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yep it applies to everyone.
You could call it unfair, but consider the fact that they aren't obliged to let you re-apply in the first place.
Won't make the wait any more fun though. I was able to re-apply 23 months after my first application, due to the closure of the application process. I'm glad I don't have to do that again...i'm not getting any younger!
You could call it unfair, but consider the fact that they aren't obliged to let you re-apply in the first place.
Won't make the wait any more fun though. I was able to re-apply 23 months after my first application, due to the closure of the application process. I'm glad I don't have to do that again...i'm not getting any younger!
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@FAMZY
No , it doesn't matter when you apply . This goes retroactive , not only for the ones who apply after 1st of April 2013. If you applied in november 2012 you can reapply in november 2014 .
I talked to HR alot about this matter until we clarified it . You can reapply now if you applied last year in febuary , but if you applied in April or later 2012 its 24 month waiting time for you .
No , it doesn't matter when you apply . This goes retroactive , not only for the ones who apply after 1st of April 2013. If you applied in november 2012 you can reapply in november 2014 .
I talked to HR alot about this matter until we clarified it . You can reapply now if you applied last year in febuary , but if you applied in April or later 2012 its 24 month waiting time for you .
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Hi there, just booked my stage 1 for the 26th in Southampton.
Was just wondering if anyone could recommend any good apps for the iphone for practicing the diagramming and cubes, would be great to practice on the go.
Good Luck to everyone with up coming assessments.
Omar.
Was just wondering if anyone could recommend any good apps for the iphone for practicing the diagramming and cubes, would be great to practice on the go.
Good Luck to everyone with up coming assessments.
Omar.
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Diagramming
Is the diagramming section presented with commands in circles as in the examples?
Or are there some examples like the first few on this website ?
http://www.psychometric-success.com/...20Test%201.pdf
Thanks for any help
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Or are there some examples like the first few on this website ?
http://www.psychometric-success.com/...20Test%201.pdf
Thanks for any help
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Hi, just a quick question for those that have done their stage 1 assessments. Can I use a calculator/do I need to bring one? I can't find any information in the emails or on the website. The search function on this forum doesn't seem to work either.
Is anyone down to do their Stage 1 in Southampton on Monday? I'm surprised that there's still so many timeslots available. When I went 18 months ago there was only about 12 of us and that was fully booked.
Is anyone down to do their Stage 1 in Southampton on Monday? I'm surprised that there's still so many timeslots available. When I went 18 months ago there was only about 12 of us and that was fully booked.
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Fuel Questions response
Distance = 924 Nautical Miles
Speed = 1260kts (kts = Nautical Miles per hour)
Fuel Burn = 210Kgs per hr
Without Calculator
You are travelling at 1260kts. You cover 1260 NM in an Hour
924NM is approximately ¾ of 1260NM, or 75% = 45mins
45mins or 75% of 210Kgs (which you burn an HOUR) = 157.5kgs
With Calculator
924/1260 X 60 = 43.99998 mins (or 44 mins)
210/60 x 44 = 154Kgs
If you crosscheck with your approximation of 75% equalling 924NM, you will realise 75% is actually just over 924NM, i.e. 1260/4 x 3 = 945NM (as opposed to 924NM). I would simply deduct 1 minute from 45mins to give me 44mins and run the sums. You would get 154Kgs Fuel Burn.
Speed = 1260kts (kts = Nautical Miles per hour)
Fuel Burn = 210Kgs per hr
Without Calculator
You are travelling at 1260kts. You cover 1260 NM in an Hour
924NM is approximately ¾ of 1260NM, or 75% = 45mins
45mins or 75% of 210Kgs (which you burn an HOUR) = 157.5kgs
With Calculator
924/1260 X 60 = 43.99998 mins (or 44 mins)
210/60 x 44 = 154Kgs
If you crosscheck with your approximation of 75% equalling 924NM, you will realise 75% is actually just over 924NM, i.e. 1260/4 x 3 = 945NM (as opposed to 924NM). I would simply deduct 1 minute from 45mins to give me 44mins and run the sums. You would get 154Kgs Fuel Burn.
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I have just taken the test at Sheffield at 1pm. I think it went well, got through to the secondary tests anyway.
Now just have to wait 15 days (or possibly 30 as they explained due to the fact they are out around the country supervising tests) until I find out how I have done.
The diagramming was quite straight forward but the the cubes were a nightmare. I only answered around 3/4 of the questions in each test but I'm hoping they don't expect people to finish as it's a trade off between accuracy and speed.
I was surprised by how many people left after the motivation test because if you have read the document then most of the answers should come to mind immediately, leaving you time to concentrate on the ones that are less straight forward.
Best of luck to everyone still to take their tests and those waiting for results. If any of us make it to stage 2 it would be nice to meet up Apparently stage 2 tests will run during February and March. And also, as confirmed by others, the 24 months before you can apply again is true. They told us before the secondary tests.
Now just have to wait 15 days (or possibly 30 as they explained due to the fact they are out around the country supervising tests) until I find out how I have done.
The diagramming was quite straight forward but the the cubes were a nightmare. I only answered around 3/4 of the questions in each test but I'm hoping they don't expect people to finish as it's a trade off between accuracy and speed.
I was surprised by how many people left after the motivation test because if you have read the document then most of the answers should come to mind immediately, leaving you time to concentrate on the ones that are less straight forward.
Best of luck to everyone still to take their tests and those waiting for results. If any of us make it to stage 2 it would be nice to meet up Apparently stage 2 tests will run during February and March. And also, as confirmed by others, the 24 months before you can apply again is true. They told us before the secondary tests.
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Hey guys, I applied and got invited today to the Stage 1, but the latest I can attend is the 26th Feb! Thats 5 days time! Is that even enough time for me to revise this 24 page paper and practice my spatial awareness? Or is it worth me giving them a call to try and arrange a later date? (if one exists) Trying to get some opinions on whether its worth me even making the trip! Thanks, Dan
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Hey Dan, I'm in the same boat, I applied somewhat speculatively after speaking to a friend in the role already, only a couple of weeks ago.
The combination of that and my work email address which I used to sign up being down all week has resulted in me arriving in work tonight to a congratulations email but only 2 dates available, one in Birmigham tomorrow after i've finished a night shift and one in Southampton on Tuesday which is nigh impossible to get to with my work pattern.
Sadly i think I'm going to have to take my chances and sit this round out even with the prospect of things being Frozen in March. This is for the best, this job interests me massively but i'd much prefer to have a good old research and have plenty of time to study before committing to the stage 1, especially now its a 24 month wait between failed applications.
Can any of the longer serving members of this forum advise me to how they define "frozen" with respect to applications. If i leave the stage 1 dates bit blank as recommended rather than declining, could anyone hazard a guess if and or when it may have future dates to pick from?
I only ask because I did many years ago want to become a firefighter in my county but the recruitment process was also frozen, so frosty was it that i don't think it has in fact thawed yet some 8 years later.
I know the cause of this in the fire service has been drastic shift changes and may things that all contribute. Essentially i guess i'd like to know (if its something someone can tell me?) is the recruitment likely to be frozen indefinitely for a period of years?
Sincere thanks for any help and best of luck to all that have taken or are about to take your tests.
The combination of that and my work email address which I used to sign up being down all week has resulted in me arriving in work tonight to a congratulations email but only 2 dates available, one in Birmigham tomorrow after i've finished a night shift and one in Southampton on Tuesday which is nigh impossible to get to with my work pattern.
Sadly i think I'm going to have to take my chances and sit this round out even with the prospect of things being Frozen in March. This is for the best, this job interests me massively but i'd much prefer to have a good old research and have plenty of time to study before committing to the stage 1, especially now its a 24 month wait between failed applications.
Can any of the longer serving members of this forum advise me to how they define "frozen" with respect to applications. If i leave the stage 1 dates bit blank as recommended rather than declining, could anyone hazard a guess if and or when it may have future dates to pick from?
I only ask because I did many years ago want to become a firefighter in my county but the recruitment process was also frozen, so frosty was it that i don't think it has in fact thawed yet some 8 years later.
I know the cause of this in the fire service has been drastic shift changes and may things that all contribute. Essentially i guess i'd like to know (if its something someone can tell me?) is the recruitment likely to be frozen indefinitely for a period of years?
Sincere thanks for any help and best of luck to all that have taken or are about to take your tests.
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Thanks for your reply, I guess I'll have to take what I given! Would you say it's possible to revise for in 4 days?! I can do 5 hours tonight, Saturday, Sunday and on the way to the test!
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What was so hard about the cubes? Did you practice with the SkyTest software, and if so were they harder than those?
I'm on for Stage 1 in two hours... fingers crossed!
I'm on for Stage 1 in two hours... fingers crossed!
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NATS freeze!
I have a problem regarding the freeze! NATS would be the only way I can get into ATC due to the cost of training elsewhere, and I would absolutely love to do it! The problem is, I only turn 18 in March - so I am unable to apply! I've looked everywhere and NATS hasn't seemed to have hinted when they will open up recruitment again. It will be a major blow for me! I'd hate to have to wait any longer to apply!
Anyone have any advice? Everyone who's going through assessments now, goodluck!
Anyone have any advice? Everyone who's going through assessments now, goodluck!
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Heard about these forums yesterday when down in Sheffield attending Stage 1. I was in the 2 o'clock group.
I was worried about the ATC paper beforehand as I'd only managed to look at the material for the first time yesterday morning due to family issues but found it to be straightforward. Around half of the group failed to pass this part which I found astonishing.
2nd part I finished in plenty of time and was confident I got them all right.
Then the cubes, oh god the cubes.
I started okay but when I turned to answer number 29 I had already filled out 32 answers 
Little panic at this stage as I try and find where I'd gone wrong so I started working back from 32 and calmed down. Managed to get a few done before the time was up. Could have kicked myself when leaving.
Woke up this morning still annoyed at myself. Went to check my emails and I already have one saying I've passed and to attend Stage 2 We were told it would be 15 days probably but could be more due to the volume of applicants at the moment. I'm even happier than I would have been given my mistake and I won't need to be annoyed with myself for weeks waiting on the outcome.
I was worried about the ATC paper beforehand as I'd only managed to look at the material for the first time yesterday morning due to family issues but found it to be straightforward. Around half of the group failed to pass this part which I found astonishing.
2nd part I finished in plenty of time and was confident I got them all right.
Then the cubes, oh god the cubes.
I started okay but when I turned to answer number 29 I had already filled out 32 answers Little panic at this stage as I try and find where I'd gone wrong so I started working back from 32 and calmed down. Managed to get a few done before the time was up. Could have kicked myself when leaving.Woke up this morning still annoyed at myself. Went to check my emails and I already have one saying I've passed and to attend Stage 2
We were told it would be 15 days probably but could be more due to the volume of applicants at the moment. I'm even happier than I would have been given my mistake and I won't need to be annoyed with myself for weeks waiting on the outcome.