UK - NATS Pay negotiations - latest rumours
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From: Hants
full result... I believe the vote was 53% to 47%
anyone willing to take a wager that there will be an attempt to rob the pensions again before the end of the year, citing poverty?
So, another 'yes' vote - but we will still see more jobs lost, and the remainder expected to pick up the extra tasks.
I know it's tough out there, and people may be saying we should get real, but our company is a success, no small reason for that is the work that the employees do. We're improving results year on year, paying huge dividends... we are in the real world - our 'real world' happens to be one where we are in profit,
anyone willing to take a wager that there will be an attempt to rob the pensions again before the end of the year, citing poverty?
So, another 'yes' vote - but we will still see more jobs lost, and the remainder expected to pick up the extra tasks.
I know it's tough out there, and people may be saying we should get real, but our company is a success, no small reason for that is the work that the employees do. We're improving results year on year, paying huge dividends... we are in the real world - our 'real world' happens to be one where we are in profit,
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From: swanlake
Well, not the result I hoped for but 53/47 is tighter than management might have like. Showing more than the pension how many pi$$3d off employeees they have at the moment. Well majority rules....or did it....how many did not bother to vote this time???
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From: way down south
Thanks to all those who voted yes...for nothing!!! Enjoy your 30 pieces of silver, it won't last long.
To all those who didn't vote..Don't go bleating when things get worse. You had your chance and blew it..BIG TIME!!!
At the end of the day though I do appreciate that it was your vote and you voted as you saw fit.
Just wish we didn't have to keep being put in these positions.
To all those who didn't vote..Don't go bleating when things get worse. You had your chance and blew it..BIG TIME!!!
At the end of the day though I do appreciate that it was your vote and you voted as you saw fit.
Just wish we didn't have to keep being put in these positions.
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From: In my garden shed
Anotherthing
Are your sure or just speculating? I didn't think they'd count the vote and announce until after the weekend.
Damned shame if it is a Yes vote.
PS: Mr777 we already work 6(or is it 7?) on 3 off: day7 is about 80% of a nightshift/sleep day, followed by 3 days off
full result... I believe the vote was 53% to 47%
Damned shame if it is a Yes vote.
PS: Mr777 we already work 6(or is it 7?) on 3 off: day7 is about 80% of a nightshift/sleep day, followed by 3 days off
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From: 24/7 Hardcore Heaven
Mr777 we already work 6(or is it 7?) on 3 off: day7 is about 80% of a nightshift/sleep day, followed by 3 days off
71% turnout is a disgrace in my view. Just heard a great quote from Bob Crow on 5Live.."if you're not willing to fight for your job, your pay and your pension, whats the point of being in a trade union? You might as well be in a video club." The other 29% should bear that in mind.
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From: england
After the poor turnout with the pension vote, why couldn't we have had this vote done in the ops room. God only knows why people cannot be arsed to post a freepost letter into a postbox, even just pop it into the outmail at work, but they obviously cant. I am really concerned now after losing this vote. I see RPI did better than expected this month and it is no where near the estimate of -3.9% in Aug 09. What have we done???
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From: Land of the sand people.
Another one on the chalk board for management then.
I was going to wait until I left, but as of today, union membership has been cancelled.
Good luck to all left fighting the fight, looks like you will need it!!!
I was going to wait until I left, but as of today, union membership has been cancelled.
Good luck to all left fighting the fight, looks like you will need it!!!
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From: england
Private, I am probably going to leave also as I dont see the point in paying £16 or so a month which gives me the right to have a vote, when nearly 30% of its members cannot be bothered to vote. I am more annoyed with the non voters than I am with prospect. In fact if prospect would have proposed the original derisory offer from management, that too would have been voted in, management probably knew that as did prospect. So do we owe a debt of gratitude to prospect for getting us this deal, knowing as we all know that anything would have been voted in.
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From: South of UK
when nearly 30% of its members cannot be bothered to vote
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From: way down south
Aabbcc111
If you voted no then "WE" haven't done anything..just the yes voters who really didn't look at bigger picture. Screwed again.
Del Prado
If wishes were horses tramps wouldn't walk!!! so can't change anything now.
anotherthing
Lovely ..says everything ..can we have a weekly strip (cartoon that is !!)
What have we done???
Del Prado
53/47 split? wish I'd voted now.
anotherthing
Lovely ..says everything ..can we have a weekly strip (cartoon that is !!)
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From: england
So are you saying that you would accept the result if it had been 100% turnout? Or would you still be crying foul as it wasn't what you wanted