Newcastle-9 [Archive] - Page 10

Rottweiler22

8th Mar 2020, 10:56

So the airport now has two airlines stealing passengers off each other on SOU at the expense of loosing Brussels... great 🙄

I can’t see Eastern coming off better with this one. Not with their reliability issues, and up against Loganair’s much better PR, advertising, booking system, and jets. I think it will be a repeat of the NCL-ABZ again, which didn’t turn out well for Eastern.

SWBKCB

8th Mar 2020, 11:03

I can’t see Eastern coming off better with this one. Not with their reliability issues, and up against Loganair’s much better PR, advertising, booking system, and jets. I think it will be a repeat of the NCL-ABZ again, which didn’t turn out well for Eastern.

Eastern have scheduled ERJ-145's on NCL-SOU

Jamesair

8th Mar 2020, 13:11

I hope they have got the NCL - SOU flight options sorted out on the booking engine....the morning flights were not on offer but both were offered on SOU -NCL

Jamesair

9th Mar 2020, 20:23

LH are reducing frequency on the Munich - Newcastle service from 6 to 5 weekly until 28th March in common with reductions on most routes for this period.

Jamesair

11th Mar 2020, 08:53

According to a Travel Weekly Loganair are introducing a 4 days a week twice daily same plane SOU-NCL -ABZ connection and to replace lost capacity at NCL an additional afternoon NCL -ABZ /ABZ - NCL will commence on W/T/F from 29th April.

SWBKCB

11th Mar 2020, 09:04

According to a Travel Weekly Loganair are introducing a 4 days a week twice daily same plane SOU-NCL-ABZ connection and to replace lost capacity at NCL an additional afternoon NCL-ABZ /ABZ- NCL will commence on W/T/F from 29th April.

Is it twice daily - article only refers to an evening service?

SWBKCB

11th Mar 2020, 09:44

According to a Travel Weekly Loganair are introducing a 4 days a week twice daily same plane SOU-NCL-ABZ connection and to replace lost capacity at NCL an additional afternoon NCL-ABZ /ABZ- NCL will commence on W/T/F from 29th April.

Is it twice daily - article only refers to an evening service?

Jamesair

11th Mar 2020, 10:29

The morning service involves a change of a/c. The new evening flight departs SOU at 1625 arr ABZ 1905 same a/c via NCL. return is ABZ1635..NCL arr. SOU 1915.
The additional NCL - ABZ flights dep.NCL at 1700 and ABZ 1500 Wed/Thurs/FRI

Jamesair

11th Mar 2020, 16:25

Jet2 cancels NCL - Rome flights until 26th April 20

PorkyPig76

13th Mar 2020, 21:31

Wikipedia saying Eurowings to begin Stuttgart- is this the usual Wikipedia nonsense or is there any knowledge behind this?

LBAflyer22

13th Mar 2020, 21:36

Wikipedia saying Eurowings to begin Stuttgart- is this the usual Wikipedia nonsense or is there any knowledge behind this?

More than likely. Especially at this time. I very much doubt we'll see any new route that need a good business travel market to support them.

HH6702

13th Mar 2020, 22:12

Can’t see any new routes starting unless it’s a winter 2020 start or early 2021

fl dutchman

13th Mar 2020, 23:40

Big reductions coming soon on the NCL-LHR.
Down to 2 Daily !!

ash666

14th Mar 2020, 05:42

Big reductions coming soon on the NCL-LHR.
Down to 2 Daily !!

Really? I wouldn't have seen that coming.

Jamesair

14th Mar 2020, 09:04

The Wikipedia Eurowings Stuttgart says start 1st Dec. 2020

Jamesair

17th Mar 2020, 09:32

The February stats are now available on the airport website. 276,812 pax (284,349)

Douglas Bahada

17th Mar 2020, 15:44

April's figures will be dire.

HH6702

17th Mar 2020, 17:10

April's figures will be dire.

if the airport stays open talk that it might close completely this weekend

highwideandugly

17th Mar 2020, 18:53

Only airport booming with flights is Teesside.thanks to mayors money! I’m sure the people of Teesside would rather it be spent on more Deserving causes?

its a right mess..survival of the fittest unless the government steps in?

maybe a complete realignment of the UK airport structure?

of the top of my head...approx less than 20 airports to serve the UK after this horrific episode?

SWBKCB

17th Mar 2020, 19:10

Airports official statement on COVID-19

https://www.newcastleairport.com/news-and-reporting/latest-news/statement-on-covid-19/

An increasing number of airlines are now withdrawing flights and curtailing their flying schedules as numerous countries move into lockdown. Newcastle is a strong regional airport, but in order to navigate the significant reduction in passengers as a result of the COVID-19 situation, we must take urgent steps to protect the long term interests of the business and the North East region.

Last week we stopped all seasonal recruitment with immediate effect, stopped other non-essential expenditure and paused capital development projects. We have also written to all staff asking them for their help, and will consult with all permanent staff and the Unite Trade Union regarding the implementation of a range of further measures. We have to take these steps to safeguard the long term stability of the business and we will endeavour to protect employment and in particular avoid compulsory redundancies in so far as is possible; albeit this can’t be guaranteed.

The long term outlook for the business as a key asset for the region and stable employer remains positive, nevertheless such is the gravity of this unprecedented situation that we must now act decisively.

Travel Agent

20th Mar 2020, 12:44

One of our tour operator suppliers have just advised the following: Emirates have suspended the NCL, EDI & STN services until 1st July

GAXLN

20th Mar 2020, 13:37

Bavaria going into lockdown from tonight. Sadly, looks like no MUC flights for at least the next two weeks. Jet2 shutting up shop until at least May. TUI possibly suspending ops until at least July. With the Emirates news above there will be little left at this rate, especially once repatriation from around the world ceases which may be keeping certain hub flights going.

sinbad73

20th Mar 2020, 15:23

One of our tour operator suppliers have just advised the following: Emirates have suspended the NCL, EDI & STN services until 1st July

From Emirates:

Emirates’ flights to London Heathrow will be reduced to two flights a day, while Glasgow, Manchester and Birmingham will be served with one flight a day from 25 March to 30 June, 2020 (https://e.emiratesagents.com/2OIE-10QHU-32UM8C-MT2R0-1/c.aspx).

These destinations will all be served by Boeing 777s. The airline will also temporarily suspend its fights to Newcastle, London Stansted, London Gatwick and Edinburgh over the same period.

We apologise for any inconvenience caused. We continue to monitor the situation closely, and look forward to resuming normal operations when feasible.

P330

20th Mar 2020, 15:33

And the reality is, even if restrictions ease a little, international travel won’t just be allowed to come back as countries will be at different stages with the virus infections and those in a better position won’t want it coming back.

Just read the SAGE reports from today. How could international flying co-exist with this reality.

Whilst we may get restrictions lifted enough to head to our caravans in the UK, I think it could be 18 months before international flying resumes to anything like normal.

highwideandugly

20th Mar 2020, 18:02

Airport closing overnight almost immediately and all staff taking a 20% pay cut!

strange times indeed!

10 DME ARC

20th Mar 2020, 20:26

Very Strange times indeed HW and U........!! :\ Stay safe everyone

LiamNCL

23rd Mar 2020, 14:00

4x TUI 738s heading to NCL for storage from Canada.

VentureGo

23rd Mar 2020, 16:24

4x TUI 738s heading to NCL for storage from Canada.

All expected to arrive at NCL between 7.50 and 10pm this evening.from Ottawa and Montreal
Flight nos. SWG/WG 9084/9080/9082/9086.
Reg: G-TAWN/G-TAWW/G-TAWO/G-FDZY respectively. Hybrid Sunwing TUI livery except G-TAWW which is full TUI livery.

Also C-GNVR (OK-TVR SmartWings) returning as SWG9306 to Prague (expected circa. 8.45pm this evening)

BAladdy

25th Mar 2020, 10:25

Big reductions coming soon on the NCL-LHR.
Down to 2 Daily !!BA are currently updating there shorthaul schedule on a week by week basis. The latest update is for flights between Sunday 29th March and Saturday 4th April. Further changes are possible over the coming days. Flights to LHR are currently showing as continuing to operate into next week. Schedule below:

BA1321 NCL 06:05 LHR 07:25 x45
BA1327 NCL 10:30 LHR 11:50 6
BA1335 NCL 16:30 LHR 17:45 x16
BA1335 NCL 16:45 LHR 18:00 1

BA1326 LHR 08:25 NCL 09:40 6
BA1334 LHR 14:25 NCL 15:40 x67
BA1334 LHR 14:30 NCL 15:45 7
BA1360 LHR 16:30 NCL 17:50 12
BA1360 LHR 16:35 NCL 17:55 7
BA1338 LHR 21:05 NCL 22:15 5

fl dutchman

25th Mar 2020, 13:13

Generally works out as about 2 per day.

Jamesair

26th Mar 2020, 10:31

I notice that Norwich appears in the route map for Loganair as a route out of NCL (and actually appears on the airport flight board today)......something for the future ....maybe

nclops

26th Mar 2020, 11:10

I notice that Norwich appears in the route map for Loganair as a route out of NCL (and actually appears on the airport flight board today)......something for the future ....maybe
I wouldn’t get too excited. It’s probably just due to the fact they are consolidating the ABZ flights and operating as NWI-NCL-ABZ-NCL-NWI from today.

SWBKCB

27th Mar 2020, 15:53

Feb CAA stats out.

3,177 on the Munich, BFS down 8%, DXB up 4%, SOU down 22%, ABZ up 400% (!), Cardiff down 339 pax.

Jamesair

27th Mar 2020, 17:00

As of now, Emirates plans to re-start daily 777-300 to Dubai on the 1st July 2020.

GrahamK

27th Mar 2020, 18:54

NCL-TRC

27th Mar 2020, 22:43

Average of 76 pax per flight on the Munich before the madness kicked off. Certainly something to work with once everything settles down hopefully. Maybe the CR9/E190 is a better fit to begin with?

But, there's more things to worry about in the mean time. Stay safe everyone!

The thing with MUC was that the loads around the weekend were strong, it’s the mid week flights that will have dragged the figures down. Seems like it’s attracting a decent mix of transit passengers and Geordies going for a weekend in Munich thought.

chris1001

27th Mar 2020, 23:51

Remember the Munich flights were cancelled for two days due to storm Ciara.

SWBKCB

28th Mar 2020, 07:35

Seems like it’s attracting a decent mix of transit passengers and Geordies going for a weekend in Munich thought.

Based on Berlin, Madrid, etc Geordies going away for the weekend is not a long-term basis for a route.

I think most people were surprised when it was launched on the 319, but what do we know!!

Jamesair

28th Mar 2020, 16:51

Another potential light at the end of the tunnel is the latest Government initiative. All employees unable to use up this years holiday entitlement (average 28 days, including Bank Holidays) will have it deferred to be used during the following two years. This could potentially become a boom time for the travel industry.

It has also been reported that BA is suspending NCL - LHR until May.

HH6702

29th Mar 2020, 14:47

have heard that the airport will close on Monday evening and not reopen until May 1st

our 3 Easyjet aircraft to leave tomorrow to be stored down at Southend

SWBKCB

29th Mar 2020, 15:03

have heard that the airport will close on Monday evening and not reopen until May 1st

There's been a number of weekend and overnight closures notamed, or do you mean something else?

mmeman

29th Mar 2020, 18:44

If I am reading the notams correctly, the airport including ATC is closed everyday from 12 midday (GMT) to 8am (GMT) (1pm to 9am Local)

ericlday

29th Mar 2020, 19:36

B) from: 20/03/29 21:30c) to: 20/03/30 05:00e) covid-19 information:
Newcastle aerodrome closed and atc not available.

B) from: 20/03/30 05:00c) to: 20/04/01 17:00
e) covid-19: Information
newcastle aerodrome closed and atc not available.

jon01

30th Mar 2020, 07:14

The airport is not shutting down

New operational hours are 08:00 - 12:00

Looks like only KLM morning flights are operating

Mooncrest

30th Mar 2020, 07:24

It's a similar picture at Leeds Bradford. Only scheduled flight is one KLM rotation in the morning. The airport is open from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. local time.

BAladdy

30th Mar 2020, 08:16

The airport is not shutting down

New operational hours are 08:00 - 12:00

Looks like only KLM morning flights are operating
Does anyone know if the new hours of operation in place for a fixed amount of time or are they until further notice?

SWBKCB

30th Mar 2020, 08:19

Current NOTAM

Q) EGPX/QSPLC/IV/BO/AE/000/105/5502N00141W025
B) FROM: 20/03/30 05:00C) TO: 20/04/01 17:00E) COVID-19: INFORMATION
NEWCASTLE AERODROME CLOSED AND ATC NOT AVAILABLE. URGENT
ENQUIRIES TO DUTY MANAGER ON 07764335104. PILOTS ARE RECOMMENDED TO
USE NEWCASTLE LISTENING SQUAWK 3737 AND MAKE BLIND TRANSMISSIONS
WHEN ENTERING AND LEAVING THE LATERAL CONFINES OF NEWCASTLE CTR/CTA.SCHEDULE: 0500-0800 1200-1700

Severn

30th Mar 2020, 08:43

Easyjet
All 3x NCL based easyJet aircraft are planned to position to SEN today for storage (2x A319/1x A320).

HH6702

30th Mar 2020, 09:45

Anybody know what time these are due to leave

Ph1l1pncl

31st Mar 2020, 00:35

It’s a shame that Easyjet are moving their aircraft from Newcastle down to Southend - in times like these any revenue available should be utilised. Unfortunately I fear that the charges Newcastle want are too much for Easyjet and they got a much better deal at Southend. If the airport could be filled with parked aircraft then it will at least keep getting some revenue.

Even the severe closure timings for the airfield, it’s shorter than many other airports. That’s probably one of the reasons why BA pulled flights to Newcastle while keeping at least one a day to MAN, GLA, EDI, ABZ, BHD. I’m surprised the airport can close like that, I thought as co-opted military field it would have to stay open for the military to use if they wanted too.

I certainly fear that many routes may not come back to Newcastle even after this is all over.

SWBKCB

31st Mar 2020, 05:41

Unfortunately I fear that the charges Newcastle want are too much for Easyjet and they got a much better deal at Southend. If the airport could be filled with parked aircraft then it will at least keep getting some revenue.

Given that TUI have moved a/c in, and that EZY's EDI and GLA a/c moved to SEN on the same day, as well as BFS a/c moving to LPL, I expect that this is more to do with concentrating the a/c for engineering purposes than due to storage costs.

That’s probably one of the reasons why BA pulled flights

A bit chicken and egg - which came first? Suspect that it is more likely that the airfield opening times have been fixed around the flights that wanted to operate.

I’m surprised the airport can close like that, I thought as co-opted military field it would have to stay open for the military to use if they wanted too.

Still available PPR, so I'm sure it can be made available when required.

I certainly fear that many routes may not come back to Newcastle even after this is all over.

Well, London sneezes and the North-East catches a cold. NCL is one of the few airports in the UK which aren't yet back to 2007 levels. This will be more about the relative economic performance of the regions, though rather than anything the airport does in this crisis.

nighthawk117

31st Mar 2020, 08:10

That’s probably one of the reasons why BA pulled flights to Newcastle while keeping at least one a day to MAN, GLA, EDI, ABZ, BHD.

BA are suspending all domestic flights from next week, so I wouldn't read too much in to it

Flightrider

31st Mar 2020, 10:32

BA are suspending all domestic flights from next week, so I wouldn't read too much in to it

Where are you picking that up from? Have seen the suspension of Gatwick operations but not that all domestics are stopping?

BAladdy

31st Mar 2020, 13:41

Even the severe closure timings for the airfield, it’s shorter than many other airports. That’s probably one of the reasons why BA pulled flights to Newcastle while keeping at least one a day to MAN, GLA, EDI, ABZ, BHD. I’m surprised the airport can close like that, I thought as co-opted military field it would have to stay open for the military to use if they wanted too.

I certainly fear that many routes may not come back to Newcastle even after this is all over.
BA were only advised on Friday morning by the airports management of the intention to restrict the hours of operation after the weekend.

Of the 25 flights scheduled to operate to LHR over the next 14 days, there were only 3 that would have been able to operate.

With only couple of days before the new restrictions BA decided to cancel its flights as the only way Of making the restriction daily would involve having to make changes to more than one other route. BA have now suspended the route until early May

highwideandugly

31st Mar 2020, 15:29

Think the management would have taken any necessary measures to help the nation ! and also supplement airport income?

At least Teesside still operating almost normally..i.e no schedules but still open?

jensdad

31st Mar 2020, 17:57

BA were only advised on Friday morning by the airports management of the intention to restrict the hours of operation after the weekend.

Of the 25 flights scheduled to operate to LHR over the next 14 days, there were only 3 that would have been able to operate.

With only couple of days before the new restrictions BA decided to cancel its flights as the only way Of making the restriction daily would involve having to make changes to more than one other route. BA have now suspended the route until early May
I'm not remotely party to any info on the relationship between BA and NCL but I've said it here before: Whether it's the airport's advertising that you can fly to destination X for £x via MUC when BA can get you there via LHR for £x-20; or their assertion when EK started that you can 'now' fly one-stop to e.g. Mauritius when BA had been doing it for about 30 years, NCL just don't appear to value BA as much as they should. I could of course be entirely wrong but that's what it looks like from where I'm sitting.

SWBKCB

31st Mar 2020, 18:05

NCL just don't appear to value BA as much as they should.

Or vice versa? How many routes did BA use to have out of NCL? Lets be honest, both companies will be doing what's in their own best interests - no sentiment in it.

Matt4

8th Apr 2020, 16:47

Don't know whether this has been mentioned on here but looking at the Emirates website they are now selling flights for the 01 June so a month earlier

BAladdy

8th Apr 2020, 21:31

LHR suspension extended to 1st June.

fl dutchman

8th Apr 2020, 21:55

BAladdy NCL-LHR. Is that because NCL are not able to handle these flights under the current circumstances. It seems that LHR domestics continue to run from other UK airports?

GrahamK

9th Apr 2020, 07:08

ATNotts

9th Apr 2020, 09:33

Hub routes as it stands

Air France as it stands look to be resuming 5th May, 3 x daily
KLM mostly 4/5 x weekly through April. Nothing in May? Normal 4 x daily service resume 2nd June
Emirates Daily 1st June
Lufthansa 6 x weekly Munich from 4th May
Eurowings 4 x weekly Dusseldorf from 1st May

All pure speculation on the airlines' behalf. You only have to ready what's going on within the Lufthansa group at the moment to realise that some of their routes (including, but by no means exclusively NCL in UK) may never restart. With the current state of covid-19 in France it seems to me very unlikely that AF will restart as early as May either. And of course aside of the situation in other countries with the UK lamentable testing performance to date, and still no reliable antibody test, nor an understanding of how long immunity from reinfection may last the UK may find itself out in the cold long after other countries (Germany for example) has got their outbreak under control.

Jamesair

10th Apr 2020, 16:13

The March 2020 statistics are now on the airport website....does not make for pleasant reading.

Movements.......1335 (2875)
Pax.............133,013 (341,115)

SWBKCB

10th Apr 2020, 16:16

The March 2020 statistics are now on the airport website....does not make for pleasant reading.

Wait till you see April's...

highwideandugly

10th Apr 2020, 17:28

No shi....?

Albert Hall

10th Apr 2020, 20:43

I doubt the NCL figures will be any better or worse than the vast majority of UK airports. The industry is in the midst of something which surpasses the economic (and probably human) effects of 9/11, both Gulf Wars and SARS all rolled into one. If you can’t contend with every airport reporting shocking passenger figures for several months, it’s time to check out of this bulletin board.

LiamNCL

11th Apr 2020, 00:52

Not even worth mentioning as every UK and Worldwide airport is having the same issue.

HH6702

15th Apr 2020, 09:27

Don't know whether this has been mentioned on here but looking at the Emirates website they are now selling flights for the 01 June so a month earlier

been changed back to July 1st this morning

GrahamK

15th Apr 2020, 10:05

been changed back to July 1st this morning
August 1st

highwideandugly

16th Apr 2020, 16:39

Troubling times for all... I see our local airports ,as many others ,are just about in lockdown.According to AIS,Some strange opening hours though?
I wonder if finances could have been made available to extend opening hours to facilitate help for the medical,economic and social needs of the UK . Especially here in the NE with fantastic facilities and medical research?

SWBKCB

16th Apr 2020, 16:57

Airport is available outside of the published hours by prior arrnagement, and has been used so for ambulance flights.

JKKne

26th Apr 2020, 23:11

Looks like BA have cancelled all June flights from NCL. Next bookable date on ba.com is 1st July.

NorthEasterner

28th Apr 2020, 20:24

KLM have suspended the AMS service effective from 1st May. Looks like they will return in June.

Source: KLM website

SWBKCB

29th Apr 2020, 11:35

March CAA stats are out - Brussels and Stavanger were up!! :O

highwideandugly

29th Apr 2020, 14:39

Airport Closed for just about all of May apparently, other than a few hours in the morning?

Recorded record ,I know, but I bet most ,if not all airports wish they had diversified to spread the risks!
This could and probably will be in the future master plans? No longer relying on bucket and spade hols!

JKKne

29th Apr 2020, 15:13

HH6702

29th Apr 2020, 16:40

Not just bucket and spade?

problem is you have to have a market where people want to travel to.
great to have city breaks and we do have a few but they don’t last long a few years at most.

More cargo??
business park being built quicker ??

SWBKCB

1st May 2020, 08:32

KLM have suspended the AMS service effective from 1st May. Looks like they will return in June.

Source: KLM website

KLM Embraer inbound now, so is today the last flight?

GrahamK

1st May 2020, 21:36

As it stands, KLM return in Junewith a 5 x weekly E175/190, thenreturn to 4 x daily from 5th July
AF restart CDG from 1st June, 3 x daily A318/E190
LH restart Munich 6 x weekly from 1st June
Eurowings return 1st June with a 4 x weekly DUS on the A319
Emirates 1st August 77W
BA 1st July? 4/5 x daily

All subject to change of course

Jamesair

11th May 2020, 15:54

Latest from KLM is a re-start of services on the 1st June with 5 x weekly service operated by E175 a/c.

highwideandugly

11th May 2020, 16:37

And 14 days quarantine? I think not!

Jamesair

16th May 2020, 16:41

Latest from RYANAIR on flight restarts is:-
ALICANTE.....24/6...2 wkly. 1/7...3 wkly
DUBLIN.......... 1/7...4 wkly 1/8...6 wkly
FARO.............3/7....2 wkly
GDANSK........3/8....2 wkly
MALAGA........4/7....2 wkly. 6/8....3 wkly
PALMA..........2/7....3 wkly. 1/8....5 wkly
WROCKLAW..5/7....1 wkly

Flying Hi

16th May 2020, 16:57

chaps1954

16th May 2020, 17:03

LH don`t restart in June to NCL and I don`t think AF do either certainly not 3 daily

highwideandugly

16th May 2020, 17:18

Airport not open anyway..so that doesn’t help!

HH6702

16th May 2020, 17:32

LH don`t restart in June to NCL and I don`t think AF do either certainly not 3 daily

just had email they have cancelled my AF flight into ncl on 29th June it would have night stopped

SWBKCB

16th May 2020, 17:50

Airport not open anyway..so that doesn’t help!

Oh dear, your bias is showing again. Airport is NOTAM'd as being open from 08.00-12.00 Mon-Fri until the end of May. Hours expected to be extended there after.

GrahamK

16th May 2020, 17:50

5 x weekly KLM in June is all the airport terminal seems to be opening for now, subject to change,

jensdad

16th May 2020, 17:52

highwideandugly

16th May 2020, 19:32

SWBKCB..not sure what you are getting at with bias?

The airport is open 0900-1300LT. Not sure what good that is actually offering the NE economy,and dare I say it ,the UK efforts to get back to normal.
The airport over the the last few(many years) has been the major player in the region. I would suggest dividends have been greatly received by the local authorities,who yes...have contributed over the years?
An earlier post suggested that BA wanted to continue limited ops. but we’re refused? Any others?

Can’t believe the airport can’t offer longer and more effective opening hours.
There is a lot of activity out there still...and the NE ,as usual is at the rear end of the UK response?

Build it..and they will come.

Never mind..TIA. Maybe fortuitously ..continues to provide a decent available aviation service?

SWBKCB

16th May 2020, 19:57

Can’t believe the airport can’t offer longer and more effective opening hours.

My understanding is that the proposed BA schedule was "somewhat random and flexible".

Also, apart from the regular published hours, the airport is available when requested. Teesside is open as requested by its major resident operator. Your point is?

highwideandugly

17th May 2020, 13:45

Point is....If airports are closed..it becomes a little difficult to provide a service.

If an airport is open..it becomes slightly easier?

Yes ,I accept at the present time it boils down mainly to the economics. Would have thought the most successful airport in the NE would be able to stretch....a little in availability.

ATNotts

17th May 2020, 13:55

The latest plan is that the 14-day quarantine will be over by the end of June so if (I know...) that's the case, it shouldn't affect this. All is subject to the vagaries of a natural disaster though, so all is speculation.

Just out of interest, are you referring to the Spanish and Portuguese quarantines, or to the UK one that hasn't actually started yet, and apart from BoJo doing a full 180 on whether France was or wasn't included, appears to have gone rather quiet since it was announced a week ago.

jensdad

17th May 2020, 22:48

Just out of interest, are you referring to the Spanish and Portuguese quarantines, or to the UK one that hasn't actually started yet, and apart from BoJo doing a full 180 on whether France was or wasn't included, appears to have gone rather quiet since it was announced a week ago.
It's the UK one I was referring to, but like I say it's all up in the air (or not, as the case may be :) ).

VentureGo

20th May 2020, 11:06

Sun-Air (OY-JJB) EZ 712 Returned immediately after take off from NCL to Billund (FR24) Departed at 11.50am this morning and as of 12.02 is returning over Newcastle.

Edit: Departed again at 13.16 (BST) landing in Billund 15.21 (CEST) - Flight Time 1:10

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oy-jjb#24885472

GrahamK

21st May 2020, 18:43

easyJet restarting 4 x weekly Belfast from 15th June

ash666

21st May 2020, 18:50

Will Belfast hotels etc be open by then?

Flying Hi

21st May 2020, 18:52

Will Belfast hotels etc be open by then?
OK, I'll ask the obvious question - why does it matter?

ash666

21st May 2020, 18:55

OK, I'll answer the obvious.
Who are the flights intended for?
Purely day return businessmen? Will the timings work for that?

highwideandugly

21st May 2020, 19:38

I’ve just asked a similar question on the Prestwick thread!

ash666

21st May 2020, 19:49

I'm trying to understand why they are going to Barcelona, Tenerife, Malaga, Alicante etc when they are not allowing tourists to enter the country.

HH6702

21st May 2020, 22:01

OK, I'll answer the obvious.
Who are the flights intended for?
Purely day return businessmen? Will the timings work for that?

4x weekly that means no one can do a DAY TRIP

It’s a start

ash666

22nd May 2020, 05:53

Well done, just wondering who would be the first to spot that one....

Chesty Morgan

22nd May 2020, 07:22

Unless it's 4 in a day...

JonnyH

22nd May 2020, 08:02

I'm trying to understand why they are going to Barcelona, Tenerife, Malaga, Alicante etc when they are not allowing tourists to enter the country.

Spain’s areas are in different “phases” at the moment. There’s a decent chance by then they’ll be accepting at least some tourists in some areas. They’re putting preventative measures in places for tourists arriving to try to avoid the 14 day quarantine period.

The likes of the Canaries are reporting no cases daily most of the time so if they can heat scan etc they’re going to be in a strong position over the next 3/4 weeks.

ericlday

22nd May 2020, 08:56

The likes of the Canaries are reporting no cases daily most of the time so if they can heat scan etc they’re going to be in a strong position over the next 3/4 weeks.[/QUOTE]

Correction - Its NIL Deaths since 17th in Tenerife only a few (max 5) new cases daily.

inOban

22nd May 2020, 09:49

I would have thought that in that situation the last thing they would want is lots of people flying in from places with a much higher infection rate.

P330

22nd May 2020, 12:19

‘They’ probably don’t want people coming but ‘they’ also will want their income. People will sit on the extremes of views wanting one or the other whilst moderates may take a pragmatic, risk based approach. Same debate happening in UK resorts; we don’t want visitors but help, our economy is dying. People on the extremes will have to accept if they get their wish they lose the other. Something has to give or we remain locked away for ever...

ash666

22nd May 2020, 12:22

Jamesair

22nd May 2020, 16:59

I notice on the Airport website timetable of operations about to start, Eastern is referred to as Hahn Aircraft Technologies...is this a new name or the Holding company for eastern?

SWBKCB

22nd May 2020, 17:09

they're a service provider

The company’s first product, X1-Air, is intended for airlines that currently have “limited or no indirect distribution connectivity.” It allows participating carriers to sell flights through Amadeus, Sabre and soon Travelport, as well as offers scheduling, fare filing, messaging, inventory management, booking, ticketing and settlement.

https://www.phocuswire.com/hahn-air-distribution-technologies

NorthSouth

23rd May 2020, 07:51

I'm trying to understand why they are going to Barcelona, Tenerife, Malaga, Alicante etc when they are not allowing tourists to enter the country.
Isnt this just airlines collecting desperately needed cash, knowing that if the flights don’t run they’ll only give some of it back and only after many many weeks/months? Simple cash flow exercise

ash666

23rd May 2020, 08:29

Could be but I don't think that will be the case here.

I see Jet2 are starting up again on July 1st, though I've not seen specific airport info yet.

skyman771

23rd May 2020, 08:29

Isnt this just airlines collecting desperately needed cash, knowing that if the flights don’t run they’ll only give some of it back and only after many many weeks/months? Simple cash flow exercise
It's the same across the whole travel / accommodation industry, selling seats, beds, cabins over the coming months, that they have no way of guaranteeing delivery.
Commercially it makes sense, given that the principal reason you are unable to deliver are the actions of a third party.

Ph1l1pncl

28th May 2020, 01:58

It would appear that Loganair have pulled Bergen, Guernsey and Newquay from the Newcastle schedule these routes were all supposed to start this year.

HH6702

28th May 2020, 08:41

It would appear that Loganair have pulled Bergen, Guernsey and Newquay from the Newcastle schedule these routes were all supposed to start this year.

yes believe they will try again for summer 2021

SWBKCB

28th May 2020, 09:05

Newcastle International Airport is pleased to announce that scheduled flights will resume operating from the Airport on the 1st June 2020. From Monday, Loganair will commence six flights per week to Aberdeen and KLM five flights per week to Amsterdam.

To support the return of flights, a number of measures are being introduced that will help provide a safe environment for passengers and staff.

This is the Airport’s Ten Point Plan:

Anyone displaying COVID-19 symptoms or who has a member of their household self-isolating should not come to the Airport.
Only car parks without human touch points will be in operation.
A trial of temperature testing technology will be undertaken.
Face masks must be worn within the terminal building.
Only passengers and staff to enter the terminal.
Intensive cleaning and hygiene regime throughout the building.
Two metre social distancing enforced where possible.
Initially, there will be no shops or restaurants in operation.
COVID-19 prevention training for all customer facing staff.
Specific measures to ensure the safety of all staff.

https://www.newcastleairport.com/news-and-reporting/latest-news/newcastle-airport-announces-return-of-flights-and-health-measures-to-protect-passengers-and-staff/

fl dutchman

28th May 2020, 09:24

BA to resume LHR with one daily flight from 1 July.

ash666

28th May 2020, 10:37

British Airways has axed flights to Leeds Bradford Airport.

The airline said it regularly evaluated its routes "based on where customers tell us they want to travel".

The 10 flights a week connecting Leeds Bradford Airport and London Heathrow will now stop.
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More business for NCL, you would think.

rpmac

28th May 2020, 11:51

No --Manchester.

highwideandugly

28th May 2020, 12:06

If Newcastle ever opens!

GrahamK

28th May 2020, 12:20

highwideandugly, reopening monday it seems! Red Arrow in to celebrate the reopening this morning too

Nissan moving its European HQ to Sunderland, Newcastle United being taken over by the Saudi's, could be a busy time ahead once the pandemic has died down (pardon the choice of words)

SWBKCB

28th May 2020, 12:34

If Newcastle ever opens!

highwideandugly, reopening monday it seems!

The airport has only been closed at weekends, limited hours on weekdays, so open today (and yesterday, and tomorrow...). Jet2 out on a test flight this morning.From Monday, Loganair will commence six flights per week to Aberdeen and KLM five flights per week to Amsterdam.

In the second half of June, easyJet will commence up to four flights a week to Belfast, Eastern Airways up to six flights per week to Aberdeen and double-daily weekday flights to Southampton. Loganair will add an additional six flights per week to Southampton and Air France up to five flights every week to Paris.

Ryanair is also expected to commence two flights per week to Alicante.

Further flights are scheduled to begin operating throughout July and August.

highwideandugly

28th May 2020, 12:51

Yes let’s hope for positive green shoots..we all need the NE economy To bounce back ASAP !

highwideandugly

28th May 2020, 14:11

SWBKCB

28th May 2020, 14:35

Article in Newcastle chronicle tonight..re opening June 1st..new flight..new rules!

I wonder if the airport will consider diversification as the business model now..away from just footfall in duty free?Maybe similar to Teesside,Bournemouth,EMA, et al? Just a thought.

Pays not to have all your eggs in one basket..as has been shown these last few months?

As in my post earlier today...

The issue NCL has is with space/infrastructure for diversification.

JKKne

28th May 2020, 14:57

Article in Newcastle chronicle tonight..re opening June 1st..new flight..new rules!

I wonder if the airport will consider diversification as the business model now..away from just footfall in duty free?Maybe similar to Teesside,Bournemouth,EMA, et al? Just a thought.

Pays not to have all your eggs in one basket..as has been shown these last few months?

I think any permanent divergence from the business plan based on a pandemic (at least in the long term) is ill judged - though short to medium term benefits are probably there.

This new business park and other nearby developments will certainly help.

BAladdy

28th May 2020, 16:15

Loganair resuming SOU from 15th June. Flights will operate on 15th, 17th and 19th and will operate 6 x weekly from 21st June. Flights will be operated by ABZ crew and will operate ABZ-NCL-SOU-NCL-ABZ

jensdad

28th May 2020, 23:07

Loganair resuming SOU from 15th June. Flights will operate on 15th, 17th and 19th and will operate 6 x weekly from 21st June. Flights will be operated by ABZ crew and will operate ABZ-NCL-SOU-NCL-ABZ
From a purely selfish point of view, what is the latest theory on when Exeter will (re)start? Purely selfish as I'm due to visit that neck of the woods in late July. I guess this will be one of the routes that are less of a priority than Southampton or the oil run to Aberdeen. Firm news or rumours welcome :)

Fly757X

29th May 2020, 18:45

From a purely selfish point of view, what is the latest theory on when Exeter will (re)start? Purely selfish as I'm due to visit that neck of the woods in late July. I guess this will be one of the routes that are less of a priority than Southampton or the oil run to Aberdeen. Firm news or rumours welcome :)

Re-starts on the 6th of July.

skyman771

29th May 2020, 19:33

Not been through NCL since early March.
Are there currently many aircraft temporarily stored at NCL ? If so is there any signs of imminent departure ?

jensdad

29th May 2020, 19:50

Re-starts on the 6th of July.
Great news, mate. Thanks for the info :)

GrahamK

29th May 2020, 20:21

Not been through NCL since early March.
Are there currently many aircraft temporarily stored at NCL ? If so is there any signs of imminent departure ?
6 x TUI 738, 7 x LS738 i believe. One Jet2 has benn up in the air yesterday

SWBKCB

30th May 2020, 11:48

Notam'd opening hours (local) for the period 1 - 14 June - Mon- Fri 09-00 to 13-00 and 17-00 to 18-30, Sunday 17-00 to 18-30. Closed all day Saturday

highwideandugly

30th May 2020, 17:52

Oh well,that’s not too complicated

GrahamK

2nd Jun 2020, 07:34

Most easyJet services not re-starting until August now

GrahamK

2nd Jun 2020, 09:12

As an aside to highwideandugly's needs for the airport to diversify, I see they are advertising a drive in cinema at the airport later on in the year. Is that diverse enough? :E

N707ZS

2nd Jun 2020, 09:49

As an aside to highwideandugly's needs for the airport to diversify, I see they are advertising a drive in cinema at the airport later on in the year. Is that diverse enough? :E
Can just imagine the locals parking up on the runway.

L66MBD

2nd Jun 2020, 11:59

Can just imagine the locals parking up on the runway.

Sorry, Locals?

MKY661

2nd Jun 2020, 12:22

Looks like Malaga & Alicante bookable with EasyJet in July. Both 2pw

jensdad

2nd Jun 2020, 14:44

Sorry, Locals?
That reminds me, where have all the hares gone? Used to be loads of em when I was a plane-spotting nipper.

ash666

2nd Jun 2020, 14:51

That reminds me, where have all the hares gone? Used to be loads of em when I was a plane-spotting nipper.

Shall I be the first...

Hare today, gone tomorrow

highwideandugly

2nd Jun 2020, 15:14

On the runway? Boy that’s going to have to be one long screen!

jensdad

2nd Jun 2020, 15:43

Shall I be the first...

Hare today, gone tomorrow
We've got to amuse ourselves with something these days, ash :)

ash666

2nd Jun 2020, 15:57

We've got to amuse ourselves with something these days, ash :)

We will run out of jokes by the time other countries let us fly in without quarantine, if at all.

Jamesair1

2nd Jun 2020, 16:44

I hear that Italy will be open to Brits... without a quarantine requirement.... from 3rd June

ROC10

2nd Jun 2020, 22:08

I hear that Italy will be open to Brits... without a quarantine requirement.... from 3rd June

Any source? Statements such as that can’t really be deemed credible, particularly when you’ve only posted once.

SCFC1EP

2nd Jun 2020, 22:19

Reported by BC 16/05/20

Italy is taking a "calculated risk" as it moves to further ease its coronavirus lockdown measures, PM Giuseppe Conte has admitted.

He said "the contagion curve" could rise again, but the country could not afford to wait for a vaccine.

Mr Conte announced that travel to and from Italy, and between the country's regions would be allowed from 3 June.

Gyms, swimming pools and sports centres will reopen on 25 May, and cinemas and theatres on 15 June.

Travellers from EU countries will be able to enter Italy without going into a two-week quarantine.

ash666

3rd Jun 2020, 06:30

But will we have to go into quarantine when we return?

oldart

3rd Jun 2020, 07:31

But will we have to go into quarantine when we return?
From next Monday I believe, the answer is 'Yes'. Also if you require insurance I don't think you would get cover for the Corona Virus.

ash666

3rd Jun 2020, 07:40

From next Monday I believe, the answer is 'Yes'. Also if you require insurance I don't think you would get cover for the Corona Virus.

Is the official Foreign Office line to only travel abroad for essential reasons?
That would probably negate all insurance for a tourist trip?

Asturias56

3rd Jun 2020, 08:20

You're not going ot get any insurance taht wil cover CV-19 in any shape fashion or form and they'll probably try and weasel out of even covering a broken leg .

as for "Quarantine" just claim you'r Dominic Cummings, a F1 racing driver, a Romanian fruit picker or a German lorry driver

It's another of Priti's bright ideas - never went through SAGE she just had to have something to say the second time they let her out

Jamesair1

3rd Jun 2020, 08:25

ROC....new PC..old e-mail address.....I am the original JAMESAIR with 2361 posts...now known as Jamesair1

JKKne

3rd Jun 2020, 09:08

Matt4

3rd Jun 2020, 16:44

According to the Emirates website it looks like they aren't returning until September now. Also looking at the Loganair website the Bergen and Newquay have now disappeared and not bookable don't know if its been mentioned in the past

Jamesair1

3rd Jun 2020, 17:00

With Loganair we have also lost Bergen till next year and Brussels

HH6702

3rd Jun 2020, 19:36

Yes Bergen and Newquay cancelled for the summer

it wouldn’t surprise me if EK goes further back again

N707ZS

4th Jun 2020, 06:34

But will we have to go into quarantine when we return?
As long as you stay in County Durham for 14 days you should be ok, under Cunningham rules.

Flying Hi

4th Jun 2020, 07:29

As long as you stay in County Durham for 14 days you should be ok, under Cunningham rules.
aka Cummins.
Maybe BoJo should enshrine the Cummins Corridor in Law so we can ALL move freely between the beautiful County Durham and London.

ash666

4th Jun 2020, 07:38

According to the Emirates website it looks like they aren't returning until September now.

That could be a good thing.
My only remaining family is my brother and his family living in Thailand.
They have a similar size population to the UK.
UK, 39,000 deaths, Thailand 58 deaths....
Thailand has been getting new covid +ve cases at the rate of 1 every 1 or 2 days but now the lockdown rules are easing and people are getting back in from abroad the number of new cases is rising. Only slowly so far but yesterday there was a big jump to 17 new cases.
Almost all the new cases are from people coming back in from the Middle East.
It would be politically impossible to open our skies and airports for travel but block SA and the rest of the Middle East, they give our economy too much money, so the best possible thing is if the airlines see routes as uneconomic and don't fly in at all.

Flying Hi

4th Jun 2020, 08:28

That could be a good thing.
My only remaining family is my brother and his family living in Thailand.
They have a similar size population to the UK.
UK, 39,000 deaths, Thailand 58 deaths....
Thailand has been getting new covid +ve cases at the rate of 1 every 1 or 2 days but now the lockdown rules are easing and people are getting back in from abroad the number of new cases is rising. Only slowly so far but yesterday there was a big jump to 17 new cases.
Almost all the new cases are from people coming back in from the Middle East.
It would be politically impossible to open our skies and airports for travel but block SA and the rest of the Middle East, they give our economy too much money, so the best possible thing is if the airlines see routes as uneconomic and don't fly in at all.
Thats passing the Buck. Political cowardice.. Money before lives. Again.

ash666

4th Jun 2020, 08:33

Sadly, it's the way the world works.
Time and time again we see the rich nations which we have huge trade deals with get away with murder and, for the airport (s) EK is massive so no chance of a ban either nationally or locally.

Flying Hi

4th Jun 2020, 08:47

Sadly, after all the deaths and palaver the (in)human race has learned nothing but 'show me the money'
Maybe the population of NCL should be grateful to EK for nit bringing flights of Covid in until September.

TheLambtonWorm

6th Jun 2020, 13:36

Looks like Lufthansa have cancelled all flights until October. My flights in July have been cancelled and if you try to book other dates the results are all via DUS.

Asturias56

6th Jun 2020, 17:35

Flying Hi

6th Jun 2020, 17:40

More likely they're worried about importing Covid cases from the hot-spot of Europe.
Rather than the hot spot of the Middle East?

HH6702

6th Jun 2020, 17:42

It will be interesting what routes actually do happen this summer from the likes of TUI and Jet2

will we see just a small selection of routes on offer.

cant see them doing all the Greek routes

Flying Hi

6th Jun 2020, 17:46

It will be interesting what routes actually do happen this summer from the likes of TUI and Jet2

will we see just a small selection of routes on offer.

cant see them doing all the Greek routes
That would be odd seeing as Greece is one of the 'safer' destinations.
Maybe it'll be Greece who wont let US in - and who can blame them.

ash666

6th Jun 2020, 17:48

I might have missed something but who has been coming in on the KLM flights?

Flying Hi

6th Jun 2020, 18:16

I might have missed something but who has been coming in on the KLM flights?
Erm - non Covid checked Pax?
Same as every operational airport in the UK?

ash666

6th Jun 2020, 18:20

So no quarantine before now?

I can't see it worth the airlines trouble to operate flights now with the 1 or 2 pax who are prepared to put up with the quarantine on return.

HH6702

9th Jun 2020, 08:52

Loganair to start Exeter route next month

mmeteesside

9th Jun 2020, 10:51

Loganair to start Exeter route next month
Once weekdaily from 20th July apparently

Asturias56

9th Jun 2020, 17:36

"I can't see it worth the airlines trouble to operate flights now with the 1 or 2 pax who are prepared to put up with the quarantine on return."

you assume anyone will take it seriously

ash666

9th Jun 2020, 18:14

I'll settle for Exeter until we find out.

N707ZS

12th Jun 2020, 07:08

Is the Fed ex flight still operating at Newcastle, and what is happening to the cargo that used to go in daily flights holds.

SWBKCB

12th Jun 2020, 07:15

Is the Fed ex flight still operating at Newcastle, and what is happening to the cargo that used to go in daily flights holds.

It's not operating - no idea what is happening with the cargo, presumably being roaded elsewhere.

MATELO

15th Jun 2020, 06:20

Busy Day. New destination added!
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x971/a139a2e2_2cbf_456e_8765_1affd3574fcc_88a92a0c3865da15e5e1bcb 8166809fff0d117b4.jpeg

Jamesair1

15th Jun 2020, 09:16

Belfast seems to have disappeared from the board.

jensdad

15th Jun 2020, 22:08

Belfast seems to have disappeared from the board.
Saw an Easy going out about 7.15 or so , so I think it operated.

SWBKCB

15th Jun 2020, 22:28

Spot on - dept at 19.14

Jamesair1

16th Jun 2020, 08:28

AIR FRANCE...on the board today but SOU cancelled

ash666

16th Jun 2020, 11:50

AIR FRANCE...on the board today but SOU cancelled

It will be interesting to see the loads given the punitive quarantine rules.

BAladdy

16th Jun 2020, 16:26

BA to resume LHR with one daily flight from 1 July.
Flights will now not resume until 16th July

Asturias56

16th Jun 2020, 16:33

It will be interesting to see the loads given the punitive quarantine rules.

just tick the box saying you're from the German Democratic Republic..................

GrahamK

16th Jun 2020, 17:08

What's the chances of BA not resuming NCL at all?

HH6702

16th Jun 2020, 17:50

What's the chances of BA not resuming NCL at all?

they will resume flights but days of 7/8 flights per day may not happen.
can see it being cut to maybe 3

VentureGo

16th Jun 2020, 18:09

British Airways booking tool shows up to 5 flights daily to Heathrow most days.
https://www.britishairways.com/travel/home/public/en_gb/

With the dates mid August entered:
https://www.britishairways.com/travel/booking/public/en_gb/#/flightList?origin=NCL&destination=LHR&outboundDate=2020-08-20&inboundDate=2020-08-23&adultCount=1&youngAdultCount=0&childCount=0&infantCount=0&cabin=M&ticketFlexibility=LOWEST&journeyType=RTFLT

Also: although it's a bit of a drift from the thread, DFDS service from Newcastle to Amsterdam re-commences from July, so maybe relax of travel regulations may be coming sooner than expected (Do FCO advise travel companies in advance in order for them to prepare schedules) Sail out / Fly back! : https://www.dfds.com/en-gb/passenger-ferries/booking/cabin-fares

Jamesair1

19th Jun 2020, 16:34

EASTERN to ABZ has disappeared from the front page "routes starting" section on the Airport website and is not now bookable on the Eastern website. Looks like the route has been cancelled.

YoungJerry

19th Jun 2020, 18:24

Eurowings and Lufhansa have postponed their relaunch dates, which were originally for 1 July. They've switched my July bookings to Manchester.

jensdad

19th Jun 2020, 22:53

Eurowings and Lufhansa have postponed their relaunch dates, which were originally for 1 July. They've switched my July bookings to Manchester.
Yes, I just tried some dummy bookings and Lufty aren't going direct to Munich until Sunday 25th October. Before then it's sending me through Duesseldorf , but only after Sunday 2nd August.

Matt4

20th Jun 2020, 10:39

Looks like the LM EXT has been pushed back again until 10th Aug

Matt4

21st Jun 2020, 16:17

Looks like KLM are upgrading their aircraft on Tuesday and Wednesday from an Embraer to a 737-700 then back down to an Embraer on Thursday

GBYAJ

23rd Jun 2020, 08:10

ROC10

23rd Jun 2020, 10:47

The airport’s social media appears to be saying that loads of jet 2 and TUI routes start 11 July. But as far as I know jet 2 haven’t announced anything and TUI is very limited from 3 airports??? Even if NCL is one of the extra TUI bases at the end of the month the programme will not like being made out on Facebook.

TUI’s website has gone down now but from what I saw briefly earlier, GLA and BRS are the two further bases returning (on a limited basis) from the end of July.

GBYAJ

23rd Jun 2020, 11:05

TUI’s website has gone down now but from what I saw briefly earlier, GLA and BRS are the two further bases returning (on a limited basis) from the end of July.

from the TUI thread, NCL could have been a possibility. Scottish school holidays are nearly over (but will Jimmy Cranky let them travel anyway) and in the old days NCl used to attract lots of Scottish travellers when there were limited IT flights from EDI. So NcL would have bridged the gap in the north of the country.

wonder if TUI passengers will travel on jet2 from
NCl to start with?? Or the airport’s information well off the mark?

LiamNCL

23rd Jun 2020, 12:23

TUI website up looks like NCL returns first week of August.

ROC10

23rd Jun 2020, 16:03

from the TUI thread, NCL could have been a possibility. Scottish school holidays are nearly over (but will Jimmy Cranky let them travel anyway) and in the old days NCl used to attract lots of Scottish travellers when there were limited IT flights from EDI. So NcL would have bridged the gap in the north of the country.

wonder if TUI passengers will travel on jet2 from
NCl to start with?? Or the airport’s information well off the mark?

When TUI resume their flights from the 11th July there will still be 4-5 weeks left of the Scottish school holidays so I wouldn't say they'd be "nearly over". Seems odd therefore that they don't start from GLA until end of July (and limited) but clearly LGW/MAN/BHX are the priority. GLA is arguably a better option than NCL since pax from NCL are closer to MAN than those from GLA, EDI and certainly ABZ. Both GLA and MAN are pretty similar in travelling time from NCL.

LiamNCL

23rd Jun 2020, 16:24

When TUI resume their flights from the 11th July there will still be 4-5 weeks left of the Scottish school holidays so I wouldn't say they'd be "nearly over". Seems odd therefore that they don't start from GLA until end of July (and limited) but clearly LGW/MAN/BHX are the priority. GLA is arguably a better option than NCL since pax from NCL are closer to MAN than those from GLA, EDI and certainly ABZ. Both GLA and MAN are pretty similar in travelling time from NCL.

GLA only resuming a week or 10 days before NCL anyway so not much difference.

SWBKCB

24th Jun 2020, 08:39

Cracking timing. Going down a storm on FB...As we embark on the long road to recovery, the task of restoring our route network and returning the business to profitability is likely to be challenging. We expect the costs of operating the Airport to exceed income for a period of time. We understand the importance of global connectivity to the region, therefore these price increases need to be introduced so that we can continue to make investments in the Airport, attract high quality airlines and provide the level of customer service our passengers expect.

The new rate remains competitive with other regional airports around the UK, including Manchester, Edinburgh and Leeds-Bradford.
Newcastle Airport revises car parking tariffs (https://www.newcastleairport.com/news-and-reporting/latest-news/newcastle-airport-revises-car-parking-tariffs/)

GrahamK

24th Jun 2020, 09:13

Cracking timing. Going down a storm on FB...
Newcastle Airport revises car parking tariffs (https://www.newcastleairport.com/news-and-reporting/latest-news/newcastle-airport-revises-car-parking-tariffs/)

Still 15 mins free in the short stay car park which is the same difference as the car park, so not sure why so many people are whinging. Still better value than a lot of other regional airports including Manchester and Edinburgh too

SWBKCB

24th Jun 2020, 09:16

Still 15 mins free in the short stay car park which is the same difference as the car park, so not sure why so many people are whinging. Still better value than a lot of other regional airports including Manchester and Edinburgh too

Newcastle £3 for 10 minutes. Airport website quoting Manchester £3 for 5 minutes, Edinburgh £3 for 5 minutes and Leeds-Bradford £3 for 10 minutes.

almost professional

24th Jun 2020, 20:25

If you want your local airport to survive, then I suggest paying the fee for drop off or extra car parking is the least of it. With Airlines suffering too revenue streams that generate any income become very important, car parking tends to be at the top of the list. I was lucky enough to be able to use staff parking till retirement (Not EGNT !) but It will not worry me paying the fee when I use Newcastle as I want the Airport to succeed. I do not understand those who complain but do not quibble at spending money on other things.

SWBKCB

24th Jun 2020, 21:03

For some reason "drop off" charges touch a nerve and generate these negative reactions - rightly or wrongly they are seen as a rip-off, and nobody likes being ripped off, especially in these "difficult times".

It gets the same reaction everywhere and everytime, so it must be worth it or you'd have thought that they'd have been better off raising the money on general car park charges

almost professional

24th Jun 2020, 21:34

They do, I remember EMA getting a torrid time in the press when they introduced it, but if you want to use the facilities....
I didn't have a lot of time for our management, but you could see the issues when Ryanair etc refused to pay a going rate to use the airport and the facilities needed to be kept going.

tigertanaka

25th Jun 2020, 08:00

I guess this is just a reflection of the airline/airport business today. Airlines don't want to pay to use the airport, passengers don't like getting ripped off for getting dropped off/parking/food & drinks but in the middle there is an airport that needs income to be able to bring both groups together. Neither is good but if Newcastle were to bump up their landing fees, the risk is that Ryanair or Easyjet just moves to Teesside.

VentureGo

27th Jun 2020, 09:16

CAA figures for May show total passengers as "67" and total flights as "2" - Surely this is incorrect! - or I'm reading the stats incorrectly
https://www.caa.co.uk/uploadedFiles/CAA/Content/Standard_Content/Data_and_analysis/Datasets/Airport_stats/Airport_data_2020_05/Airport_Statistics_Summary.pdf

Figures for April were showing as "916" total passengers and a total number of flights as "34"
https://www.caa.co.uk/uploadedFiles/CAA/Content/Standard_Content/Data_and_analysis/Datasets/Airport_stats/Airport_data_2020_04/Airport_Statistics_Summary.pdf

Newcastle Airport Passenger statistics have not been updated since March.
https://www.newcastleairport.com/about-your-airport/airport-facts/passenger-statistics/

GBYAJ

27th Jun 2020, 09:29

Is the surprise that the figures are so high???

I’d have expected nil for both given lock down started at the end of March.

GrahamK

27th Jun 2020, 09:34

Sounds about right, KLM operated in April, but did not operate in May.

ash666

27th Jun 2020, 19:30

tigertanaka

29th Jun 2020, 11:27

On my last 2 trips I've paid a fair bit more than a taxi to park at the airport but any increase would put paid to that.

I've just tried a dummy 3 week booking and the only options being offered are short stay 1 and 2 and premium fast track.

I know you do get different options depending on whether you have used a promotional code - I can see prices for all 4 options without one.

I believe they may have played around with the pricing mechanic. For a 3 day trip, short stay 2 is now more cheaper than long stay (used to be more expensive). However, the new structure does not yet appear to be reflected in other resellers pricing, for example APH is now cheaper then booking direct for long stay parking but more expensive for using short stay 1.

ash666

29th Jun 2020, 11:41

I wasn't using a promo code, just trying to get a price for 3 weeks parking.
Still no idea why it asks for a time when it makes no difference.

SWBKCB

29th Jun 2020, 11:59

Didn't think long stay was open - no shuttle buses operating?

YoungJerry

30th Jun 2020, 11:10

Eurowings restart to Düsseldorf postponed again; now scheduled for 2 September.

NCL-TRC

30th Jun 2020, 12:37

According to the below tweet EasyJet is planning to close the base at NCL along with STN and SEN

https://twitter.com/airlinegeeks/status/1277941554938814464?s=21

GrahamK

30th Jun 2020, 12:49

Huge blow to the airport that, if it comes to pass :(

MARKEYD

30th Jun 2020, 13:21

Just seen the internal company e mail to the unions today that does include potential closing of the bases at NCL ,SEN and STN ,
Grim news if true

ash666

30th Jun 2020, 13:28

Very grim.
Apart from Jet2, what else is there flying to multiple foreign destinations?

oldart

30th Jun 2020, 13:39

It did say that Easyjet would still fly from the three bases, obviously 'W' patterns.

N707ZS

30th Jun 2020, 13:41

Easyjet has been neglected at Newcastle for a few year in favour of the bigger competition. Time for Major Ben to get his cheque book out and tice them to Teesside.

Matt4

30th Jun 2020, 13:42

If they do pull the base (which I hope they don't) it could be a green light for FR to open a base but lets not get carried away yet

SWBKCB

30th Jun 2020, 13:58

Easyjet has been neglected at Newcastle for a few year in favour of the bigger competition.

Really? Not what I've heard. Not a huge surprise as the base has been stagnant for a while. More to do with the flat local economy than any lack of effort on the airports part.

Apart from Jet2, what else is there flying to multiple foreign destinations?

Jet2, TUI, Ryanair. Also flights to major hubs from Air France, KLM, Emirates, BA

davidjohnson6

30th Jun 2020, 14:03

If they do pull the base (which I hope they don't) it could be a green light for FR to open a base but lets not get carried away yet
I wouldn't hold your breath for a Ryanair base at Newcastle to happen any time soon

Douglas Bahada

30th Jun 2020, 15:58

Also probably due to inflexible local employees who "played the game" successfully over the years thus reducing base efficiency. I am told that late or non reporting resulted in a constant stream of people being taxied in to achieve the schedule. To a certain extent they are now reaping what they sowed.

But as usual it is the good ones which will feel it the most.

LiamNCL

30th Jun 2020, 16:22

easyJet seemed to have lost intrest in NCL years ago and this comes as no suprise.

SWBKCB

30th Jun 2020, 16:25

So how many destinations not otherwise served from NCL are at risk - Barcelona, Belfast, Bristol, Geneva, Jersey, Nice, Split? I think all except Jersey and Split are bases, so we may still see something?

jensdad

30th Jun 2020, 16:48

Yes, I suspect that there won't actually be a massive reduction in flights by EZY at Newcastle. Even Jersey could easily be operated as a W from Liverpool, Edinburgh, Bristol etc. Still very sad news for the folks who will likely lose their jobs.

apaul

30th Jun 2020, 17:08

Would expect Belfast and Bristol (year round), Geneva (winter) and Jersey (summer) to be kept.

SWBKCB

30th Jun 2020, 17:32

There might not be big reduction in the number of destinations lost overall, but I would bet on a significant reduction in flights.

GrahamK

30th Jun 2020, 18:37

There might not be big reduction in the number of destinations lost overall, but I would bet on a significant reduction in flights.
certainly during the summer. During the winter, the based aircraft arent utilised heavily

tigertanaka

30th Jun 2020, 18:51

Would expect Belfast and Bristol (year round), Geneva (winter) and Jersey (summer) to be kept.

I understood Barcelona and Split were partially underwritten by cruise companies so maybe they will stay as well (assuming cruising returns at some point)?

MKY661

30th Jun 2020, 20:20

Haven't they operated a pattern to Malaga in the past as well? Think they did BFS-NCL-AGP-BFS or something like that? Or I may have gotten the wrong airport completely!

FRatSTN

30th Jun 2020, 20:41

They've definitely done something like it in the past. I think one aircraft did a BFS-LTN-AGP-BFS, while a second covered LTN-BFS-AGP-LTN in order to serve early AM arrivals to LTN and BFS on both legs. You could achieve similar with aircraft starting out from the same airport serving a foreign link in counterflow inbetween, but it's a complex bit of scheduling and one I doubt will become commonplace.

SWBKCB

1st Jul 2020, 07:00

Out of Newcastle they've done BFS-NCL-AGP/ALC-BFS and NCL-BFS-AGP/ALC-NCL in recent years, and also something similar through Bristol in the past. Gives the advantage of an early morning domestic departure and then a flight to the Med at a more civilised time after the 'first wave'. All get's a bit lopsided with only one base in the set up...

Albert Hall

1st Jul 2020, 08:03

I would not build up hopes of any significant amount of flying remaining on non-based aircraft. The bases at BFS and BRS have redundancies as well (although BFS looks to be the smallest impact of any of the UK bases) and so there is no movement of capacity into these airports to counteract that being lost at NCL, SEN and STN.

SWBKCB

2nd Jul 2020, 06:15

Interesting statement from an easyjet spokeswoman (my underlining):
“As we have only just started this consultation and no decisions have yet been taken, the proposals are close our Newcastle base at the end of August so customers booked to fly from the airport over the summer will not be affected as a result of this. Newcastle remains an important network point for us and we will still continue to serve the airport as a destination as part of our wider network as much of our flying is inbound from bases around the UK. These flights will continue as they do today.”
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/easyjet-closure-newcastle-airport-what-18517752

10 DME ARC

7th Jul 2020, 06:16

What is going on with re-starting flights at NCL?? No BA yet.... no wonder MME LCY flights seemed to have good loads yesterday! KLM/AF no night stopper/early morning departure yet?? Look at AMS on FR24 around 0700(BST) just about every UK regional has an arrival first thing into AMS! Even Inverness!!??
I would dearly like to use the airport but with no EK and no hub connection its impossible! MAN here I come!

P330

7th Jul 2020, 06:41

Not sure the loads on MME were good if you read the Teesside thread. In addition, no KLM morning departure until August there.

Very few few people flying yet...

GrahamK

7th Jul 2020, 06:42

SWBKCB

7th Jul 2020, 07:24

KLM and AF both have daily flight, KL mid morning, AF either mid morning or late afternoon depending on day.
It does seem the airport is lagging behind mind, especially given that MAN now has its ET link back, and NCL/BA cant even get a daily LHR up and running

BA back next week? Presume you mean EK rather than ET - if so, how many other UK regional routes are back apart from MAN? "lagging behind" is a bit unfair, for an airport in such a small region, NCL does well for hub routes.

GrahamK

7th Jul 2020, 08:04

BA back next week? Presume you mean EK rather than ET - if so, how many other UK regional routes are back apart from MAN? "lagging behind" is a bit unfair, for an airport in such a small region, NCL does well for hub routes.
naw, ET I meant. In the context in that you wouldnt really think of them as a bread and butter operator.

We'll have to see what plans, if any, the airport has for replacing easyJet too.

10 DME ARC

7th Jul 2020, 10:01

BA were supposed to be back 4th July....never happened? With LHR-EDI & GLA 14 each per week and Aberdeen 11 per week Scotland is well covered!?

TheLambtonWorm

7th Jul 2020, 10:49

Got an email from Eurowings this morning with a link to flights that are resuming this month. The link states NCL-DUS is starting again this month but when you try to book there's no flights until September.

mmeteesside

7th Jul 2020, 11:06

BA were supposed to be back 4th July....never happened? With LHR-EDI & GLA 14 each per week and Aberdeen 11 per week Scotland is well covered!?

Now delayed until 16th it seems, once a day until the end of August

HH6702

7th Jul 2020, 11:34

If the trains is any indication of people travelling to London from the north east then it’s no wonder BA have set it back.

most trains only have around 30-40 people instead of 300 so unless people start booking flights they won’t run them yet

cost BA more at the minute

GBYAJ

13th Jul 2020, 18:10

Went past the airport yesterday, as it was quiet went to have a look at what was on the ground:

TUI - looks like 1 737 has left, with 2 full colour scheme on the ground together with 2 sunwing. Anyone know the plans for these and how many will be “based” for the summer. Plan was 4, is it down to 1/2 or something else?

Easyjet - 2 airbus seemed to be back. May be wrong but will these be based and flying from
NCl?

jet 2 - didn’t count them but may have been 4 or 5. Again, anyone know the plan for the rest of the summer regarding how many will be based.

nb expect no of basings and actual flights to be quite fluid.