BELFAST INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT - BFS (Aldergrove)

[Husky One]

'Baby' fares my a*s. Can't see the orange machine getting too excited about the new competition in that case. EI even managed better than that. Don't forget to add a small mortgage to park the car at BHD for a week :bored:

[cuthere]

Don't forget to add a small mortgage to park the car at BHD for a week

Folks, are we forgetting that the ~500,000 people who live in the NISRA designated Belfast Metropolitan Area can get to BHD using public transport for a few quid? Costs more than a few quid to get to BFS.

Just a question.

[Timed~Out]

Husky - Its a small mortgage whichever airport you choose, both airports 1 week parking from 20th-27th April arriving at 0900, departing at 2100, BHD £39.95, BFS £40.....:hmm:

[tigger2k8]

Husky - Its a small mortgage whichever airport you choose, both airports 1 week parking from 20th-27th April arriving at 0900, departing at 2100, BHD £39.95, BFS £40.....:hmm:various other car parks round BFS, some offer £3/day.. quite sure somewhere done £2.50 for awhile

the pricing isnt competitive for the flights with EZY and WW, are they hoping people wont shop around and will just pay the price if they live closer to BHD? car parking is the least of the issues

[david1994]

Just a heads up one of the 3 Lanazarote flights tomorrow will be operated by the B757-300 departing at 10:35 as TCX3412

[BFS101]

Tcx8056 ace a320-200 07.00
tcx3412 ace b757-300 10.35
tcx2138 ace a321-200 11.35

[BFS101]

New York route reprieved, but future still uncertain...

Threatened New York air route reprieved, but future is uncertain - Business News, Business - Belfasttelegraph.co.uk (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/business-news/threatened-new-york-air-route-reprieved-but-future-is-uncertain-15149723.html)





It is understood that Continental will be monitoring the route over the summer before making a final decision.


Boosted by the stay of execution, BIA chiefs are now hoping to set up more transatlantic and long-haul routes to Toronto, Chicago, Boston and Dubai — but the APD issue remains a huge obstacle to this progress. Dublin Airport currently handles 1.5 million long-haul and transatlantic passengers every year — and Belfast International is desperate to tap into that lucrative market.

The Executive wants Northern Ireland to be made a special case like the outlaying Scottish islands, which are exempt from the aviation levy.
As with corporation tax, it believes the province qualifies for special treatment because it borders another country that can undercut it tax-wise.

Tourism Minister Arlene Foster said she was aware of the strategic importance to Northern Ireland of the Continental flight.

[EI-BUD]

I read recently that John Doran is quoted as saying in the NI travel newspaper that he expects shortly to be able to announce a new operator for BFS BHX and EMA. This came as a surprise. In addition, it would he and his team are pressing for flight to Copenhagen and Dubai among other places.

So MAN is sorted, and if he is for real about EMA and BHX ( i know this has been discussed to death on here) does this give any weight to Aer Lingus regional stepping in? With the PSO routes closing in mid July would Aer Lingus Regional look at doing a couple of BFS routes even in W rotations any time soon. Other options look limited as I cannot see EZY going to EMA not with 319 in any case, BHX a possibility, but if EZY why would they not have announced with the MAN and LTN routes?

On an aside note only one week to go and BFS gets it's LTN route back.

EI-BUD

[NWSRG]

Dubai? Is there really a market for Dubai from Belfast? Ok, it would offer plenty of onward connections with EK, but how many people would that benefit?

I can see some of the North American destinations working, but not Dubai...

[flying officer kite]

Emirates is a very popular airline for people travelling to and from Northern Ireland. They are well connected, and on many routes can be cheaper than using other airlines, even if it does mean going via Dubai.

Emirates have a good market on the island of Malta, a place much smaller and less populated than NI, and yet they manage (i believe) a daily A330, operating via Larnaca. Whats to stop Emirates doing the same to Belfast, join it up with one of the other daily routes they do in the mainland UK? Just an idea of course :)

[Tower Ranger]

Well going through Dubai opens up the whole of Asia and through to Austalasia but its at least 12 hours of flying to get to anywhere thats not India. The problem would be to convince the NI traveller that it might be better than two weeks on the beer in Spain.
Heck i`ll use it twice a year if they give me a good enough discount!

[eastern wiseguy]

if they give me a good enough discount

Like you need it!! lol

[BFS101]

£1 for a smoke...

Belfast airport charges £1 for a pre-flight smoke - Northern Ireland, Local & National - Belfasttelegraph.co.uk (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/belfast-airport-charges-1-for-a-preflight-smoke-15150149.html)

Guess BFS are heading down the low-cost path, that if you want anything more than the very basic, you have to pay a little extra.

However, don't people realise yet that smoking is very bad for your health!! := Don't start the habit kids!!

[NorthernCounties]

I actually think that's quite a clever money making idea. But I admit that as a non-smoker, it's easy for me to say.

[Helen49]

£1 for a fag is interesting!

I thought smoking in public places was contrary to UK law. Does this mean that pubs, hotels, work places etc can contravene this law merely by making a charge and thereby excluding the non-smokers? What is the difference between this and merely putting a sign on the door saying 'smokers only'...apart from the £1 charge? Am I missing something here?

[BFS101]

I thought smoking in public places was contrary to UK law.
It is illegal to smoke in public areas that are indoor, or more strictly speaking more than 50% enclosed.

From reading the article, it would appear that BFS have constructed a secure, outdoor area, with mesh style walls, therefore would be considered less than 50% enclosed and would not be contravening the Tobacco Control regulations.


I actually think that's quite a clever money making idea.
Initially I'd say they would just be wanting to cover the cost of making this structure. As I take it, it is post security, so at least now smokers have the choice, albeit costing £1. Up until now, the only place smokers could partake in their habit was outside the front of the terminal, and no facility was previously available for those after security. An extra choice, but at a nominal fee.

[mysecretsmile]

They are chancers charging a £1 for this - but not at all surprised !

Both Belfast airport's seem to be milking their passengers for every penny they can get and there seems no let up in this.

Dublin airport have an airside smoking area at one of their bars and I don't think there is a charge for this so why should NI passengers.

[BFS101]

Dublin airport have an airside smoking area at one of their bars and I don't think there is a charge for this so why should NI passengers.Different management styles, different income streams, different customer priorities, etc.

BOH charge £2.50 as a drop off fee, LTN and EDI £1.
Other UK airports have a development fee, BLK £10, NQY £5.
LTN also charges £2.50 for luggage trolley's.

[Helen49]

BFS 101
Thank you for the info. One lives and learns!

[eastern wiseguy]

It smacks of desperation......Between a lack of choice of destinations and penny pinching with charging money to LEAVE CUSTOMERS at the door this is rapidly turning into an airport which folks will happily leave for Dublin.

I am a fan of the place (dammit I work there) but this death by a thousand cuts .

I believe in giving customers value for money.


This makes the place seem cheap and nasty.

[Timed~Out]

Eastern - not often I agree with you but definitely a strange decision. I work in your competition but will happily fly from wherever I can get the best deal. Having flown out of EGAA recently for the first time in a few years I was amazed how run down and dirty the departures lounge was, not an attractive place to be!

Maybe the NATS contract is costing so much there isn`t any spare cash for cleaners....?;)

[BFS101]

Thomson and Thomas Cook summer 2012 programmes on-sale today. Nothing new from Belfast unsurprisingly, Egypt and Tunisia both planned to operate.

In fairness the Thomas Cook flight information seems to exactly mirror this years, so may undergo some change as bookings progress. BHD also keeping the peak Reus it would seem.

[eastern wiseguy]

unsurprisingly, Egypt and Tunisia both planned to operate.


Well it surprises me. I think it will be a year or two before I venture anywhere near the Maghreb.

[BFS101]

Nothing new from Belfast was the unsurprising element. Egypt and Tunisia to operate for summer 2012 just a statement.

[Aaron9890]

PGT1483 Dalaman 13:00

arrival btw

[BFS101]

It's operating for Thomson until the arrival of the full-time based TOM frame towards the end of May. Rather than a TOM sitting idle for much of the week, airlines such as Pegasus and Air Europa are taking up the slack until then. Sharm has been the only destination served by TOM so far!

[EGAC is Better]

A330 G-EOMA currently on what appears to be an app to EGAA. Nothing on the airport arrivals/deps for Monarch. Anyone got any info on what it is doing here?

[eastern wiseguy]

Anyone got any info on what it is doing here?


Yes thanks......and it just left......

[tigger2k8]

I see the first LTN flight got the water cannon treatment

Happy return for easyJet! - Belfast International Airport (http://www.belfastairport.com/en/news/4/51/happy-return-for-easyjet.html)

Monarch performs charters for the other side of 25/07...

[EGAC is Better]

Cheers guys! Thought it might have been something to do with the other side. I have clocked similar flight numbers a few times in recent weeks operating as MON A330's from a place not so far from Oxford.

[BFS101]

What have TCX based at BFS this year?? Last I heard was based A230, increasing to A321 over peak June / July. Still the case??

[AIRPORT66]

Thomascook is using the A321 at the minute.

[EI-BUD]

I saw Jet2 Boeing 757 coming into land about an hour ago, does anybody know where it was coming in from? Or is it going to be around for a while?

Thanks

EI-BUD

[blueplatinum]

LTN also charges £2.50 for luggage trolley's. BRS charge £2 for trolleys.

[Jamie2k9]

I think the Jet 2 B757 may being going to Lourdes in the morning.

[Aaron9890]

Does any know what aircraft is going to Palma tomorrow for TCX. Is it the A321???

[Torque2]

Yes G-Niko

[Jamie2k9]

ACE - Sun, Mon, Wed, Fri
TFS - Tue, Thur, Sat
AGP - Tue, Thur, Sat
FCO - Wed, Sun - back year round.
LHR - 3 daily

Still no flights after 16:10 on Mon & Fri with one aircraft.

[BFS101]

With ACE and TFS back for the winter, wonder did LPA not perform as well as was hoped. You'd think Gran Canaria would also be an ideal winter-sun destination. Great to see second aircraft returned to BFS for the winter, and Rome to operate year round!!

[tigger2k8]

Still no flights after 16:10 on Mon & Fri with one aircraft.

still time to sqeeze in a rotation to another destination, but will they?

[MontyP]

still time to sqeeze in a rotation to another destination, but will they?

Our survey says............no

[Stewart28]

Can anyone tell me if the viewing gallery is closed or open

[Danmadole]

Viewing gallery at BFS is closed. Has been for a few years now.

[EI-BUD]

Given that Friday to Sunday/Monday are the most popular outbound weekend break days(??) would this not mean a possible extra destination for the weekends?

I am certainly pleased to say that there hasnt been a cut back to one 320 for the winter!!

EI-BUD

[BCA03]

Jet2 757 back in BFS this Tuesday for all you plane spotters..

Another charter to Lourdes... In early morning and returning after 1300:D:D

[mutleyshriek]

Been told Aer Arann making an announcement shortly concerning BFS ops.1 aircraft for EI regional(BHX) and 1 aircraft for Aer Arann ops.Anyone else heard anything similar.

[Aaron9890]

Been told Aer Arann making an announcement shortly concerning BFS ops.1 aircraft for EI regional(BHX) and 1 aircraft for Aer Arann ops.Anyone else heard anything similar.

No haven't heard about it but i am right in thinking that i mentioned it a couple months ago. Think it was on this thread, could have been BHD thread. Wat routes would they do??? the ones Manx2 did??? Galaway, Cork, Waterford maybe ??? who knows we will just have to wait and find out. If its true thats good news bring in some ATRs into BFS :)

[tigger2k8]

It was rumored towards the start of this year that EI regional was in talks with BFS about replacing some of the domestic routes lost by WW, however ive heard nothing since then but i'd say its possible.. looks like BFS has realised it needs to get its finger out.. with EZY looking to add new routes / increase capacity as Ali Gayward has said in a recent media clip looks like the future is finally looking a bit better at BFS... YouTube - Belfast International Airport welcomes home London Luton service )

[BFS101]

Any information regarding the long delay (so far 12+ hrs) on CO95 Newark? Tech at BFS??

[sam1993]

From the Continental site:

Status: Delayed - Maintenance
Scheduled Time: 11:15
Scheduled Date: Sat., 21 May., 2011
Estimated Time: 23:30
Estimated Date: Sat., 21 May., 2011

[eastern wiseguy]

Last I was told was they were waiting for a part from LHR. 2300z departure.That was at 1600 though.

[cuthere]

Let's hope it gets out:

FVXX01 EGRR 212007
VA ADVISORY
DTG: 20110521/1900Z
VAAC: LONDON
VOLCANO: GRIMSVOTN 1703-01
PSN: N6425 W01720
AREA: ICELAND
SUMMIT ELEV: 1725
ADVISORY NR: 2011/001
INFO SOURCE: ICELANDIC MET OFFICE
AVIATION COLOUR CODE: UNKNOWN
ERUPTION DETAILS: PLUME FROM GRIMSVOTN EXPECTED TO 11000M
OBS VA DTG: 21/1900Z
OBS VA CLD: NO VA EXP
FCST VA CLD +6HR: 22/0100Z NO VA EXP
FCST VA CLD +12HR: 22/0700Z NO VA EXP
FCST VA CLD +18HR: 22/1300Z NO VA EXP
RMK: IMO REPORTED POSSIBLE ERUPTION 201105211900Z. IMO
CONFIRMED REPORT AS AIRCRAFT REPORTS VISIBLE WHITE PLUME
OVER VOLCANO AT 15000 TO 18000FT BUT TURNING BLACK AT
BOTTOM, INDICATING PRESENCE OF ASH. ALSO ON IR AND ASH
SATELLITE IMAGERY.
NXT ADVISORY: 201105212200Z=

[Aaron9890]

I would love to go and see some attempted landings today as there are supposed 70 or even 80mph winds.

[JonnyBfs]

TOM9018 Toronto 10:30 18:00 ESTIMATING AT
(on BFS arrivals)

Sunwing WG9018
Belfast
May 24, 06:30 Departed May 24, 06:36 1
(on YYZ departures)

[MontyP]

This summers based TOM aircraft. It's a Sunwing 738 instead of an A320

[JonnyBfs]

flying to Toronto? is this a charter one off?

[Cazza_fly]

flying to Toronto? is this a charter one off?


No it's arriving from Toronto. As MontyP has said it's a summer lease for Thomson Airways, though there may be a limited number of passengers onboard. It's due to go to Luton after though... It could actually be for the Dublin based Thomson unit though, as I believe they are having 1x 733 and a 738 from Sunwing there over the summer?

[tigger2k8]

I see FR has diverted 2 flights to BFS from LDY (according to arrivals page), however the LPL flight is showing as landed in BHD instead

edit - FMS has changed, FR 9884 was showing as landed in BHD and BFS for a short time

[Aaron9890]

OAI872P Exeter 13:20

ST 2828 Munich 16:30

I believe they are Olympic Airlines and Germainia, but what are they doing at BFS?????

[planenut321]

OAI872P is a positioning flight from NQY/EXE which had operated to Verona for Newmarket and is a Tor Air flight. It will be operating a charter to Verona from BFS at 14:30. A Newmarket flight I would imagine.

[Aaron9890]

I live in the outskirts of doagh and I see the planes on their flightpath in to BFS. I just saw a TCX from Mahon ( I checked the website). Does anyone know what aircraft it was, it looked big like a B757

[clareview]

Surprising if its a B757 as I would have assumed A320/321. Grateful for any info

[david1994]

It was a B757-200 (G-OJIB) currently on stand 21 for return to Mahon.

[ib26uk]

Any signs on the horizon of a BFS-BHX route starting up ??

I`m going to Belfast in November and would be VERY keen for easyJet to start the route - Save me going up to LPL ( better flight times then MAN )

I know it maybe wishfull thinking but I travel to Belfast about 3x a year and would gladly welcome easyJet at BHX !!

[frequentflyer2]

I'm sure you have your reasons but why don't you just travel on Flybe to BHD? bmibaby are doing it now as well.

[david1994]

Anyone know whats up with the B738 tonight?
TOM1184 Burgas 19:10 DELAYED INDEFINITELY

[Jamie2k9]

It's expected into Bourgas at 15:50 tomorrow.

BFS - PMI due in 09:55 delayed 23:35
PMI - BFS due in 20:50 delayed 10:10 on Wednesday

All details on Thomson website.

The PMI delay may change because I can't see LDY staying open until 02:30 on Wednesday for the arrival from PMI and the departure at 03:30.

[ib26uk]

I do have my reasons - I love easyJet !!!

I always fly flybe -- 17 flights in 3 years across the UK -- Would like a change -- Plus I dont like bmibaby - Too many flights cancelled with them - Has left a sour taste...

[BHD2BFS]

hey, just wondering if anyone has heard anymore news/ rumours about the possibility of aer lingus regional starting from the airport??

thanks

[CARNMANORLAD]

So does the a/c that shouldve done Belfast-Bourgas and Belfast-Palma do the Derry-Palma route today? If so will it come back from Palma to Belfast and then take the Bourgas folk?

[DannyKelly22]

from looking at the Departure Board and Arrivals, the Burgas isn't arriving until 17.52 pm a delay of nearly 23 hours, However the PMI flight was only 4 hours delayed this morning on take off, so does this mean they have a hire in? to cover the rest of the TOM schedule.

Reason im asking is my family are in SSH and are due back @ 2.55am on Thursday morning. Just trying to work out the possibility of a delay. and if the hire in can even make it as far as SSH from BFS as i know the flight was a full load on the outbound.


Cheers


Danny

[david1994]

BFS-PMI-LDY-PMI-BFS is operated by the FLZR so it looks like she was fixed.

[Torque2]

It was delayed due to having had a lightning strike.

[flying officer kite]

DannyKelly22, i wouldnt worry, SSH is normally a 757 job, id like to see a 737 with full load attempt BFS-SSH

[BFS101]

TCX operated SSH with a 757 over the winter as the A320 couldn't make it non-stop, but believe that for the summer SSH will be the TOM 738 from Sunwing operating direct.

[DannyKelly22]

i can confirm that it was the sunwing 737-800 which operated the BFS-SSH last week. Its operated using the BFS based plane, which is why i was wondering have the subbed in a plane to cover the delay????

[Jamie2k9]

IF the Sunwing B738 operating the PMI flight then they are getting another aircraft to operate the Bourgas flight. Tomorrows flights will be on time.

[DannyKelly22]

so far tomorrow's TOM IBZ and SSH flights are showing delays of 1hour 40 minutes. any reason why, the BJI flight is due into BFS at 4.10am and suppose to go back out at 6am to IBZ so cnt work out why the delay unless scheduled maintenance,

[Jamie2k9]

Burgas has yet to depart so it would suggest it going at Midnight when the PMI arrives back.

the BJI flight is due into BFS at 4.10am

It due into Burgas 06:02 which is 04:02 here so it wont be in BFS until tomorrow morning sometime.

[Aaron9890]

Fancy the Faroe Islands? - Belfast International Airport (http://www.belfastairport.com/en/news/3/54/fancy-the-faroe-islands.html)

I see this is the latest route (only a one off)

Does anyone know what airline and aircraft will be used??


EDIT-Actually i think i know what is going on here... There is a football match in Belfast on 10 August 2011-against the Faroe Islands. They will obviously be using this plane as a charter for the Faroe Island Football Team. More than likley it will be Atlantic Airways so this means they will use the aircraft on the way back to the Faroes for passengers. Quite smart from Travel Solutions.

[JSCL]

It's with Atlantic Airways. However won't capture footballers. Flight back on the 10th leaves Vagar at 21:00.

[DannyKelly22]

anyone know whats up with TOM 278 to SSH, i knew yesterday that it would be carrying a 1h40minute delay, now it just seems to be getting pushed back further and further, was pushed back to 4pm departure there and now again to 4.35pm, Am only interested as I have family out in SSH awaiting its return? Are they still having problems after monday nights lightening strike?

[BHD2BFS]

just seen on wiki that it says easyjet are adding madrid next year and jet2 paphos and dalaman
is this true??

[tigger2k8]

just seen on wiki that it says easyjet are adding madrid next year and jet2 paphos and dalaman
is this true??

i wouldn't hold my breath.. theres been many routes posted up on wiki that have never happened, unless theres proof of the routes coming id say those who keep the wiki page up to date will remove them soon

[DannyKelly22]

its ok guys, family just got told flight is now back on-time. They are using the MAN aircraft to get them home to BFS and have now delayed the MAN-SSH by 24 hours. Does this mean the guys in BFS awaiting to go to SSH will be going back out on the MAN aircraft?????

[CARNMANORLAD]

just seen on wiki that it says easyjet are adding madrid next year and jet2 paphos and dalaman
is this true??

The person who posted on WIKI has specific dates for route starts so who knows it could be someone with inside scope. I always thought Madrid would be Easyjets next route from Belfast.

[Aaron9890]

I have a lot to tell and ask. I have seen my fair share of news today.

I saw the TOM arrive at about 6 and it wasn't the Sunwig Airlines. It was Thomson Livery and if i am right it was a big plane. If i am right a B757?? i saw the Thomas cook 757 the other day. So they must be in together.

Also i saw that BAE system hawks were out today from RAF, Don't know what they were at but i was in the house and i think it was around 3 or 4 and the noise was shocking, at first i thought a plane was going down because i have never seen BAEs over our house ( which is outside Doagh) so i didnt suspect anything apart from easy jet going to scotland. unfortunately didn't get enough time to get the camera out and take a video, they where that fast. They were very low as well. I would say about 2,000ft. Anyone know what they were doing?

Regarding the MAD route i said that a couple of months ago, didn't think it would be that long before they announced it. However don't trust wiki.

[DannyKelly22]

Yea the thomson was a 737-800, it positioned in from MAN on Monday night to operate the BJI flight which was 29 hours delayed, the sunwing operated the BFS-PMI-LDY-PMI-BFS flight

[Bfs bloke]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but they were a pair of tornado gr4's.. Came in and did a fast sweep of the runway ,went around then swept again... Went around then landed... Always good to see at Bfs!

[AIRPORT66]

The first heard that one MAD the new routes for next year are 2 German 1French 1Portugeese.

[BHD2BFS]

airporter if that is true, we potentially have 7 new european routes for next year which is great!!
any more information on who is starting them??
but will these new routes be at the loss of ones currently available??

[True Blue]

I see the references on Wiki were removed by last night.

TB

[EI-BUD]

The first heard that one MAD the new routes for next year are 2 German 1French 1Portugeese


Would be surprised but delighted at MAD as a choice, still say if EZY didnt see a viable option in a Rome route why would MAD be different, would imagine MAD less popular than Rome?

Portugeese route could be Lisbon Porto or the Azores?
French, well maybe a twice weekly La Rochelle or Nantes?

EI-BUD

[Jack1985]

Aer Lingus have fully released their Belfast-International schedule for Winter 2011/2012. Routes include...

Alicante | 2PW (Mondays, Fridays)
Lanzarote| 4PW (Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays, Sundays)
London Heathrow | 21PW (3x Daily)
Malaga | 3PW (Tuesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays)
Rome | 2PW (Wednesdasys, Sundays)
Tenerife | 3PW (Tuesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays)

aerlingus.com :ok:

[tigger2k8]

Thought EI would add something to get rid of a nightstopper at 1600 ish on Mon +Fri, a strange choice though as usually EZY has the demand covered for ALC.

[airportview]

can anyone shed any light on Aer Lingus dropping LPA from BFS for this winter having just introduced route for summer2011
I would of thought winter bookings would be a lot stronger than summer bookings for this Canaries route and it could of justified at least 1pw or 2pw in winter rather than .. ACE at 4xweekly flights...??
Mon -FRi slot now gone to ALC for winter

[Andrew R]

I was wondering if anybody had any information on the cargo flights operating in and out of out BFS?

I have been looking for a list of flights but can't find anything online.

Thanks a million. Just writing a report on the advantages/disadvantages of using airfreight vrs the ferries between mainland UK, Northern Ireland and also the Republic of Ireland.

[EI-BUD]

Andrew R

To the best of my knowledge, Jet2 fly over and back between BFS and EMA each night starting at 7pm over and back until about 3/4 am, I think 2 return trips! I think Stansted is also served not sure if Jet2 do this but have seen Titan on this one before.

Not entirely sure but Cologne served by one of the A300s.

EI-BUD

[AIRPORT66]

See Aerlingus in Bfs base are going on industrial action on friday does this mean flights will be cancelled,this airline is doing itself no favours only make people less confident on booking flights with them getting as bad as BA.

[Jamie2k9]

BFS and LGW pilots going on strike is not official yet. It will depend on the out come of talks tonight at LRC.

If they do serve notice of strike it can't talk place until 12 June and not 10 June as stated in media.

[Andrew R]

Thanks a million for that.

Is it a 737QC Jet2 operate for those flights? Do ACL operate any flights to BFS onbehalf of FedEx? Who is operating the A300...DHL or ACL?

[DannyKelly22]

also if EI do go on strike at BFS its not necessarily a strike, its a work to rule, so in effect as there are enough pilots at BFS to cover the schedule this will only results in flights delayed 1 hour as pilots show up late for duty. The pilots at BFS are intending on working to rule due to pay not roostering conditions.

[EI-BUD]

According to an EI spokesman on the radio yesterday, he said that LGW & BFS may be effected as both bases are short of pilots, and some Dublin pilots are working from there as a result of the shortage and these would be involved.

EI-BUD

[Aaron9890]

Do Maresk not do the cargo flights to stansted???

I think TNT, Jet2 and DHL all do EMA.

Also i was wandering when there is a military flight bringing troops home what planes are used?? I remember last time it was an Air Seychelles 767 cause it was said on here. Is this the usual military flight? Its just id love to watch one of those big boys land in BFS. does anyone know when the next Military flight is due in?? or is it kept secret???

[tigger2k8]

Do Maresk not do the cargo flights to stansted???

I think TNT, Jet2 and DHL all do EMA.

Also i was wandering when there is a military flight bringing troops home what planes are used?? I remember last time it was an Air Seychelles 767 cause it was said on here. Is this the usual military flight? Its just id love to watch one of those big boys land in BFS. does anyone know when the next Military flight is due in?? or is it kept secret???

I think the wiki for BFS is reasonably accurate for the cargo destinations

As for military charters, obviously kept secret for obvious reasons, last year saw A321/330/340's and 767's make an appearance throughout the year, Monarch is a regular sight

[eastern wiseguy]

Do Maresk not do the cargo flights to stansted???

Maersk (WhiteStar) do not fly to Stansted from Belfast. They fly to East Midlands most evenings.

[BFS101]

Some information relating to BFS and to the APD tax abolition.

Belfast International Airport in call for all councils to back APD move - Northern Ireland, Local & National - Belfasttelegraph.co.uk (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/belfast-international-airport-in-call-for-all-councils-to-back-apd-move-16009683.html)

Northern Ireland air travellers pay £1m a week in aviation taxes - Northern Ireland, Local & National - Belfasttelegraph.co.uk (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/northern-ireland-air-travellers-pay-1m-a-week-in-aviation-taxes-16009727.html)

[Facelookbovvered]

Not sure where I sit on this one!

I object strongly to the amount of money sent by England to Scotland, NI & Wales, I object even more strongly to APD! Having a separate rate for NI whilst understandable would distort the market somewhat, it might mean people flying to BFS to avoid APD although the rules on stop over times are very strict, that said if you book the flights independently there is bugger all HMRC can do about it.

The best one could hope for is that it fractures the whole deeply flawed APD system

[eastern wiseguy]

I am fairly straightforward on this. There should be a discounted rate for those communities which have a reliance on air travel. If I lived in Manchester or Glasgow I would have a choice of rapid transport. Of off the "mainland" we don't. We are being penalised for this (understandable) failing.

On an island wide basis we have a superior facility 100 minutes or so down the road which is charging 3 euros for the same departure tax. We are exporting routes and passengers....and ultimately jobs.

[airportview]

aer lingus pulled tomorrows flight BFS to LPA.... passengers flying from dub 24 hrs later.... does anyone have load factors for this route, as route also pulled from timetable for winter 11/12 having just launched for summer

[Jamie2k9]

aer lingus pulled tomorrows flight BFS to LPA.... passengers flying from dub 24 hrs later.... does anyone have load factors for this route, as route also pulled from timetable for winter 11/12 having just launched for summer


Next Friday 17 June is also pulled.

They would have to reduce ACE or TFS to operate LPA during the winter.

[blueplatinum]

aer lingus pulled tomorrows flight BFS to LPA.... passengers flying from dub 24 hrs later.... does anyone have load factors for this route, as route also pulled from timetable for winter 11/12 having just launched for summerMy partner flew BFS-LPA on EI on Monday and said the aircraft was half empty. If they are going to pull this stunt then they really should schedule the DUB and BFS flights to be on the same days of the week.

I think part of the problem is that the route is totally new and was not publicised well in advance. A few years ago LS launched four routes to LPA with very little notice, operated by large (233 seat I think) aircraft which then flew nearly empty for 6 months. They withdrew from LPA altogether after those 6 months and have only recently tentatively returned.

I do believe there is a big pent up demand for this route in Northern Ireland as the TOM/TCX flights from BFS to LPA are always full when they operate. EI as a scheduled airline just need to give passengers more notice of new routes.

If PAX wanted to fly from DUB they would take FR at a fraction of the price and if FR ever return to BHD (if they ever extend the runway) or BFS they will kill EI dead in the water anyway ;)

[blueplatinum]

On Sunday my partner dropped me off at BFS and had to pay £1 for the privilege. The only difference between that bit of road and any other was the barriers erected purely to enforce the £1 charge. No actual "service" was received in return for the £1.

What the :mad: is going on? Has the madness that has enmeshed itself in every walk of life on the mainland finally crossed the water to Northern Ireland as well?

[Jamie2k9]

It is just not possible to change the DUB departures to LPA to match BFS ones this late into the season.

[blueplatinum]

It is just not possible to change the DUB departures to LPA to match BFS ones this late into the season.What I meant was that when they planned the scheduling in the first place it would have been an obvious contingency.

[tigger2k8]

On Sunday my partner dropped me off at BFS and had to pay £1 for the privilege. The only difference between that bit of road and any other was the barriers erected purely to enforce the £1 charge. No actual "service" was received in return for the £1.

What the http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/censored.gif is going on? Has the madness that has enmeshed itself in every walk of life on the mainland finally crossed the water to Northern Ireland as well? Most airports have some form of additional charges now.. some charge an airport development fee to every passenger (£5-10)... BHD tries to lure people in to paying more at the car park to get fast track security/wifi and a shorter walking distance.. and now if you return to the free drop off zone within 30 minutes (i think?) of your previous visit you'll get charged.. BFS charges £1 for dropping off and if you smoke theres an area available for £1...

If £1 breaks the bank for you, then do what quite a few people do, stop randomly on the road and let people get out.. theres no enforcement in place to stop it from being done.. just causes great annoyance for those who get stuck behind you.. there is a bit of a grace period in the Long Stay carpark, simply drive into it, get a ticket, let your passengers out then go back out for no fee, only a 3 minute walk from the terminal.

welcome to the real world of making money

as for BFS-LPA, i think for the last 2 weeks its also operated from DUB, getting this close to summer loads should be increasing, i wonder is it to do with crew problems, as BFS is regulary staffed by pilots from DUB..

[Aaron9890]

BA 4507 Naples 13:30
??????
does anyone have a clue what this flight is for????
is it something to do with the PM

[blueplatinum]

BA 4507 Naples 13:30
??????
does anyone have a clue what this flight is for????
is it something to do with the PMIt took off 35 minutes late. I guess he kept them waiting.

[mutleyshriek]

Announcement either late wednesday or early thursday,all good:ok:.

[BFS101]

Easyjet??
Aer Lingus??
Who??

[mutleyshriek]

I cannot possibly comment...............:D

[Jamie2k9]

I would guess that its from Easyjet.

[mutleyshriek]

Cant say Jamie,might be the green bird stretching their wings ala the 70s advert.

[BHD2BFS]

i hope its flights to US or canada, we really need some long haul flights,
or is it maybe the aer lingus regional anouncement that has been rumoured on here for a while
fngers crossed

[tigger2k8]

Bmibaby diverted to BFS today from BHD with flaps issues, currently sitting on stand 9.

Rankins is now closed and will re-open in around 2 weeks remoddled, next up is apparently Boots, although have heard it may stay the way it is for awhile. Airports finally looking quite nice.

[cessnarocket]

Airports finally looking quite nice ....... For a cow shed !

[david1994]

Is this aircraft tech? or is LS041A from Leeds going to cover it?

[ILS25]

The impact of Air Passenger Duty is to be investigated by the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee.
A short inquiry will look at how Air Passenger Duty (APD) affects individuals, airports and airlines, businesses and tourism in Northern Ireland.
The inquiry will also look to contrast the UK rate of APD to the low rate in force in the Republic of Ireland.
The Committee will hold its first public evidence session on the inquiry at Parliament Buildings, Stormont on June 21.
A review of APD is currently out for consultation by the Treasury.
The Consumer Council says the tax should be scrapped because of Northern Ireland's dependence on flight connections to Britain.
Antoinette McKeown, Chief Executive of the Consumer Council said: "We are pleased the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee is focusing on a key issue for Northern Ireland consumers.
"The Consumer Council has been clear in demonstrating the impact APD is having on NI passengers.
"Northern Ireland's geographic location means consumers are more reliant on air travel compared to their counterparts in Great Britain.
"Increasing rates of APD for Northern Ireland airports could put at risk the connectivity and routes available from NI airports.
Ms McKeown concluded saying: "It is reassuring to see the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee recognising the need to investigate the issue of APD further."


UTV News - Date set for air tax inquiry (http://www.u.tv/News/Date-set-for-air-tax-inquiry/6b1150fa-c1b8-49ec-97b4-93ad0b45a7c1)

[tigger2k8]

Airports finally looking quite nice ....... For a cow shed ! Theres always one... well its hard to believe but they've spent a decent amount of money doing it

I think its quite obvious that setting the APD for a country that is isolated from the mainland UK and has a neighbouring country that can offer airlines much cheaper rates is putting us at a disadvantage...

Also for those interested the 6th based airbus arrives this month for EZY

[BFS101]

The APD tax is certainly a disadvantage, being the only region of the UK with a land border with another European legal jurisdiction.

Bit off the subject but similar vein, one interesting thing I found out recently and may be of concern for those who frequently fly from DUB. Travel insurance purchased from UK suppliers do not on the whole cover missed departure except from a UK departure point. So if your car breaks down, or something happens on the way to BHD/BFS/LDY and you miss your flight, you will be covered. But if the same thing happens on the way to Dublin, generally you wont be. Aviva in Northern Ireland tried to get this changed for their Northern Irish policy holders, but was not granted. Would seem most UK insurers are the same!!!

[ara01jbb]

Not the only insurance black hole for NI folk. I used to rent cars from branches of Enterprise in Belfast quite a bit, and although they were able to delete the rental clause that forbade taking the car "outside of the United Kingdom" they hadn't been able to extend breakdown coverage. So their advice, if you broke down or were involved in an accident south of the border, was to have the car towed or carried to the border, and then they'd be able to dispatch their own recovery contractors :}

[Jamie2k9]

The APD tax is certainly a disadvantage, being the only region of the UK with a land border with another European legal jurisdiction.


The only disadvantage is to US carriers at BFS.

People who want to go to the UK are not going to go to DUB just to save a few pounds. Before the APD was introduced it was not as if BFS was well connected in Europe and as airlines didn't start operations then why would they now when most are cutting back. If the tax was scrapped it would help the current carriers but if it stays or goes I don't see any European carriers starting at BFS regardless of the Tax. Why would they now when people are traveling less and less.

BFS like most airports in Ireland becomes to dependant on Bucket and Spade routes over the last few years.

[BFS101]

But without the added APD tax, we may have held on to our peak Puerto Plata, Cancun and Sanford. BFS would also look more appealing to help reinstate the lost Toronto link, after over 20 connsecutive years of service! Many of the winter routes I'd guess would be marginal at best, BCN, FCO, EWR and would greatly benefit from the reduction of the APD.

And however unlikely, BFS management have specifically mentioned Dubai, and with a more level playing field, I'd say this would help the cause, no matter how small seemingly insignificant.

As for people from Northern Ireland not using DUB to gain flights to the UK mainland, I think you'd be surprised. Those too connecting to long-haul may well see a financial benefit for using DUB via Europe, that who otherwise would've used EI/BD via LHR, especially being charged twice.

I'm flying BHD-LHR-AUH DXB-LHR-BHD in December, and was shocked at the amount of tax compared to the fare, phenomenal. Three flights in the trip departing UK airports!!

[EI-BUD]

The only disadvantage is to US carriers at BFS


Jamie, it is a disadvantage to NI economy if their local airport is losing passengers to a Dublin flight to the US so much so that CO were questioning their route from Newark. In addition, although at this point in time unlikely that Aer Lingus would look at a transatlantic offering from BFS, with a taxation/ penalty on locals flying from Belfast, that may be just another reason why they might delay any potential route.

If we dont get a concession on taxation and create a more level playing field (with ROI) then CO may not stick around and we will in NI will have no choice but to go to DUB or London etc, and jobs lost etc.


People who want to go to the UK are not going to go to DUB just to save a few pounds



I also think if you had a family coming across from the US family (so say 2 adults and 2 children) an extra £60 each is substantial, so I could well see why they might choose to fly into Dublin!!

[Jamie2k9]

I agree the £60 for US flights needs to go as if it dosn't CO will leave.

Do you see the UK gov going from £12 to 0 like the ROI will be shortly.


I'm flying BHD-LHR-AUH DXB-LHR-BHD in December, and was shocked at the amount of tax compared to the fare, phenomenal. Three flights in the trip departing UK airports!!


It's cheeper to fly to BFS from LHR than DUB with EI when it comes to taxes from LHR side.

[BHD2BFS]

just wondering if anybody has heard of the announcement, that was meant to happen today?

also is their any photos going around of the newly referbished dept lounge? and does any one know what the plans are for the pier that houses the CO flights (sorry dont know the name of the pier) will its also be made over as it is becoming very tired looking

many thanks!!

[ILS25]

Antanov AN-124 parked up at BFS all day. Only news that I have anyway.

Dont think there are any plans to refurbish the international pier, but you are right that it could do with a spruce up.

[Straightahead]

AN 124 departing in the next 30 minutes outbound to SSG(Malabo Airport in Equatorial Guinea).Cargo is aircraft steps made in Dungannon.

[ILS25]

Must have been delayed a bit, he flew over my house in Lisburn about 15 minutes ago. My wife said "whats that", I said "bet I know" and went outside to have look.:)

[tigger2k8]

Took on around 90,000 ltrs of fuel apparently (cant confirm, but wouldnt be surprised if it was more..)... by the time the pushback and checks had been completed and the line up on 25.. took off at around 22:15

BHD2BFS, id like to think the international pier would get a makeover.. even a new carpet and a bit of paint would lighten the place up..

[AIRPORT66]

The cafeteria in arrivals is next,no plans for international pier not this year anyway.

[BHD2BFS]

i just think the terminal has seen better days, from airside it looks like lego blocks all attached on over the year, the different shades of grey and washed out blue cladding makes the place look horrible

when compared to the city, it is a far more attractive and modern airport and its only a regional airport

i think it would be great if they added more airbridges to the far side of the international pier where aer lingus european flights leave from, i remember a couple of years ago when going to florida there was a thomas cook A330 flyglobespan 767 and i believe a transair a310 all down that one side, with CO at the main gate

[tigger2k8]

i just think the terminal has seen better days, from airside it looks like lego blocks all attached on over the year, the different shades of grey and washed out blue cladding makes the place look horrible

when compared to the city, it is a far more attractive and modern airport and its only a regional airport

i think it would be great if they added more airbridges to the far side of the international pier where aer lingus european flights leave from, i remember a couple of years ago when going to florida there was a thomas cook A330 flyglobespan 767 and i believe a transair a310 all down that one side, with CO at the main gate

The outside is nothing glamorous, but with the new windows at starbucks it helps a little.. we'll never see anything to improve the airports outside appearance until the new core is built (see masterplan) but with the recession and decline id say a lot of plans are put back.

Obviously BHD is more attractive on the outside as its a newer building, so i'd be worried if BFS looked better.. before the renovations to the airside facilities i would have said BHD wins on the inside and outside appearance, but now im going to have to say BFS now seems better looking to me inside (my opinion, next time you are flying out you'll see the difference).

As for airbridges, they cost around £300,000+ and with an additional charge for airlines that use them, i dont think theres enough demand to warrant anymore of them.

[EI-BUD]

So will EZY be announcing Southend airport as the 3rd destination for London from BFS???
Could that be the new route that is being rumoured?


EI-BUD

[tigger2k8]

Just spotted this in an article.. BFS-SEN?

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-business/article-23961112-new-international-airport-for-london-as-easyjet-commit-to-southend.do

The budget carrier plans to launch flights from Amsterdam's global hub airport, plus Barcelona, Madrid, Milan, Berlin, and Glasgow, Edinburgh
and Belfast into Southend ahead of the Games next summer. EasyJet is initially hiring more than 150 staff to cover 70 weekly flights to its first ten destinations - which will include Barcelona, Faro and Ibiza - in April. It will then increase capacity for the Olympics.

[mutleyshriek]

Knew last last week but couldent say.Actually 4th London Airport.

[BFS101]

Will this grow London bound traffic / increase visitors to Northern Ireland, or just cannabalise the other London routes?? Will we see a reduction on STN rotations as a result?? Bit of a strange one in my opinion, not really sure it's of any great benefit.

[JSCL]

I think it's designed to knock on to other London routes. If it wasn't, it'd be at overcapacity now. But them entering on to Irish routes could be scaremongering Aer Arann too.

[mutleyshriek]

No reduction to STN LTN or LGW is envisaged at present.Just consolidation as the no1 carrier from Northern Ireland to London.Imagine your choice of departures to and from London and Flexable Fares coming on line also.Im not being biased but this will sent a shudder to Bmi Flybe and the Baby....probably EI too.

[BFS101]

Mutleyshriek, do you know the proposed frequencies. Morning and evening departures daily??

[mutleyshriek]

BFS101,Flights arnt loaded yet,however they will be loaded onto CRS within the next few weeks.Business Travel agents have been advised they can now book throught corperate GDS systems for a small commision.I would imagine initally twice daily for the beginning for BFS Edi And Gla...

[cuthere]

So Mutley, is this the announcement you were referring to earlier, or does the following:

Cant say Jamie,might be the green bird stretching their wings ala the 70s advert.

...mean there's more to come?

[mutleyshriek]

Cuthere ,I was embargoed from from saying anything about the announcement so had to put a rat amongst the pidgeons.However,I do believe an imminent announcement is going to be made by EI Regional....

[NorthernCounties]

Bet BHX will be one of those routes announced, and perhaps they'll do the mid-day flight to Heathrow and back!

[cuthere]

Thanks Mutley. EI regional would be good for BFS. Cater to more of a niche business market, with frequencies akin to those of BE.

I do however find it interesting that there's a lack of outcry at the prospect of further dilution of the Belfast-LON market. As I recall, when Baby announced the BHD-STN routes, quite a few people got their knickers in a twist over it.

[mutleyshriek]

Cuthere,thats true however what you have to remember is the fact that anyone can now fly and mix and match flights and frequencies like never before from Belfast.If a meeting gets disrupted or finishes early then the business passenger now has a real alternative in four airports from the London region back to BFS.5 if you include EI.This is what Belfast needs multiple choice from one location,not two airports 12 miles apart as the crow flies.As an ex ailine sales person it was easily done at Man Edi Gla Ncl etc not at Bfs/Bhd as competing airlines operated from different locations.For the first time Northern Ireland business community now have a real choice albeit with easyJet but hey its a great oppertunity.

[BFS101]

I do however find it interesting that there's a lack of outcry at the prospect of further dilution of the Belfast-LON market. As I recall, when Baby announced the BHD-STN routes, quite a few people got their knickers in a twist over it.
As I mentioned a few posts back, I personally see no great benefit. London is well covered in my opinion already, both for geographical locations of the airports served (LTN, STN, LGW, LHR) and their access to the surrounding areas; and the needs of passengers, whether that be cheap flights to visit friends, leisure break to central London, or to connect at LHR / LGW for onwards flights. That includes flights from both BFS and BHD.

I can't really think of any great benefit for the Northern Ireland passenger, unless their final destination is a stones throw from Southend airport. Guess time will tell... Yet again...

[mutleyshriek]

Southend will be sucessful in that plane to train 15 minutes .Get the timings right and business pax will flock.Finish meeting early and fly back to BFS from Lgw Ltn Stn Sen.Pick up your car and go home.No other airline has never or will in future have this fantastic opertunity for the business passenger.cant wait for flights to go on sale as booking my family onto to Sen Bfs route.More to come BTW.

[BHD2BFS]

a bit disapointed there was only the one route anouncement today, was hoping of hearing new routes such a madrid and the return of berlin,surely if southend can have these routes there must also be a demand in NI

was talking to a friend from the airport and they heard that a certain regional carrier is possibly announcing london city

[ara01jbb]

If a meeting gets disrupted or finishes early then the business passenger now has a real alternative in four airports from the London region back to BFS.

Not they've launched the more expensive Flexi fare (i.e. like BE's long established Economy Plus), will Easyjet continue to allow common or garden fixed fare passengers catch earlier flights or flights from other London airports for free? This has been a nice perk of Easyjet for a while, but I feared it would get withdrawn and repackaged as a perk of Flexi fares.

[LBIA]

Jet2 have just announced a new route from its Belfast Int'l base for next summer 2012. It will operate a once weekly service to Faro-Portugal every Saturday with the route commencing from May...

LS305 = Belfast 07:10 - Faro 10:20
LS306 = Faro 10:55 - Belfast 14:15

[BHD2BFS]

good to see a new route
but why have they launched a route that several other airlines fly to, bmibaby did the same thing a few months ago, all the routes they launched are already served from the int'l, seems very pointless to me, could they not have chosen cyprus or greece??

[mutleyshriek]

Flexi fare will be available from all destinations form BFS and for £99 quid gives more flexibilily than Flybe economy plus jut to Lgw....

[AIRPORT66]

For god sake not another flight to a place well served at present.there are loads of places they could of went to what is that commercial dept doing up there.

[eastern wiseguy]

Airport66

Breath.Check spelling,punctuation, and grammar.

For what it's worth. I agree completely with you.

[NorthernCounties]

Breath.Check spelling,punctuation, and grammar.

:rolleyes: Can we please remember this is a forum - thus there is no need to comment on ones spelling or grammar. This commenting is however one of my pet peeves!

[eastern wiseguy]

Can we please remember this is a forum -


You forgot the question mark.

Good grief lighten up. I was fully in agreement with the poster and was (hopefully)sharing a moment of levity. If you are pained by it don't read it!

Now,back to the serious matter at hand!

[cuthere]

Now,back to the serious matter at hand!

You missed a space after the comma.......! ;)

[mutleyshriek]

WTF,guys a few keys broken on laptop.Certantly dont mean to mis spell or not to use proper puntuation.It comes with breeding Chocolate Labradors and the pup tries to type hahahaha....

[Aaron9890]

I was just wandering what aircraft TCX use for the SFB flights this year. I also see that they are flying there on both the 16th and the 17th of July. Whats up with that??

[BHD2BFS]

was reading monarchs new plans for the airline from next year
i think there is a real gap in the market for them to start from BFS next year as our current low cost carriers just seem to be competing with each other on the same european routes, and as MON flying alot to greece and cyprus they should be able to fit in nicely

B2B

[Jack1985]

taken from united.com


A message from Charles Duncan, United transatlantic, Middle East and India vice-president on Ireland and why United needs to get in touch with the Irish people.

“United has zero brand recognition here (Ireland), so we’ll have to work hard to get our message across.”

One change that will be introduced is an economy-plus cabin, offering more legroom for those willing to spend a few extra bucks. This has previously been offered on United flights, but not with Continental.
Continental recently added four flights a week to its summer schedule from Shannon.
“Shannon works for us,” Duncan said. “There’s certainly a market there.”
Duncan said Continental carried 124,996 passengers in the first five months of this year on its Dublin and Shannon routes.
The load factors on its 175-seat Boeing 757 aircraft average out at more than 80 per cent.
And he indicated that Shannon is a profitable route. “We wouldn’t be increasing our services from there if it wasn’t.”
But demand from Belfast has softened, not helped by the British government levying £60 in departure taxes on US flights.
Many Northerners are now flying from Dublin, especially as Minister for Transport Leo Varadkar is preparing to scrap the travel tax. “It’s a very real difference,” Duncan said.
“We applaud the Irish Government’s decision on the departure tax. To me, it signals that the Government gets it.”

[sealink]

Jet2 have announced new route to FARO. Got an email today......

[tigger2k8]

On the previous page sealink, only once a week but they still could have been a bit more imaginative.. but i guess if theres the demand then why not.

LS305 = Belfast 07:10 - Faro 10:20
LS306 = Faro 10:55 - Belfast 14:15


BHD2BFS, the fact that Southend has been announced from the Southend side of things but nothing said from Belfast, it would suggest that they are holding off to announce a number of routes :oh:. The EI Regional rumor has been floating around since the start of the year. As for MON, think i read that if demand was good for the 6 flights over summer they would look at expanding them, more than likely next year.

[BFS101]

As for MON, think i read that if demand was good for the 6 flights over summer they would look at expanding them, more than likely next year.
Is this in relation to the Atlantic Holidays charters to Maderia??

[EGAC is Better]

But demand from Belfast has softened, not helped by the British government levying £60 in departure taxes on US flights.
Many Northerners are now flying from Dublin, especially as Minister for Transport Leo Varadkar is preparing to scrap the travel tax. “It’s a very real difference,” Duncan said.
“We applaud the Irish Government’s decision on the departure tax. To me, it signals that the Government gets it.”

Sounds to me like a very real threat to the BFS EWR service. It is cheaper to fly from Dublin and pax can clear US immigration before they board.

Time for our politicians to earn some money and make us a more attractive place to do business.

[tigger2k8]

Is this in relation to the Atlantic Holidays charters to Maderia?? yes sorry, had forgot they were charters.. found the article


New flights to Madeira for summer 2011 - Belfast International Airport (http://www.belfastairport.com/en/news/4/24/new-flights-to-madeira-for-summer-2011.html)

We are delighted that Atlantic Holidays have added Belfast to their list of departure airports and look forward to working closely with Atlantic Holidays and Monarch Airlines to expand the service.

[BFS101]

More information on BFS-EWR. Charles Duncan, Vice President Transatlantic, Middle East and India at United Airlines, who was speaking at 'The Big Travel Trade Event,' organised by Northern Ireland Travel News...

The United Airlines' chief said he was "very concerned" by the tax and the fact that a family of four flying from Belfast currently had to pay £240 in tax to fly to the US.
But referring to recent speculative stories in the local Press regarding the future of the Belfast-New York service, he said: "We have no intention of withdrawing from the Belfast route. We have invested considerably in the service and we are proud to be here.
"We are seeing some traffic move to Dublin because of the taxation levels in Belfast and we are having a tough time right now because of this. We are anti-tax and are working with our partners to make the case against this tax."
He said that the airline was "very concerned" at any fall-off in demand caused by travellers bypassing the country (Northern Ireland) so as to avoide paying the tax. "The problem we have in Belfast is one which we do not have in other UK cities, the likes of Birmingham or Manchester."


However, he ended with a warning: "We are very committed to Belfast but we won't fly a route forever if we are losing money."

[EI-BUD]

I think I saw a Globemaster of the RAF fly into Aldergrove at 0910!! What a nice machine.
Anyone know when it is due to leave to go back out or where it is to/from?

EI-BUD

[ara01jbb]

There is obviously some serious demand for passengers traveling from Belfast to DUB; Translink and Bus Eireann have complemented their hourly Belfast - DUB - Dublin route 200 with a new non-stop Belfast - DUB 'X2' service (http://www.translink.co.uk/Timetables/Goldline-Timetables/Goldline-Service-200-Outbound/). Departs Belfast at 0745, 0945, 1145, 1345, 1645 and 1845; takes 1h 45m direct to DUB.

[EI-BUD]

ara01jbb- would this be anything to do with the fact that from the start of the winter season last year AirCoach withdrew their quite frequent Belfast-Dublin route and it is only now that the demand is visible at the start of the summer holidays proper?

On a separate note Aer Lingus have cancelled a few flights from Dublin, however, no hotels available anywhere near Dublin to accomodate the stranded passengers, not sure what flights but 300 effected passengers. I see that Chicago (1250)cancelled and Heathrow (1700). Aer Lingus have made enquiries for Hotels near BFS so maybe , just maybe I am not sure, Chicago (if its the effected flight) could operate from BFS tomorrow???


EI-BUD

[ara01jbb]

EI-BUD, re: Translink: it's possible, but a friend who is close to First Group's operations in Ireland explained to me last year that the Dublin / Belfast Aircoach suffered from low passenger numbers for most of its life, and almost never managed to cover its own costs. When times were good, its losses could be covered by the other more profitable Aircoach routes down south, but when the recession began to bite hard it was cheaper to close it down. Aside from the Aircoach "call centre" in Europa, First Group's only operation in NI is the BFS long term parking shuttle.

[Jamie2k9]

On a separate note Aer Lingus have canceled a few flights from Dublin, however, no hotels available anywhere near Dublin to accommodate the stranded passengers, not sure what flights but 300 effected passengers. I see that Chicago (1250)canceled and Heathrow (1700). Aer Lingus have made inquiries for Hotels near BFS so maybe , just maybe I am not sure, Chicago (if its the effected flight) could operate from BFS tomorrow???


From what I herd the LHR passengers are being transfered onto other LHR flights this evening.

The 300 passengers are from the canceled Chicago flight due to a tec fault. Aircraft is grounded in Chicago until Sunday evening but it's not confirmed if the aircraft will depart then. So no Chicago departures until Monday at the earlist. Passengers being accomadted on other EI flight to US and onword with Untied. Some will wait until Monday to go also.

This is part of Bus Eireann ecpanding airport services. Only last week they announced a 9 times daily service from airprot to other regional cities in Ireland.

[Aaron9890]

Cityjet expected in tommorow from loudres??
I take it is a Cargo flight??

[Jamie2k9]

No bringing passenger out and then brining others back to SNN.

[BHD2BFS]

nice to see pax numbers on the rise again last month, although the citys was down showing that baby isnt making much of an impact

[Jamie2k9]

Ash Cloud for a few days in May may be a factor.

[Aaron9890]

I would say BFS total PAX for this year will increase dramatically.
Due to things like; Heavy Snow, Ashcloud and Airport Strikes the PAX for last year dropped heavily. I would say that the numbers will get back up to 5 mil

[BHD2BFS]

i cant see it being that big an increase, but next year with a full year of luton, manchester, southend and hopefully the start of aer lingus regional 2012 should be a very good year

[Aaron9890]

yeah sorry i thought last years was 4.5 million but its only 4 so i would guess around 4.6 mil

Yeah you are absolutly right, that is if the routes don't get cancelled like the Icelandic one. Its a shame that didn't start. i thought it was a great idea.

remember will still have december this year, i wonder if the weather will be as bed then. I heard it is to be worse than last years!

[tigger2k8]

I would say with the return of LTN and MAN starting, lesser volcanic ash problems.., we could see an increase of around 250,000* this year, unless anything extra happens this year.. but yes 2012 should be an extremely good year compared to the last 3..

I see BBC NI is reporting the CO story again..

BBC News - New York route is 'loss making' due to passenger tax (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-13853472)

Lets hope something is done quickly, once summer is over and if nothing is announced to change.. i honestly cant see CO hanging around much longer..

*forgot LTN only returned in May

[Aaron9890]

Does anyone know when all this is happening???

2006-2015
Extension of check-in hall DONE
Extension and reconfiguration of domestic baggage reclaim
Construction of a new South Pier including departure lounges
Extension of West Pier ( really want to know when these are done because it could mean more room and more flights perhaps ^)
Construction of multi-storey car park and high level link to terminal
Expansion of cargo/freight handling facilities located on western boundaries

Thanks

Aaron9890 :ok:

[ILS25]

All part of the master plan before the banking crisis and current recession. Certainly won't be done now or in the near future. Slap a new coat of paint on and make do is they only way forward at the minute I'm afraid. New stud walls and suspended ceilings can make any building look 'fresh', but the ageing and creaking infrastructure underneath is still the same. As long as the current spanish owners are at the wheel, nothing is going to change.

[Aaron9890]

As long as the current spanish owners are at the wheel, nothing is going to change.

I was thinking the same thing :L

I see there is a flight from Sanford Orlando due in this morning at 7. I thought the Orlando flights didn't start until 7th of July or something. Would be interested in seeing it fly in as it has to be a big aircraft, however don't think i would be down that early especially as its due for 6:35 :=

Thanks,

Aaron9890 :ok:

[tigger2k8]

If it wasnt for 25/07 needing a very expensive resuurfacing we might have seen the new pier quicker than expected.. after the catering renovations are finished id say thats going to be the last big improvement for awhile. Last i heard it wont be looked at (not starting to build..) again until atleast 2013, which probably means 2015 before its even considered to be built. I'd say we will see a similar covered passenger walkway that LTN has for stand 60/61 for stands 13,14 and 15.

That flight from orlando is a positioner.. i think, well usually the P after the TCX and flight number means that. More than likely dropping off empty ULDs as there are none in BFS for TCX as far was I know.

[Aaron9890]

Last year i went to REUS airport on my holidays around the same time as today, i checked the route which was departing today and noticed they used a B757. This is good news as last year it was only an A321. So this shows some increase in passengers. I know it doesn't reflect PAX as a whole but its a start and an improvement

[david1994]

Last year i went to REUS airport on my holidays around the same time as today, i checked the route which was departing today and noticed they used a B757. This is good news as last year it was only an A321. So this shows some increase in passengers. I know it doesn't reflect PAX as a whole but its a start and an improvement

BFS-REU-BFS was done by an A321-200 G-NIKO today, flightstats always says a 752 for some reason.

[Aaron9890]

are you sure???

i saw it fly by my house as well. at about 3:40
definatly looked like a B752

[david1994]

are you sure???

i saw it fly by my house as well. at about 3:40
definatly looked like a B752

Positive it was G-NIKO (A321-200) Arrived onto stand 21, 19 miuntes ahead of schedule.

[Aaron9890]

Positive it was G-NIKO (A321-200) Arrived onto stand 21, 19 miuntes ahead of schedule.

Thanks. You must be right the flight tracker system always has it as a B752. It has said that the B752 will be operating to Antalya tomorrow. This means it will be the A321 then :L

[david1994]

Thanks. You must be right the flight tracker system always has it as a B752. It has said that the B752 will be operating to Antalya tomorrow. This means it will be the A321 then :L

There is no Antalya flight tomorrow its Dalaman (A321), Bodrum (A321) and Mahon (B752)

[jabird]

OK, so CO complain about taxes again. They have a fair point, DUB is much cheaper.

But govt is under heavy pressure from the green lobby to tax aviation to death, and Cameron personally wants to be seen as green.

However much CO bitch, APD is a one-way issue - fly BFS/BHD to LON and you pay twice.

There are (and won't be) any trains from BFS* to England or Scotland - so any arguments saying people shouldn't fly just don't wash.

Yet the government can't be seen to be giving yet more subsidy to Northern Ireland.

Solve for x?

*(why didn't IATA have a generic Belfast code - ok, the Brazilians have nicked BEL?)

[mutleyshriek]

Bfs is the generic code for Belfast.Just as Lon and Par for any airport in either London or Paris.Same for New York,Nyc.Any ticket that gets printed for travel from both airports will read Bfs Ei Lon Ei Bfs or Bfs Bd Lon Bd Bfs.Thats the IATA designated code for the city of Belfast.

[eastern wiseguy]

Solve for x?

Government subsidies for NI are being cut in line with the rest of the country. There is a general agreement that there should be a somewhat more level playing field in terms of taxation across the island of Ireland as a whole. Remember that the UK government have handed the Republic a huge loan over and above what it(ROI) received from Europe. They promptly reduced their APD and that has disadvantaged three UK airports.

The NI government recognises that inward investment depends ,to a degree,upon good airlinks to the rest of the world and it is with that in mind that this issue was raised with George Osborne on his last visit here.

If there IS any movement centrally I suspect that it will be a case of robbing Peter to pay Paul.

That however is what the politico's are tasked with doing.

I shan't hold my breath.

[jabird]

Mutley,

My point was that in database terms, BFS needs disambiguation. In consumer terms, BFS is confusing. LON, PAR, MIL etc are generic - ie they apply to the city as a whole. They don't represent individual airports. BFS can mean Belfast (either) or Belfast (Int). That is satisfactory in an industry that relies on precision.

In most cases, the 'confusion' isn't that much of a problem - eg GLA would easily be understood as meaning Glasgow Airport, not Prestwick as Prestwick is smaller and much further away. But in the case of BFS and perhaps also GOT, the smaller airport is much closer to the city centre.

[j636]

Do people not think that BFS airport management are at fault as well and not just the tax.

LDY - increased traffic year to date.
BHO - Ryanair pull out had an effect
BFS - Decline contuines as all you have in UK and Hoilday flights.

The tax in ROI may be back by the year ends.

There are no Incentive Schemes on offer to airlines from BFS at all. DUB have Short-Haul, Long-Haul, Transfer Passengers and Grwoth Incentive-(2011-13)

If passengers at DUB are higher than 18.431 million this year then all airlines who grew there traffic will have all passenger service charges after 18.431 refunded to them be DAA in 2012. With passengers expected to be in the region of 19.9million a lot of airlines will benefit.

[jabird]

Eastern,

Flights in the Scottish Highlands aren't subject to APD, and obviously lots of PSOs to.

I have seen some of the debates re: N Ireland APD - and maybe there is a case to cut it. Cutting a tax would be more palatable than providing a subsidy even if the effect on govt coffers would be similar.

Or Osbourne could demand that the Irish govt brings their air tax back up (highly unlikely)

[j636]

Or Osbourne could demand that the Irish govt brings their air tax back up (highly unlikely)

Although that can't happon. Once the Irish Gov meet the EU requirments they are happy and it dosn't matter how they do once they do.

If they had to bring it back to €10. CO would still leave BFS and other airlines would still operate from DUB before BFS.

Although when ROI had €10 tax all flights within Ireland had a reduced rate of €2 if not €3, which should be applied across the UK and not just NI - UK flights.

[en2r]

Although when ROI had €10 tax all flights within Ireland had a reduced rate of €2 if not €3, which should be applied across the UK and not just NI - UK flights.
It was €2 for all flights of less than 300 kilometres. However the EU weren't happy with this (I think they threatened to bring Ireland to court over it) as they said it was discriminatory - they said that you should have one common charge for flying from any Irish airport to any EU airport (whether in Ireland or elsewhere). As a result, the Irish government introduced a standard €3 charge for all flights (which is now being abolished).

[jabird]

However the EU weren't happy with this (I think they threatened to bring Ireland to court over it) as they said it was discriminatory

So they are happy with APD being charged twice on a UK domestic flight, because that is the UK government discriminating against itself?

[Jamie2k9]

The EU wern't happy with ROI having two rate of tax €2 for 300km and €10 anything after 300. Then a standred rate of €3 was applied in March and when it was announced that it was to be scrapped the EU dropped the case.

[jabird]

But I am confused now, the UK has a variable rate of APD, based on the distance travelled (to the capital of the country concerned). I think plenty of hotel managers in the Caribbean have complained about it but afaik, the EU hasn't said anything.

[j636]

The EU don't allow the Goverment to charge two difference rates for flying to an airport in the EU but if outside the EU you can charge what you want as its not part of EU.

So if UK gov change the tax for NI they will have to change it for the rest of the UK to.

[BFS101]

So if UK gov change the tax for NI they will have to change it for the rest of the UK to.
Is there not special dispensation given to areas of Scotland and the Scottish Isles because of their preceived reliance on air travel. Surely the same could then be argued for Northern Ireland.

[BFS101]

Air Tax decision to be made before Christmas.

BBC News - Treasury minister: Air tax decision 'before Christmas' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-13965076)

Belfast air route to US 'faces axe' within a year - Northern Ireland, Local & National - Belfasttelegraph.co.uk (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/belfast-air-route-to-us-faces-axe-within-a-year-16017748.html)

[tigger2k8]

All food outlets are now open and looking extremely well.. rumor has it Boots is being shown the door and Super Drug is coming in...

[flying officer kite]

Super Drug will be appearing soon, wasnt sure if Boots was going, but makes sense i guess

[BFS101]

Seems a little strange as Boots have a comprehensive presence at UK airports. Wonder are they walking due to poor sales, or pushed out if BFS are luring in Superdrug. Wonder if they have another tenant lined up??

[ara01jbb]

Bah! Superdrug? No more reasonably priced meal deals... ;)

[tigger2k8]

Apparently being kicked out, Boots at BFS won store of the year recently and is probably the busiest of the outlets in the airport.. Super Drug offered a more lucrative deal but only if Boots was removed, supposed to be out by the end of July

[mutleyshriek]

Bfs is looking really good now.From check in,security and the new shops and eateries area its been done with taste and thought out.I dont even mind paying a quid for a smoke.Areas that now need attention is the corridor to the international departure lounge,the arrivals corridor(int) and the domestic baggage hall.Those red and white big lego bricks out on the ramp need to go too.

[BFS101]

Hope this wont end up Ryanair-style, whereby Superdrug will open, remove Boots and then end up pulling out themselves in a few years!! Business in business, but maintaining a certain status quo offers a bit more security.

On a seperate note, the wednesday afternoon Thomson Sharm El Sheikh flight has been replaced for summer 2012 with a Mahon flight (yet more capacity to Spain!!), and Thomas Cook have a one-off Orlando Sanford flight currently on-sale for 5 July 2012.

[Jamie2k9]

Are TCX doing anything with the SSH times in the winter as its not operateing.

[BFS101]

SSH was operated by a non-based aircraft. TCX base an A230 through the winter, whereas SSH was operated by a 757, I think last winter from GLA.

[Aaron9890]

Hope this wont end up Ryanair-style, whereby Superdrug will open, remove Boots and then end up pulling out themselves in a few years!! Business in business, but maintaining a certain status quo offers a bit more security.

On a seperate note, the wednesday afternoon Thomson Sharm El Sheikh flight has been replaced for summer 2012 with a Mahon flight (yet more capacity to Spain!!), and Thomas Cook have a one-off Orlando Sanford flight currently on-sale for 5 July 2012.

I see that Ryanair are trying to use BFS. Doubt they will get in though. However it would be good competition if they did. The only way i would want them in BFS is because of their cheap fares. Not fair on EZY though, they are truly committed to BFS.

Things are looking up for BFS. The Sanford Route was supposed to end after this year so it must be doing ok with the PAX so far. I really wonder how they use the 757 for Menorca. You would think Majorca would be far more popular. I suppose that the Palma route is used by EZY as well.

[BHD2BFS]

as none of the current carriers at belfast seem to want to start routes to the canary islands, cyprus or greece. would ryanair not be interested in starting these routes because they clearly would be popular as im sure people are getting tired with the same old choices of spain or portugal

[Jamie2k9]

as none of the current carriers at belfast seem to want to start routes to the canary islands, cyprus or greece.

Aer Lingus do canary islands from BFS and FR from LDY. Jet2 dropped TFS for a reason. Clearly there are enough flights to canary islands otherwise they would of kept it.

As EI don't operate from cyprus or greece except ATH which is very costly to fly to.

Also TCX will not resume flights to Enfidha as planned this winter or next summer.

[tigger2k8]

FR has almost been in BFS twice in recent years but it never happened (no doubt some stupid demand), with EZY planning to expand within the next few years.. I personally dont see FR entering BFS..

[NorthernCounties]

Do we really need more competition to Spain anyway? They should be demanding more business routes, especially of Aer Lingus!

[Torque2]

Who is 'they' and why should any airline be demanded to operate a route that is deemed likely to be unprofitable before it starts? Why especially EI?

Are you all doing a college course in fiction that demands the use of fanciful theories with no substance to verify?

[NorthernCounties]

'They' are airport management who should have the ability to negogiate with airlines. Why are they happy, time and time again to obtain sun routes to Malaga etc. BFS is still the main airport for Northern Ireland and we have two semi-economic routes to continental Europe. Amsterdam and Paris, we need more routes to the likes of Germany and elsewhere.

If FR were to come on the scene, I'd welcome them if they did provide such new routes, but if they just came to provide "competition" (on sun routes.) No thank you.

P.S Mind your tone. ;)

[BFS101]

I'd bet FR would cherrypick the routes most likely to make a profit, so that would equal the typical routes to Spain. Maybe a few new destinations, but to be fair many routes have been tried and unfortunately failed. EZY to Berlin managed to last a good few years, but sadly ended, EI to Munich and Milan was marketed heavily and failed. Jet2.com scheduled summer service to Bergamo only lasted one or two seasons. Even the charters have pulled routes that are served from basically every other UK airport. Corfu one of the most popular Greek islands, Naples for Sorrento, Paphos for Western Cyprus!!

So really it's not through lack of trying, more the lack of demand for anything that's not Spain or Portugal. The pure lack of imagination for seemingly the mass market from Northern Ireland is shocking. If it's not Ballyponsa the Northern Irish don't wanna go!!

[EI-BUD]

They should be demanding more business routes, especially of Aer Lingus!

Hi there NorthernCounties, sounds nice in theory but airports cant demand much unless you are say Heathrow where there are huge limiting factors in terms of slots etc, and in Belfast, since there is competition and fierce competition for operators to move over and back etc, the airport managements respectively have to worry about keeping what they have.

Aer Lingus dont have the correct size of aircraft to operate thin routes to Europe and at a push maybe flybe do but many of the desired routes are at best marginal. Milan was a disaster and the loads so often in single digits. We will need to wait until the recession has lifted and employment improves and then hopefully we will see some new markets in the mean time BFS managements focus and challenge is to keep the Newark route.

Oddly, say CO pull it and then the tax is abolished would this be the ticket to get AerLingus to base a A330-200 and do daily or 6 weekly JFK and a weekly Toronto? Low fares etc more seats? Anyone have any views?

EI-BUD

[NorthernCounties]

Oddly, say CO pull it and then the tax is abolished would this be the ticket to get AerLingus to base a A330-200 and do daily or 6 weekly JFK and a weekly Toronto? Low fares etc more seats? Anyone have any views?

That would actually be great for the airport, and it could possibly be used for summer routes (to spain...) during high season as well!

I remember asking about the liklihood of something similar to this before but Jamie2k9 stated the earliest Aer Lingus would start new long haul routes would be circa 2012/13.

[carlrsymington]

If Continental cannot make it pay with their hub at Newark offering a multitude of connections, I don't see what incentive EI would have to operate to JFK or BOS. I know they could offer interline but it would compete \ take some sales from their DUB services and incurr a cost of £60 APD for customers.
If more than 1 person travelling in a group £120 becomes a big incentive to go down the road.

[Jamie2k9]

I remember asking about the liklihood of something similar to this before but Jamie2k9 stated the earliest Aer Lingus would start new long haul routes would be circa 2012/13.

That was when EI were getting A330 in 2013 but since converted to A350 which are not due until 2015.

Regaruds to European routes EI don't have right aircraft but EZY do.

[david1994]

Hey guys, for anyone that doesnt knew BFS had an Austrain Airlines B767-300 Divert in this lunch time while enroute from Vienna to Toronto.

[jabird]

EI have a partnership with JetBlue, so they would serve JFK, but has anyone read the small print about missed connections between two (semi) locost airlines?

I hope for BFS's sake that CO stays, but I don't think it will happen - once an airline starts to talk down a route, it isn't good for passenger confidence - and it doesnt look like a political solution will be (or can be) reached in time.

CO has to be Northern Ireland's main (or only) hope for transatlantic service - the airport play up the 'don't fly east to fly west' thing, but I think that as carlrsymington says, it is more about the links available at the other side of the pond.

[EI-BUD]

If Continental cannot make it pay with their hub at Newark offering a multitude of connections, I don't see what incentive EI would have to operate to JFK or BOS


carlrsymington; yes of course this is true, but my point was that IF CO pull the route and then in response the local government can get clearance to abolish the tax, no guarntees that CO would return, my question was would Aer Lingus then look at it.

I would disagree strongly with the notion that the transatlantic machine could be used on routes to Spain, as already said plenty enough capacity to Spain at the moment and 330 would be way too big, despite what advantages the down time may bring to the 330.

Elsewhere, EI is extremely well connected to US destination's not only in terms of interline agreement but their website is well geared to offer as seemless a service to across america in terms of booking process as any any of the US carriers including CO (DL, AA US etc to Dublin and elsewhere). In fact I think EI is much nicer site to navigate than CO one.

EI-BUD

[Aaron9890]

Hey guys, for anyone that doesnt knew BFS had an Austrain Airlines B767-300 Divert in this lunch time while enroute from Vienna to Toronto

What was wrong??? technical problem?? what time was it in ??

Has it left yet??

[david1994]

Came in at 12:32 and departed again at 15:55, reason for divert was a passenger took a heart attack while onboard, the passenger is now in a local hospital after ambulance crews met the aircraft at stand 27A.

[carlrsymington]

EI-BUD.

You are correct regarding the situation if after the APD was abolished would EI look at it?

Removing my £120 for pax from the equation, I think EI may just decide that if the good folk of NI really want to go to the US, then they can travel to DUB or LHR and EI will take their share of it. I'm not criticising them as it is just business. I personally would be very disappointed not to have either CO or EI operating direct to US of A from BFS. Lets hope the APD issue gets resolved in a good way & CO continue to operate from BFS but I'm not full of hope.

[Aaron9890]

Airport ready for summer bonanza - Belfast International Airport (http://www.belfastairport.com/en/news/1/64/airport-ready-for-summer-bonanza.html)

[BHD2BFS]

is this an inrease from the number of passengers this time last year?

[ILS25]

Doubt it. Around the same PX numbers every summer break.

[tigger2k8]

Note that the article is 60,000 this weekend, not week as in the topic of the post with the link.. on average BFS will handle around 55-65,000 PAX a week depending on the time of year (obviously more when summer charters kick in).. lets hope the baggage systems can hold up with the stress, there has been issues within the last week

[BHD2BFS]

does anyone know when the southend route is officially announced? also is their any more news of aer lingus regional starting up from BFS?

[BFS101]

Yet more media attention in the APD issue...

MP's call for NI air passenger duty to be abolished

BBC News - MPs call for NI air passenger duty to be abolished (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-14070700)

[Facelookbovvered]

I do understand the NI position over APD, but it still leaves a catch 22 situation for the Government, firstly they state that this is a green issue and justify the tax take on that position. If you say OK there is water between Belfast and the mainland therefore NI is exempt because of no land based surface transport, how do you justify the charge to the other remote parts of the UK mainland, in addition you give NI an advantage over the rest of the UK, based on past performance it will be like Uni fee's so if you live in Scotland Ireland or Wales you'll pay no APD and England will take it on the chin and pay up

Some point to the Dublin issue, given the state of the ROI finances i can see why they want every drop of inward investment, but this comes at the same time as Europe and the UK is throwing money at the ROI to keep it a float. So a country that is bust drops it APD to zero whilst a country that is going bust charges its citizens a fortune with a further increase due in a couple of months.

I think the answer is to buy one of these carriers (aircraft carriers) taht the goverment will flog on the cheap and park it out side the 12 mile limit and fly from there and tell them to stuff the APD.

Seriously though if NI gets zero APD it could well be the start of the end of it for the UK. I was glad to see the back of Gordon Brown, but this lot cuddled up to Lib Dems and polar bears is a joke, the French and Dutch must think we have gone mad over LHR

[AOCMALL0W]

@Facelookbovvered....

Please let me remind you that ROI is paying back anything we have recieved with interest!! You lot make out as if we are getting free money. It by no means free. We also pay a commitment fee to the UK for the loan we have recieved from them. You would want to do your research mate, before you go around making loose statements like that!
The fact of the matter is N.I is a part of the UK, you can't pick and chose the bits that you like and the bits you don't, why shouldn't people in N.I not have to pay the same taxes on flights as every other British citizen? Most flights out of N.I are to the UK and bucket and spade routes anyway, besides the "prized" CO flight. If they want to fly out of BFS, they can pay the premium for it, otherwise DUB/NOC is just down the road.