I seem to excel.
The hardest test out of everything for me was answering whether plane was to the left or right of the other plane..... the hardest part was it wasnt left or right it was true or false to left or right. So it was like you had to process double negatives or double positives quickly, and I know I struggled in that, but all the others I found quite comfortable.

That's not to say I wouldnt be a terrible air traffic controller? Who knows. But I'm happy that it seems like I'll get a chance. Maybe the job will could be my calling.

Fortaleza 15th Jun 2022 21:18


Originally Posted by JimS (Post 11246283)
Hi All
GOOD LUCK to everyone who's going through the tests.

Just want to find out if anyone heard back from ASA lately from Assessment Centre test & Xref reference check.

Initial application - October 2021

I had my 'Assessment Centre' tests using Microsoft team mid-late March and my referees completed Xref at the end of March.
I had a call from ASA couple of months ago asking the stream preference.

Late April, got an e-mail saying thisWe are writing to advise that your application has been placed on hold for the time being whilst we await confirmation of upcoming training courses.

Has anyone heard back from ASA after this e-mail?

Thank you all and all the best

Hi mate.
I am at the exact same stage as yourself. Last I heard was that email stating they are waiting on confirmation of upcoming training courses.....

Though my initial application was January and my Microsoft Teams meeting was early May. I thought I have been waiting a long time, but your whole process length has been huge. I am starting to think now they are building candidates from multiple testing intakes until they have the desired amount, which makes sense I suppose.

Out of curiosity, did you choose Enroute?

Jzt 12th Aug 2022 01:09

Virtual assessment
 
Just got notified about ď Virtual assessment ď in mid September.
Any information on what to expect ?
TIA

exiflame 15th Aug 2022 05:12

I've completed the online psychometric testing, as well as the online Interrupt Test. Would the next steps be the virtual / pre-recorded interview and then the Virtual Assessment?

Jzt 17th Aug 2022 22:25

Exiflame,
funnily enough I had pre recorded interview before interrupt test. Go figure

exiflame 22nd Aug 2022 08:47


Originally Posted by Jzt (Post 11280350)
Exiflame,
funnily enough I had pre recorded interview before interrupt test. Go figure

That's weird. Anyway, ive passed the interrupt test and I'm through to the virtual interview. After the interview I think there's another assessment day, which is different to the interrupt test. I suppose just a reiteration of the online testing but surprised.

It's a bit weird how they've swapped around the order for my group.

Mav000 22nd Aug 2022 14:43

Interruption Test
 

Originally Posted by Jzt (Post 11280350)
Exiflame,
funnily enough I had pre recorded interview before interrupt test. Go figure

Hey Jzt,
Can you give me any tips for the ĎInterruptioní test as I have it coming up and have no idea what to expect? Would be much appreciated.

Mav000 22nd Aug 2022 22:55

Interruption Test
 

Originally Posted by exiflame (Post 11282848)
That's weird. Anyway, ive passed the interrupt test and I'm through to the virtual interview. After the interview I think there's another assessment day, which is different to the interrupt test. I suppose just a reiteration of the online testing but surprised.

It's a bit weird how they've swapped around the order for my group.

Hi Exiflame,
Can you give me any tips for the ĎInterruptioní test as I have it coming up and have no idea what to expect? Would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Mav

acpulse 25th Aug 2022 14:42


Originally Posted by Cleared For A Coffee (Post 11215982)
Whatís the staffing situation like in Aus at the moment? Any plans to recruit internationally again?

Massively understaffed BUT not according to Airservices.
According to their media releases, we have an excess of 100 controllers. "They just need to be moved to the right places." Apparently, we're doing similar overtime numbers to pre-COVID. That is a lie, just a blatant lie.
Apparently, these staffing shortages aren't causing delays to the airlines. Not true in the slightest. Apparently, airspace hasn't been closed down. That must mean TIBA procedures is just a part of normal service delivery.
They're thinning the rosters to run at the minimum, in part due to reduced demand (in major terminals, increase in regional), but in reality it is because we have less staff. We will need lots of controllers to deal with upcoming projects, and eventually... the big move to a new system.
We lost 140+ controllers to the retirement incentive scheme. During which, an ad was placed looking for experienced controllers. That was quickly taken down when they realised they were paying people to leave and advertising for those same jobs.
They're full of it, but not full of staff.

Haylsa 30th Aug 2022 12:57

Interrupt Test
 

Originally Posted by Mav000 (Post 11283312)
Hi Exiflame,
Can you give me any tips for the ĎInterruptioní test as I have it coming up and have no idea what to expect? Would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Mav

Hi Mav,

I've also got the Interrupt Test coming up this week, if you've already completed it I'd love some insight.
Thanks 😊

exiflame 1st Sep 2022 05:29

Good luck to all going through the interrupt testing! I've completed my video interview, and I'm through to the Assessment Centre.
Some tips for those doing the interrupt test: Get a good nights sleep, have coffee for concentration if you'd like, manage your time well during the test ;).
If anyone has done the assessment centre recently, would you be able to say if its virtual or in person? The email I got told me to stand by for an invite to it, but was otherwise pretty vague.

Pretty pumped to get through to hopefully the last stage of selection, however I shouldn't get my hopes up.

Grjenk 1st Sep 2022 05:37


Originally Posted by exiflame (Post 11288717)
Good luck to all going through the interrupt testing! I've completed my video interview, and I'm through to the Assessment Centre.
Some tips for those doing the interrupt test: Get a good nights sleep, have coffee for concentration if you'd like, manage your time well during the test ;).
If anyone has done the assessment centre recently, would you be able to say if its virtual or in person? The email I got told me to stand by for an invite to it, but was otherwise pretty vague.

Pretty pumped to get through to hopefully the last stage of selection, however I shouldn't get my hopes up.

i have my assessment day in a couple weeks, virtual day for me.

Haylsa 1st Sep 2022 17:42

Interrupt test
 
Well for those following, I did the online interrupt test today and actually thoroughly enjoyed it.
You are required to complete a task following commands from planes but ensuring you comply with 'rules' set out also.
Meanwhile you also need to answer questions and follow instructions on a completely different subject.
It requires concentration, accuracy and the ability to prioritise and forward plan. There's really no way to prepare for this beforehand.

We were told we'd receive results within 24hrs however I received an email within 10 minutes saying I'd passed and am now onto the video interview. There's a deadline of one week to complete this.

The facilitator also told us what to expect moving forward and that they're hoping to hold the online assessment centre before Christmas. So still lots of time to go.

I hope everyone else did well with the test and have progessed to the next stage.

exiflame 2nd Sep 2022 08:14

Thanks for letting me know, and best of luck to both of you! Hopefully it's not too far in the future for me.

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JunZZZ39 29th Sep 2022 09:48

Hi I am doing the interrrupt test in a few weeks, pretty nervous about it.

JunZZZ39 29th Sep 2022 11:55

I am doing the interrupt test in a few weeks, pretty nervous about it. what's after the interrupt test? video interview?

Haylsa 26th Oct 2022 17:41

Assessment centre
 
Is anyone else booked in to do the assessment centre next week? I'm Thursday 3rd Nov at midday.
Good luck if you are

Sketchy06 28th Oct 2022 04:50

Assessment Centre
 
Hey Haylsa!

Iím booked in for the same time slot (1pm if youíre in Sydney or Melbourne). Congrats on making it this far and best of luck for the day!

exiflame 3rd Nov 2022 08:04

Haylsa and Sketchy06, now that you guys would have finished, how did you guys go? I felt like I did well on the 1st exercise of the day, and the 1st part of the interview, but my behavioural interview was not so great. But hey, I made it through this far, so that's nothing to be ashamed of. If you guys let me know when you get something back, I'll do the same. In my session they said a few business days, so I'm thinking ~ Monday/Tuesday. My fingers are crossed for both of you!

Sketchy06 3rd Nov 2022 08:45

Hey Exiflame!

I think I did pretty well. I mean, I think I did my best on both sections but whether thatís enough to make it throughÖ Iím not sure. The biggest thing that hit me straight away in the group task was that everyone there was exceptional, and Iíd be really happy for anyone in my group that made it through.

In the interview, the people that took me through it were really cool so it felt far more like a conversation than an interrogation which was nice. And donít stress, Iím sure you did better than you initially thought. Whatís done is done - donít overthink it!

Thereís no prize for second place, and Iíve never been one to take much solace from just getting close to something Iím striving for, but after meeting the group of people I was in with today, it really is an achievement to make it to that stage. I was told a maximum of 2 weeks to hear back but obviously if it is a few business days, that would be ideal.

Let me know how you go! Iím pulling for ya!

Haylsa 3rd Nov 2022 08:49

Assessment centre
 
Hi Exiflame,

I was the opposite. Not a fan of the group exercise but was really able to show myself during the individual session. They also advised it'd be a week before hearing anything. I'm trying to stay positive 🙂
They said that the March 2023 training school is full so it will be after that if we make it. Hopefully there's one shortly after that 🤞 I'm so ready to get started!
Good luck!!

exiflame 3rd Nov 2022 09:11

Yeah I heard the same Haylsa, and that no Tower courses are planned for a while. Looking back on it, I'd be pretty surprised if I made it through to references. My behavioural situations weren't bad, it was just my delivery that was all over the shop. Completely different to my prerecorded interview, I think it was just nerves on the day. Oh well, no matter what happens it was a fun day and I've really enjoyed going through the process! From what I gathered there's 12 slots open in the course, and around 24 people were put through the assessment centre all up for this round, although I can't speak to their selection process / chances of making it through.

Sketchy06 4th Nov 2022 06:09

For those following, I just got an email requesting I submit referees. Fingers crossed you guys get the same news shortly!!

Haylsa 4th Nov 2022 18:11


Originally Posted by Sketchy06 (Post 11325179)
For those following, I just got an email requesting I submit referees. Fingers crossed you guys get the same news shortly!!

Me too!! Congratulations
I'm so excited 😊 (BTW which one were you in the assessment? It's obvious who I am 👗 🤣)

exiflame 4th Nov 2022 18:27

Good news here as well, congrats to both of you!

FCT_BJEB 9th Nov 2022 07:38

G'day all,

I've been going through the application process since about April this year. Got through all the testing up to and including the group day on the 14th Sep.
Reference checks have been done and met the requirements to date, and as of 04th October I've been told Airservices are now finalising the dates for training next year and my application is pending that! Anyone have any insight if there are any further steps or am I now awaiting an invite to commence the role subject to medical and security checks?
Good luck to all who have just submitted their referee's recently as per the thread!

hopefulatc 10th Nov 2022 06:20


Originally Posted by FCT_BJEB (Post 11327681)
Anyone have any insight if there are any further steps or am I now awaiting an invite to commence the role subject to medical and security checks?

After reference checks were completed the next I heard from Airservices was a phone call with the conditional job offer.


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