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Old 30th Sep 2017, 17:06   #10361 (permalink)


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Hi,
Has anyone booked onto their stage 3 in November?
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 14:30   #10362 (permalink)


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Hi all!

How long did you all need to wait until NATS sent an email to self register onto a stage 2 assessment day?

Been a week since I passed the online tests and still no email regarding assessment day...
It glitched out for me and I had to go on outlook and "search the server" whatever that means and it had been sent the day after I passed the tests, mess about on outlook on your phone and you might fid it otherwise I'd phone up
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 14:51   #10363 (permalink)
 
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Hi all!

How long did you all need to wait until NATS sent an email to self register onto a stage 2 assessment day?

Been a week since I passed the online tests and still no email regarding assessment day...
Depends on how many days they have available. For me, it took two days from passing stage 1.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 22:20   #10364 (permalink)


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Passed Stage 3 back in July, have my medical this Thursday. Gave them a ring today and heard that both the November and January course start dates are filled. The wait continues
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Old 9th Oct 2017, 08:23   #10365 (permalink)
 
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Anybody down for stage 3 on the 30th Nov?
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Old 9th Oct 2017, 13:06   #10366 (permalink)


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Anybody down for stage 3 on the 30th Nov?
Hey Prototoes, I have my stage 3 on that date too so I'll see you there. Good luck!
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Old 9th Nov 2017, 11:31   #10367 (permalink)


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Hello, I've recently passed my stage 3 at NATS which I'm over the moon about, looking likely to start the course early next year. I'm starting to look at places to stay but it's quite expensive........ Can anyone give me some info on good accommodation in the area that could be cheaper thanks. Also good luck to everyone at whichever stage thy are at.
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Old 9th Nov 2017, 15:53   #10368 (permalink)
 
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Hi guys,

I am really keen to pursue a career in air traffic and am going to apply to NATS.

Can anyone advise what the initial tests are like? Ie Stage 1? Should I be doing anything to prepare myself before sitting them?

Thanks,
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Old 10th Nov 2017, 08:59   #10369 (permalink)
 
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Hi guys,

I am really keen to pursue a career in air traffic and am going to apply to NATS.

Can anyone advise what the initial tests are like? Ie Stage 1? Should I be doing anything to prepare myself before sitting them?

Thanks,
Do you know that Air Navigation Solutions at Gatwick and Edinburgh are also offering ab initio training schemes?
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Old 10th Nov 2017, 15:49   #10370 (permalink)
 
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Just out of interest do ANS candidates have to sit the same FEAST and DART tests as NATS and Eurocontrol?
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Old 12th Nov 2017, 18:07   #10371 (permalink)


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Stage 3

I had my stage 3 assessment on the 8th November last week. Has anybody else from that day had their results yet? Good luck to everyone.
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Old 14th Nov 2017, 13:35   #10372 (permalink)
 
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For anyone who has not been successful recently and unable to reapply due to the 'one chance' policy, NATS have now rescinded this and you can reapply after 12 months of being unsuccessful. I'm sure this is welcome news for some here.
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Old 19th Nov 2017, 13:31   #10373 (permalink)


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Hi Guys,

I recently attended Stage 2 and passed! I just thought I would drop a few observations about the day as I know I was confused about it beforehand and can see others are too. I won’t go into detail about the testing as everything you have access to already explains this - google search FEAST/DART for decent enough info, though stay away from the totally pointless smartphone apps. Ultimately you can’t prepare for FEAST/DART – your brain either works that way or it doesn’t, and it’s the point of the testing day to figure this out, so I wouldn’t stress about that side of things. You have no excuse to not pass the Multiple-Choice Questions though – that’s 100% in your control.

Anyways, this is my experience and may well differ from person to person/group to group, but should hopefully give you an idea:

Arrival Time – the stage 2 email confirmation isn’t explicit about what time to actually walk through the door of NATS (interestingly the stage 3 invite is). To confirm – you should arrive at 7:30am. They have an airport security style reception where you need to empty your pockets, put bags on a conveyor belt, and you walk through to be scanned by a machine and patted down by security – just like in an airport. The reason they ask you to arrive that early is because reception can get very busy at that time (as it was when I was there) and it takes a long time to get everyone through. Save yourself the stress of potentially missing the start time and get there in good time. The local taxi number is 01329 282 282 – get that in your phone now as if you don’t drive, you’ll be needing it.

Toilets – go to the toilet whenever they offer it, regardless of whether or not you need to go – squeeze whatever you have in you out. Seriously. The security level at NATS means that the testing group is on an ‘accompany at all times’ pass. This means that a member of staff must go with you everywhere and at all times. Now, as there’s only 1 member of staff that starts the day off with you, you all have to be escorted as a group. So if you need the loo – everyone’s going with you, or they will have to find another member of staff to take you out of the room. Either doesn’t look great for you, and they don’t pause the test once it starts so you would be screwed. So once you have been collected from reception and go up to around the testing room, they will offer you a toilet visit before going in, and you won’t be out again as a group for another 2.5 hours – so go then (let’s just say I regretted not taking them up on this offer – I was about ready to burst, as were others).

Phones/Belongings – you are asked to turn off your phones and put them, along with any bags etc in a box at the front of the room. You won’t have access to these for the rest of the day. You are however allowed to keep a bottle of water with you if you bought one, though it must have a screw top lid.

Removal from the process – once you complete the multiple-choice questions AND FEAST, is when the group is told who has passed and who hasn’t. It is a bit brutal – someone (who is monitoring what you are doing in the next room) comes in after the last person finishes (everyone in your group will finish at different times) and reads out who needs to leave the building with them. I’m sure it feels a bit sucky for those who are asked to leave, but there’s no other way of doing it.

Breaks – If you pass the MCQ’s and FEAST you will then get a break of around half an hour. At this point we all scrambled to the toilet, were taken for a glass of water, and sat with the member of staff who had just escorted the failed candidates out. This is so the person doing your tests can set up DART. This is your opportunity to eat if you want to, and we all just had an informal chat about NATS/our backgrounds etc – nothing scary. Grab something to eat at this point if you like, and don’t be frightened to ask to go to the loo again if you need it – you won’t be out for another couple of hours.

Refreshments – when the email says there is only 1 vending machine, they mean it. The vending machine doesn’t have anything like sandwiches etc in – it’s just crisps/chocolate bars, and theres no canteen or anything. One guy in our group hoped to grab some lunch whilst he was there – no dice. So either bring something with you, or be prepared to live off salt and sugar for the day.

Finish – once DARTS over with, you have a little debrief and are escorted from the building. We finished about 2pm, but this would vary depending on the group and everyone’s finish times. There’s a large shopping mall/cinema across the road – perfect to go and grab some food and calm your brain down after what is an incredibly challenging, however thoroughly enjoyable day.

Apologies for the length of this, but hope that helps some of you. I’ll be back to let everyone know how stage 3 is laid out (I won’t go into detail about actual testing). But feel free to drop me a message if any of this needs expanding on.
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Old 19th Nov 2017, 13:40   #10374 (permalink)


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NATS interview

Hi all!
I am invited to an interview for ATCO-job with NATS at Prestwick.
Anyone here from NATS that I can ask a few questions about the job, company etc?

Thnx
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Old 19th Nov 2017, 22:56   #10375 (permalink)


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I'm turning 18 in January, and I'm definitely applying, however small the chance of success is. But I want to ask, how many younger applications are there? And how much of a disadvantage is it being straight out of college?
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Old 20th Nov 2017, 11:54   #10376 (permalink)


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@ ATCOnoob1 - Very sound advice there re Stage 2! In particular the toilets part! I'd add that parking in Whiteley shopping village is limited to 6 hours, whereas the day is 7-8hrs if you pass everything. I did manage to talk myself out of a ticket by going to the Whiteley village office afterwards. Not being able to use my phone to avoid a potential parking fee added stress to the FEAST/DART though!

I've got Stage 3 on 22nd Nov. If anyone else is in the same boat, good luck to you and see you there!

As a summary of the last 20 pages of this forum:
- Plenty of sound Stage 2 advice.
- Pretty much zero info on Stage 3.

@Tawnyyy - I'm 37 and was pretty much the oldest in my Stage 2 group. Most people were around 25, at a guess. There was one 18 year old guy from Brighton there but he failed the multiple choice bit and was sent home early - nothing to do with his age. You can re-apply after a year now, anyway (see NATS Careers FB page). Getting some more "life experience" may help at the Stage 3 interview stage, for real life problem solving examples, I'd guess.
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Old 20th Nov 2017, 18:38   #10377 (permalink)


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Stage 3

I was lucky enough to pass the stage 3 assessment only last week. For anyone else who has got to this stage, how long was it before you were allocated a course date?

Regarding stage 3, I would second what others have said regarding long periods of waiting around, I was waiting for 2 hours before the first part of the day so take something to read. Get a good nights sleep the night before is my advice! I think the key is not to panic or rush yourself; give yourself time to think of answers during the interviews. I came out without a clue which way it had gone, infact I was more sure that I'd completely messed it up.

Good luck to everyone whatever stage you are at.
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Old 23rd Nov 2017, 11:21   #10378 (permalink)


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Passed my stage 3 (attended 1st November, found out on 6th). Was told to expect start in March but not yet confirmed. Medical in Jan.
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Old 23rd Nov 2017, 17:18   #10379 (permalink)
 
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Does anyone know how long they waited to find out they passed stage 2? I did mine today and got through to DART. Slightly concerned as had a few errors...
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Old 23rd Nov 2017, 17:58   #10380 (permalink)


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For anyone who has not been successful recently and unable to reapply due to the 'one chance' policy, NATS have now rescinded this and you can reapply after 12 months of being unsuccessful. I'm sure this is welcome news for some here.
Hi,

I read with interest Kirsteneg's post mentioning that you can now reapply after 12 months of being unsuccessful. I failed at stage 2 almost a year ago and am very keen to apply again.

Is this change of policy in place yet? On the NATS website it still states that you can only apply once but I guess if it's a recent change they may not have updated the website yet.
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