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southside bobby 1st October 2017 18:42

Chidken Sangwich...No..I say again this all revolves around the private equity company.. they normally know they hold all the cards having acquired for nominal sums failing or failed companies & holding all the cards are very used to getting all their own way when push comes to shove...Unfortunately for them the Airline Industry is heavily regulated by THE CAA & cannot be bluffed..I read the circumstances surrounding the last affair as THE CAA putting all their tanks or (full house to continue the analogy) on the private equity`s lawn partly perhaps out of exasperation too & guess what? private equity blinked & stumped up & met their obligations at the v last minute.
So no the CAA did not ruin the reputation of the airline,the owners did & indeed have to comply with the same rules every other pax airline in the UK does..
When they paid up so the need to fly many many dozen repatriation flights was avoided so is that not a type of saving anyway.

renort 1st October 2017 18:43


. I flew to SFB several times over the years and all flights were full and this was NOT in kids holidays!
None of the flights you were on, nor any of the other long haul routes you mentioned were sold by Monarch though, they were all tour operator flights where the tour operator held the risk. So whether it was full or not is irrelevant to Monarch. That market doesn’t exist any more.

Buster the Bear 1st October 2017 18:47

CGE29 I fear is correct from the rumour mill.

nsherrin15 1st October 2017 18:53

EZY crew due to operate BHX-FNC tomorrow (15:20), unsure whether this is due to anything MON related.

01475 1st October 2017 18:53


Originally Posted by southside bobby (Post 9910166)
So no the CAA did not ruin the reputation of the airline,the owners did & indeed have to comply with the same rules every other pax airline in the UK does..
When they paid up so the need to fly many many dozen repatriation flights was avoided so is that not a type of saving anyway.

Agreed. The only criticism I'd consider levelling at them is being too soft. However I expect that, reputationally, they have to give them some slack.

Skipness One Echo 1st October 2017 18:58

Norwegian long haul has been a huge drain on the health of the wider group, it’s not a panacea.

01475 1st October 2017 19:08


Originally Posted by Station_Calling (Post 9910197)
You can't book on their website. All the fares are £132, and the "continue" button has been disabled...

Oh dear :-(

Edit: Which continue button? I got all the way to the payment screen?

That's likely to be as a result of merchant provider action, and they can shut the show down even if nobody else does :-(

It also suggests there is no intention (or ability) to keep the airline separately from the holiday business.

Lee J 1st October 2017 19:10

Continue button working fine for me right through to payment...

sinbad73 1st October 2017 19:12

Continue button is working for me

01475 1st October 2017 19:15

Me too: got all the way to the payment screen.

pabely 1st October 2017 19:16


Originally Posted by USERNAME_ (Post 9910149)
Not true, there are 2 Night Ibizas which will be downroute around that time.

03:35 BST the last IBZ should depart to LGW thus all either at home or on route.

Station_Calling 1st October 2017 19:17

My mistake...
 
Yes - my mistake or a browser problem - wouldn't let me do it all. But it does now, hence I've deleted the post.

My mistake. Sorry.

daz211 1st October 2017 19:17

From Twitter

First of eight Qatar Airways jets has pushed back from gate at Doha, will be on way shortly to position & then fly as #Monarch rescue flight

toledoashley 1st October 2017 19:20

I don't find AM a credible source, but he might be right on that one.

Airbourne-Adamski 1st October 2017 19:24

I hate to think this, and hope it is not the case.
But if it was a case MON would not fly tomorrow would the inbound aircraft tonight not all start being remote parked?

Mooncrest 1st October 2017 19:25

I pray Monarch Airlines gets through this latest and, hopefully last, period of uncertainty. As a long-time passholder at Leeds Bradford Airport I consider it a great privilege to have hosted Monarch as a based airline for a few years now. There is much history and goodwill connected with the Monarch Airlines brand. Please don't go !

Cazza_fly 1st October 2017 19:26


Originally Posted by toledoashley (Post 9910217)
I don't find AM a credible source, but he might be right on that one.

Me neither, very amateur and only posts from second hand sources. However on this one, unfortunately i believe he's correct. I also feel with this the case a decision has already been made...

01475 1st October 2017 19:27

Can anyone find the flight mentioned? Would it be QTR3457?

AirGuru 1st October 2017 19:28

Pretty much exactly as i said on here a year ago, wish all those excellent MON staff the very best of luck for the next few hours, and the future.

Another classic British brand on the chopping board for the second year in a row. Unfortunately i can’t see a solution this time.

Clue will be if inbound aircraft arriving shortly park at gates or remote parking. QR aircraft (A320’s) will also be en-route soon.

anthbower1234 1st October 2017 19:28

A7 - LAB On route...


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