UK - NATS Pay negotiations - latest rumours

[White Hart]

oh dear, I hope you are being sarcastic??

yes, the powder is very dry, its very dry,... so very very ,,.erm ....dddry ..yy...er, ddr,.....yy,...y, . zzzzz, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[11K-AVML]

how long before NATS comes back to us and states it cannot afford the pension for current members?

Take a screenshot and print out of the current NATSNet News item on the Annual reports. There's a comment about pensions on there with a replied from Philip James that suggests this isn't the case (at least today).

[Hootin an a roarin]

Some NATS ATCO's are SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERPAID. I can only give my opinion on Swanwick (TC & AC), Heathrow and Gatwick. The caveat being that they actually spend their working time controlling air traffic, not sitting in an office. (Copenhagen ATCO, 2 sectors = £100k).

I've no problem with that as long as my band 2 colleagues and I are paid in the £80k's

Also with your huge pay you will be wanting a huge pension at the detriment of others down the ladder. Wasn't this one of the causes of the recent pension problems? Underpaid? Some people are never satisfied. Why don't we make you band 10 and all have a company Aston as well?

[Frank Disclosure]

kats-I

Someone passed comments.you returned fire..they returned...yeah, yeah yeah

Its all getting a little tedious now..I'm sure you are big enough and ugly enough to let it go..PLEEAASSE...for Gods sake grow up..life moves on.!!!

Rant over.

And please no return fire.

Yeah I guess having your collective intelligence mocked can be a little tedious.


I saw 9 (male) ATCOs wearing Flip Flops the other day, at least 2 of them were in their 40s.

[chiglet]

I saw 9 (male) ATCOs wearing Flip Flops the other day, at least 2 of them were in their 40s.

I have to ask....At your age, just what are you doing in an "Operational Area"?

[Vote NO]

Frank Disclosure

Yeah I guess having your collective intelligence mocked can be a little tedious.


I saw 9 (male) ATCOs wearing Flip Flops the other day, at least 2 of them were in their 40s.

You still here Frankie boy ? Are you some sort of ATCO spotter

Stick to aeroplane spotting and keep dreaming of wearing that headset


Now, where are all those monkeys that voted yes?
Your'e fired!

[GAPSTER]

9 of them! ......and at least 2 in their 40s!!

What on earth.....which watch was on??

[landedoutagain]

What on earth.....which watch was on??

I think Frank was in his beach hut, he didnt say he saw them at work...!

[ImnotanERIC]

9 males in flip flops and 2 were in their 40's. it's a disgrace. I'm contacting gok wang immediately.

[Ceannairceach]

Can someone explain to me the relevance of this ludicrous clothing thing in this thread?

Who cares what ATCOs wear? Clearly we don't, so why should anyone else?

[kats-I]

Frank disclosure

Are you with the "Fashion Police"?
And if it really bothers you what operational people wear..tell them!! (don't know what the response will be, but can imagine)
Your age is obviously a jest..but either way you are a sad (or lucky) individual if thats the only thing you have that concerns you.

[White Hart]

Dont worry Frank, there will probably be another move to get everybody into uniform when the Company is restructured, with NSL disappearing up its own ar*e, and NERL rebranded as NATS EnRoute Division, or NERD for short (the posters and brand logo should look great - how about some suggestions??)

It'll be flip flops with diamantes for all staff (to reflect the new profitable status of the Company, no doubt), but the ATCOs will obviously demand gold braid on their shorts , the cost of which will be deducted from their reduced salaries.

In the meantime, Frank, keep winding them up - it makes for a giggle if nothing else!

and the rest of you more serious types should all be thinking of what you can be doing with all that 'dry powder' you've got stored away..... no, seriously.

[Standard Noise]

Is there any spare dry powder? I'm doing a patio and the price of cement is scandalous on a Band 2 wage.

[eastern wiseguy]

I'm doing a patio

Doing a Brooky with the other union reps?

[fly bhoy]

White Hart

there will probably be another move to get everybody into uniform

Don't even joke about that as it's apparently already been mentioned at LL at management level as potentially a road to go down!! I know what my response will be, unless they're going to supply said uniforms at their expense!!!

When will people realise that it makes absolutely no difference what clothes you wear as to how good/bad you are at your job?!?

FB

[kats-I]

Amber watch at Swanwick might get a discount for a job lot from EasyJet..PB will be pleased to save some money eh?

[ImnotanERIC]

there will never be a uniform code. unless of course it was flip flops and "long?" shorts. that would be cool, even for those in their 40's.

[RPIplus1]

12.5% pay rise anyone??

It's nice to be joking around about sandals whilst information is released about the company's annual report and accounts.
http://natsnet/newsattachments/2009A...ATS_AR&A09.pdf

Anyone else fancy a 12.5% pay rise?

[Radarspod]

Now, where are all those monkeys that voted yes?

Your'e fired!

That would be over half (a majority) of ATCOs that voted then......

Think of the AAVAs!!!

[mr.777]

That would be over half (a majority) of ATCOs that voted then......

Not forgetting nearly 80% of CTC and everybody else....or were you planning to omit that minor detail??