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Dunno........
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Deep breaths Mr Paranoid.
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That post was propably made by your standard Australian homophobe who consider South Africans as the scum of the earth
Deep breaths Mr Paranoid.
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Gidday Mates!
Very few Good controllers left in SA (all looking for greener and safer places) and the rumour that even the guys in Cape town are now leaving should indicate that you soon will have more South African Cv's.(Good thing, we work hard and are very cheap .......but not easy or is it easy but not cheap
Jo burg has the Eurocat system and Cape town As well! Thales also have a South African System engineer From SA working for them Down Under!
We also need a fly half, some forwards, a centre a full back and a new coach. Could you guys please send back the Zambian born Georgie to come help out in SA.
PS ATC GROVE...... ANGOLA (Africa) MONGOLIA (Russia) not Angolia mate!
Heard the ASA also looking for guys from Lebanon!!!! This should get you going!
Have to also say the POMS moan to much and they can not stand the "Heat" send them all back. Leave the Southern part of the world to those that drink cold beer and like hot woman not the other way round.
Very few Good controllers left in SA (all looking for greener and safer places) and the rumour that even the guys in Cape town are now leaving should indicate that you soon will have more South African Cv's.(Good thing, we work hard and are very cheap .......but not easy or is it easy but not cheap
Jo burg has the Eurocat system and Cape town As well! Thales also have a South African System engineer From SA working for them Down Under!
We also need a fly half, some forwards, a centre a full back and a new coach. Could you guys please send back the Zambian born Georgie to come help out in SA.
PS ATC GROVE...... ANGOLA (Africa) MONGOLIA (Russia) not Angolia mate!
Heard the ASA also looking for guys from Lebanon!!!! This should get you going!
Have to also say the POMS moan to much and they can not stand the "Heat" send them all back. Leave the Southern part of the world to those that drink cold beer and like hot woman not the other way round.
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Dct,
With all due respect to George (he's had an amazing career) he's hung around just a wee bit too long. You can have him.
ASA's global search for controllers, a cynical exercise perhaps? With the CANSO wankers banding together to fix wages and not poach?
My group has been short staffed since TAAATS transition (6 years or so?) A little late to recruit now isn't it boys? Or are the recruits going to get all the jobs on the employment opportunities board the rest of us can't be released for?
mmmmmmmmmm
With all due respect to George (he's had an amazing career) he's hung around just a wee bit too long. You can have him.
ASA's global search for controllers, a cynical exercise perhaps? With the CANSO wankers banding together to fix wages and not poach?
My group has been short staffed since TAAATS transition (6 years or so?) A little late to recruit now isn't it boys? Or are the recruits going to get all the jobs on the employment opportunities board the rest of us can't be released for?
mmmmmmmmmm
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I don't really think it was a pop and Sth. Africans at all Mr Vox.
Seems to be a bit of an exodus from there of late (Dct no speed kinda supports this with his last post).
Interesting.
Seems to be a bit of an exodus from there of late (Dct no speed kinda supports this with his last post).
Interesting.
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The bit I am wondering about is the part about having to meet Australian Immigration requirements. Now up till now ASA hasn't employed you unless you were able to get permanent residency, and you couldn't get residency without the job, so catch 22 for all my Sth African colleagues trying to come to a country with a decent rugby and cricket team. Has that changed and under this new search will ASA be able to open the flood gates and employ guys without residency and then help them get it once employed.
Either way, I'm still enjoying the sandpit way too much to come back for a massive paycut, so tax free living for me for a while longer.
Either way, I'm still enjoying the sandpit way too much to come back for a massive paycut, so tax free living for me for a while longer.
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ASA states on their website that they will sponsor non-residents until they have satisfied their and immigration's requirements.
Having read the post again I understand that The Groove was not being derogatery. Sorry again. I do have a serious beef with the English at this point in time. I think I will go and visit an establishment of ill repute now to further drown my sorrows. Damn English.
Having read the post again I understand that The Groove was not being derogatery. Sorry again. I do have a serious beef with the English at this point in time. I think I will go and visit an establishment of ill repute now to further drown my sorrows. Damn English.
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I wonder if some of the large number of Aussies in Hong Kong might be tempted.The money isn't great but if you've got a few gratuities stashed away,then it might be just be all the bait that's needed.HK might be in trouble.
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Just for the record, it was in no way meant as a negative comment.
Allow me to explain......
I have just returned from Cape Town, having spent time with controllers from CT, J'burg, George and from my discussions with them, they are very unhappy with their employer. They have some 370 odd controllers for the whole country and J'burg is way busier than Sydney.
The country is incredibly unsafe to live, they use Eurocat (even though not fully stripless yet!!!) and the climate is very similar in OZ.
All this lead to me thinkin that we would have many of them apply (and I think we will) and come to Australia.
From meeting the President and vicepresident and other members of the guild, they are amazing people who we would love to have here in Oz, infact they would be come a real asset to our company.
Some of our best friends here in Oz are South African's and my boy knows enought Africaans to be cheeky!!!!
Please come, (Stu and the guys) you would be more than welcome to have a Braai at my place drinking castle lager and having MrsBalls on your Baudesvaus?? (your great national sausage, sorry about the spelling!!).
Thanks
Groove
Allow me to explain......
I have just returned from Cape Town, having spent time with controllers from CT, J'burg, George and from my discussions with them, they are very unhappy with their employer. They have some 370 odd controllers for the whole country and J'burg is way busier than Sydney.
The country is incredibly unsafe to live, they use Eurocat (even though not fully stripless yet!!!) and the climate is very similar in OZ.
All this lead to me thinkin that we would have many of them apply (and I think we will) and come to Australia.
From meeting the President and vicepresident and other members of the guild, they are amazing people who we would love to have here in Oz, infact they would be come a real asset to our company.
Some of our best friends here in Oz are South African's and my boy knows enought Africaans to be cheeky!!!!
Please come, (Stu and the guys) you would be more than welcome to have a Braai at my place drinking castle lager and having MrsBalls on your Baudesvaus?? (your great national sausage, sorry about the spelling!!).
Thanks
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So! With umpteen years experience, I'll get the highest pay level they have for a radar controller then they'll.....pay my way back home and.....put me up in a nice hotel for what.....3 to 4 weeks to find a house or a rental?
Hmmmmm..... me thinks they might take the winner of the lowest bid.
Cynical.....HELL YES!
If they are REEEAAALLLY serious then I would be expecting a job offer any minute now.....about now.....sshhh.....here it comes.....nooo.....ooh.....ZZZZzzzz.....
Hmmmmm..... me thinks they might take the winner of the lowest bid.
Cynical.....HELL YES!
If they are REEEAAALLLY serious then I would be expecting a job offer any minute now.....about now.....sshhh.....here it comes.....nooo.....ooh.....ZZZZzzzz.....
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DCT No Speed,
The last thing we want is controllers coming here who advertise themselves as 'cheap'.
It's hard enough trying to keep our salaries up just with inflation without having to fight a race to the bottom attitude.
But we do need people who can do the job well and expect to be paid properly, wherever they come from.
However:
I don't agree. Any reasonably sized family house in an area close enough to work is going to start around 500-600K these days.
Beaches? Not in Brisbane I am sorry. Melbourne and Brisbane are the main centres - both are very different cities, and equally appealing but for different reasons.
The last thing we want is controllers coming here who advertise themselves as 'cheap'.
It's hard enough trying to keep our salaries up just with inflation without having to fight a race to the bottom attitude.
But we do need people who can do the job well and expect to be paid properly, wherever they come from.
However:
On that salary living in Brisbane you could easily afford a house and send your kids to private school.
Beaches? Not in Brisbane I am sorry. Melbourne and Brisbane are the main centres - both are very different cities, and equally appealing but for different reasons.
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Hi All
There is a fair amount of interest here regarding potential jobs in OZ. I spoke today with collegue who was talking to ASA earlier in the year, he stated that as Kiwi's we still have to go through the residency process. Are any of you able to confirm this?
What's driving this latest recruitment? I understand that ASA have plans to centralise operations to Melbourne and Brisbane and that many ATC's in Sydney are unwilling to relocate, particularly to Melbourne. Is this ASA's way of working around this?
What are the chances of direct hire to Brisbane rather than Melbourne?
Rumour control has it that ASA and Airways NZ have a 'no poaching staff' agreement, have any of you heard of this?
TP
There is a fair amount of interest here regarding potential jobs in OZ. I spoke today with collegue who was talking to ASA earlier in the year, he stated that as Kiwi's we still have to go through the residency process. Are any of you able to confirm this?
What's driving this latest recruitment? I understand that ASA have plans to centralise operations to Melbourne and Brisbane and that many ATC's in Sydney are unwilling to relocate, particularly to Melbourne. Is this ASA's way of working around this?
What are the chances of direct hire to Brisbane rather than Melbourne?
Rumour control has it that ASA and Airways NZ have a 'no poaching staff' agreement, have any of you heard of this?
TP
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What's driving this latest recruitment?
We have heaps of training to do to reform the 'business', so we are 2010 and beyond 'ready', (ie make it cheaper for the airlines and make it more expensive for GA); age profile, particularly in towers is seriously slanted to late 70s (some earlier than that!, get out of those towers boys the C&SS pensions / defined pensions are worth taking while you're young (LOL) enough to enjoy them) and early 80s recruits.
I understand that ASA have plans to centralise operations to Melbourne and Brisbane and that many ATC's in Sydney are unwilling to relocate, particularly to Melbourne. Is this ASA's way of working around this?
What are the chances of direct hire to Brisbane rather than Melbourne?
Rumour control has it that ASA and Airways NZ have a 'no poaching staff' agreement, have any of you heard of this?
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Pirate, cheers for the info
Is there much of a waiting list to get to towers such as Coolangata or Sunshine Coast or are they considered the 'plum' pre-retirement spots?
Is there much of a waiting list to get to towers such as Coolangata or Sunshine Coast or are they considered the 'plum' pre-retirement spots?
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Not a waiting list per se, but usually plenty of interest when vacancies do arise. Less so for Rocky, Mackay, or even Hamilton Island from current TWR staff.
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Less so for Rocky, Mackay, or even Hamilton Island from current TWR staff.
Nice....
Warm up the barbie for those prawns and chill off the bevvies 'cos I reckon you may see a few of us across that way fella's.
assuming we would be welcome!
Airways NZ.... last one out turn off the lights!!
Warm up the barbie for those prawns and chill off the bevvies 'cos I reckon you may see a few of us across that way fella's.
assuming we would be welcome! Airways NZ.... last one out turn off the lights!!
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Did the conversion training for and work with one of your kiwi mates and I can assure you that you would be made welcome. Anyone who would hold anything against any non Aussie wanting to come here is likely to just be a bit of a prick anyway.
Side note, talking to a Civil Air(aussie ATC 'union') rep, the association has not been consulted at all. People hired would however be covered by the Certified Agreement. In short, this(the CA part, not the consultation) is a good thing for those considering the move.
www.civilair.asn.au has a thread forming on this topic. Inform yourself and ask questions as required.
Side note, talking to a Civil Air(aussie ATC 'union') rep, the association has not been consulted at all. People hired would however be covered by the Certified Agreement. In short, this(the CA part, not the consultation) is a good thing for those considering the move.
www.civilair.asn.au has a thread forming on this topic. Inform yourself and ask questions as required.
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Tobzalp mate,
It's not just Civil Air who didn't know. The missive about new hires completely blind-sided most of the operational management. Canberra cooked up this surprise all on their lonesome.
DNC
It's not just Civil Air who didn't know. The missive about new hires completely blind-sided most of the operational management. Canberra cooked up this surprise all on their lonesome.
DNC