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I have just heard that ASA will be look at accepting 20 RAAF controllers this year. Not sure if this means the government has stepped in to keep things under control (as both ASA and DoD are obviously both Gov. Departments). Iknow that there are many RAAF controllers who have submitted applications, wondering if this would have an impact on the "genesis" integration project?
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Slusher, it sounds to me like AsA are allowed to take 20 currently serving RAAFies. However, you are free to resign, with three months notice of course, and get a job wherever the hell you want. I don't think it would be legal for AsA to descriminate on you based on where you used to work. I'd like to see them try it - would make an interesting court case....
Resign now, and tell AsA you have resigned. If the course doesn't happen within three months, just extend your resignation date - the RAAF will keep you for as long as it can. No one can tell you what to do or where you can and can't go AFTER you have resigned! Don't resign to go to the job, just resign, and hey, look, what's this letter in the mail I wonder? A job....for me? Wow! There's no compultion to tell the RAAF why you're heading off.
Cheers,
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Resign now, and tell AsA you have resigned. If the course doesn't happen within three months, just extend your resignation date - the RAAF will keep you for as long as it can. No one can tell you what to do or where you can and can't go AFTER you have resigned! Don't resign to go to the job, just resign, and hey, look, what's this letter in the mail I wonder? A job....for me? Wow! There's no compultion to tell the RAAF why you're heading off.
Cheers,
NFR.
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Thanks for the advice, but I have been out and with ASA for the last few years. Was basically trying to find out if anyone else had heard anything as I have many emails hitting my inbox from friends still in the blue suit.
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Willytown are now opening 6am to 10pm local every day next week with weekend hours to be determined after further hazard identification. Where are all the staff coming from??
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No mate
it is Williamtown airbase just north of Newcastle in NSW, run by military controllers only (AT THIS STAGE)
have any of you SA guys thought of joining the RAAF as controllers? You will be required to get citizenship, and guess what they help you get it straight away (no having to wait the required 3 or so years as a permanent resident) you do your few years with them, pay is OK thenwill most likely welcomed by ASA, and guess what you will be eligible for DHA housing where youpay only about $150 pw rent they pay the rest?
Maybe you guys who miss out should think this one through, the RAAF are extremely short of staff at this time!
cheers
it is Williamtown airbase just north of Newcastle in NSW, run by military controllers only (AT THIS STAGE)
have any of you SA guys thought of joining the RAAF as controllers? You will be required to get citizenship, and guess what they help you get it straight away (no having to wait the required 3 or so years as a permanent resident) you do your few years with them, pay is OK thenwill most likely welcomed by ASA, and guess what you will be eligible for DHA housing where youpay only about $150 pw rent they pay the rest?
Maybe you guys who miss out should think this one through, the RAAF are extremely short of staff at this time!
cheers
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Hey guys!
Did anyone get an acknowledgement of receipt of their documents from ASA? I'm sure they've had a shed-load of applicants but it would be nice to know they got them!
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Did anyone get an acknowledgement of receipt of their documents from ASA? I'm sure they've had a shed-load of applicants but it would be nice to know they got them!
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Thanks, I'm thinking of Fort William. I have considered going SAAF and then RAAF to get into ASA and that might still be the route if unsuccessfull over the next few months. We have had a handfull of our military guys walk across to the RAAF so definately an option.
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As for acknowledgement of 'past experienced', yes I got it. I did email off my stuff asap and it got ackowledged around 20 Dec. A friend here emailed off his things about 10 days after me and is still awaiting answer. It might just be a back log they're wading through.
Thanks, I'm thinking of Fort William. I have considered going SAAF and then RAAF to get into ASA and that might still be the route if unsuccessfull over the next few months. We have had a handfull of our military guys walk across to the RAAF so definately an option.
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As for acknowledgement of 'past experienced', yes I got it. I did email off my stuff asap and it got ackowledged around 20 Dec. A friend here emailed off his things about 10 days after me and is still awaiting answer. It might just be a back log they're wading through.
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Here we are again! Does anyone know when the online test will start? I know there are also controllers interested with tower control and approach...
Let' think about that....which are the numbers? How many enroute? Tower and approach? Will they be gathered together or divided in groups depending on their skill? The online test will be only psycometric? Concerning with the interview, will it be to test our skill, or only to have an idea of our job habitat? I've searched on the net, but it seems to be one of the mystery of life. 
Please help us! WE're ready to migrate and to follow one of the best suggest to not whore ourselves... We're still searching infos that maybe for most of you are evident...but we live on the other side of the world and for sure ASA policy is different from ours(I hope).
Cheers from Italy
Let' think about that....which are the numbers? How many enroute? Tower and approach? Will they be gathered together or divided in groups depending on their skill? The online test will be only psycometric? Concerning with the interview, will it be to test our skill, or only to have an idea of our job habitat? I've searched on the net, but it seems to be one of the mystery of life. Please help us! WE're ready to migrate and to follow one of the best suggest to not whore ourselves... We're still searching infos that maybe for most of you are evident...but we live on the other side of the world and for sure ASA policy is different from ours(I hope). Cheers from Italy
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Wizblade,
Maaaaattttttteeeeee!!!!!!! If we had info we'd give it to you; I would like to have holidays sometime this decade etc. We ATCs in oz want help (like many other places in the world); just don't do it for peanuts, hold out for the top increment; don't seem too desparate, put on your best poker face; you're making the sacrifice moving countrys etc.
I'm guessing, but they need enroute area and TMA (Tracon/terminal)controllers more than tower bodies. There is a concept of releasing current Enroute Area staff to other locations (particularly towers) when they 'backfill' with OS controllers (this is 2-3 years away before getting ratings in other locations). Do I trust them to get it right, awsure...
Do I trust them to take enroute area (radar and non radar controllers) and not tower staff, awsure.... See above re time frames...
At the moment, there is a management restructure going on, splitting the ATC setup into 3 groups. ECS (East Coast Services, radar only, CTA only, including most Radar towers); UAS (Upper Airspace Services, Non Radar, ADS-B, ADS-C, high level) and RS (Regional Services, everywhere else, including Perth CTA and TOWER). Establishing people into these groups will takes heaps of valuable training; it's reconfiguring all the sectors to fit in the new concept. All the while training of the newbie’s is going off (about 1 in 12 ATCs will be a new trainee by the end of this year)...
Combine this with all the managers of operational staff potentially losing their jobs, getting new ones in the new structure, new contracts /responsibilities etc. is leading to very low morale (and very few 'believe' the ideas are valid). Then there is the biggest con of all; new technology will facilitate all this; yeah well maybe after 2010 (certainly not before) and only after throwing serious coin at it and they really want it to happen (ie spend the money).
So what happens next; hope the HR clowns, with all their bright ideas, get it right, stop all the rubbish, concentrate on "core" business (I'm not going to hold my breath).
I wish you luck, but maaaaatttttteeeeee, they have no idea what it is they are about to do; let alone have any answers for 6 to 12 months time.
So does this sound like management at home; or any other ATC management world wide, I suspect so.
Goodluck.
Maaaaattttttteeeeee!!!!!!! If we had info we'd give it to you; I would like to have holidays sometime this decade etc. We ATCs in oz want help (like many other places in the world); just don't do it for peanuts, hold out for the top increment; don't seem too desparate, put on your best poker face; you're making the sacrifice moving countrys etc.
I'm guessing, but they need enroute area and TMA (Tracon/terminal)controllers more than tower bodies. There is a concept of releasing current Enroute Area staff to other locations (particularly towers) when they 'backfill' with OS controllers (this is 2-3 years away before getting ratings in other locations). Do I trust them to get it right, awsure...
Do I trust them to take enroute area (radar and non radar controllers) and not tower staff, awsure.... See above re time frames...
At the moment, there is a management restructure going on, splitting the ATC setup into 3 groups. ECS (East Coast Services, radar only, CTA only, including most Radar towers); UAS (Upper Airspace Services, Non Radar, ADS-B, ADS-C, high level) and RS (Regional Services, everywhere else, including Perth CTA and TOWER). Establishing people into these groups will takes heaps of valuable training; it's reconfiguring all the sectors to fit in the new concept. All the while training of the newbie’s is going off (about 1 in 12 ATCs will be a new trainee by the end of this year)...
Combine this with all the managers of operational staff potentially losing their jobs, getting new ones in the new structure, new contracts /responsibilities etc. is leading to very low morale (and very few 'believe' the ideas are valid). Then there is the biggest con of all; new technology will facilitate all this; yeah well maybe after 2010 (certainly not before) and only after throwing serious coin at it and they really want it to happen (ie spend the money).
So what happens next; hope the HR clowns, with all their bright ideas, get it right, stop all the rubbish, concentrate on "core" business (I'm not going to hold my breath).
I wish you luck, but maaaaatttttteeeeee, they have no idea what it is they are about to do; let alone have any answers for 6 to 12 months time.
So does this sound like management at home; or any other ATC management world wide, I suspect so.
Goodluck.
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Hi SM4 Pirate. Thanks a lot! In this thread i've found lot of the infos i was searching for. I've understood that Asa policy is quite similar to Enav. Anyway i'll wear my poker face to get the best match! I'm interested with enroute place, just because at present i'm employed in Milan Radar centre. I know that only few of all the applicants are convinced to make the jump! You know one day you say: Hey guys Australia is searching for controllers, i'm going to try.... After one week as a sort of chain effect or if u prefer "sheep effect" about 20 of us filled the apply form!" 
It would be nice to have an italian colony on the other side of the planet, but my sensation is that only 5-6 of us are really convinced to do it for real. My skin sensation is to look for Brisbane centre...
sounds good! I really would like to live in a sub tropical climate, but at present also Melbourne would be nice. The problem will be to move all your "life" over there, and I think that during the interview they'll have to give the right weight to it! I hope to have the chance to look behind and say: It was the right choice
but my sensation is that it won't be so simple as they make it appear. Thanks to all The Aussies that are supporting our questions. Hope to have a beer with lot of you, and also a surf or Kite tutor! There's anyone of u that ride motorbikes over there? In case of coming there, i'll leave my team here
, but i'll bring my Fireblade with me.
It would be nice to have an italian colony on the other side of the planet, but my sensation is that only 5-6 of us are really convinced to do it for real. My skin sensation is to look for Brisbane centre... sounds good! I really would like to live in a sub tropical climate, but at present also Melbourne would be nice. The problem will be to move all your "life" over there, and I think that during the interview they'll have to give the right weight to it! I hope to have the chance to look behind and say: It was the right choice but my sensation is that it won't be so simple as they make it appear. Thanks to all The Aussies that are supporting our questions. Hope to have a beer with lot of you, and also a surf or Kite tutor! There's anyone of u that ride motorbikes over there? In case of coming there, i'll leave my team here , but i'll bring my Fireblade with me.
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Knackers,
"There are big Italian clubs in every major city in Oz. "
I hope you are meaning the socialising variety because the Football variety there is NO division anymore
Or so we think
"There are big Italian clubs in every major city in Oz. "
I hope you are meaning the socialising variety because the Football variety there is NO division anymore
Or so we think
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GREAAAAAT!!! I'm not definitely interested in football. I hope to socialise with Italians but especially with Australians. I love Italy, but if it should be, i'd like to integrate in the new reality... it would be nice to have meeting in some circuit over there. I'll make the research and thanks to Nuckinfuts i've already found something interesting near Brisbane. OOOPSS maybe i should begin thinking something else. I know there are lot of bikers over there...hope to join the journey! Anyway it seems to be a great place. Thanks a lot...let u know
OOOPSS maybe i should begin thinking something else. I know there are lot of bikers over there...hope to join the journey! Anyway it seems to be a great place. Thanks a lot...let u know
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Just heard from ASA that they DIDN'T receive my documents & asking me to re-send them.Guys, if you've sent off your operational documentation but not heard anything yet I'd advise you to check that it was received!