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MUFC_fan 24th September 2007 21:58

Those are the current NCL slots minus the lunchtime service.

As I said, dreaming!:}

chrism20 24th September 2007 22:12

Yeah sorry should have been more clear. I meant the slots in general from BLK not BLK/LGW. However the loads on NCL/LGW haven't exactely been inspiring so who knows what the future holds there!

take-off 25th September 2007 19:26

737-200
 
Nice to see a different liveried plane in this evening , the 'ozjet' airlines, is blackpool becoming home to these 200's? ,not complaing , nice to see the ol'girls still going about, although some airbuses in would be nice , than a 73's all the time.

MUFC_fan 25th September 2007 19:35

This was a long story!

The OZjet was brought in to cover the BFS flight which was supposed to be operated by the other 732 which was delayed 2 hours and 50 mins due to it returning shortly after departure in the morning due to a light in the cockpit.

Good planning by LS! All 89 passengers got away on time!;)

Jet2Leeds 27th September 2007 01:26

Jet 2 and new(ish) routes
 
What about a route to Cork/ knock or galway from bkpl , maybe the ncl could stop off enroute

Anybody know the loads j2 were carrying from manchester on the lgw with the 146

New routes Question:if j2 were to offer same routes from b'pool as manchester and leeds would this dilute man/lba loads. but not on a daily basis but on 2-3 rotations per week ... would this work keeping acft base low but based acft busy and loaded and in the air.

just a thought ?????

055166k 27th September 2007 09:50

Blackpool routes
 
No operator will consider routes that might make a profit on the occassional full flight, but run at a loss overall. The problem is....where to fly? Which route to choose?
There is no real answer. The solution is a service to a hub-and-spoke airport with, perhaps, a small proportion of customers with that airport as final intended destination. The hub-and-spoke will provide a much larger and comprehensive list of destinations from which to choose, and would facilitate wider customer choice and convenience......it would also fill the aircraft because different people want to fly to different places on different days.
The Stansted service was a sad loss I'm sure.....but there are other hubs. From monitoring this thread it would seem that a Fokker 50/ATR/Dash 8D type size should work. Next question.....which hub? Ample route choice from London....City/Luton/Stansted/Gatwick. Amazing choice from airports that may not immediately spring to mind....take Dublin as one example....easier and quicker than a London hub.....you could even commute to any London airport from Dublin....the services are so frequent.......but you would need at least two shuttles a day, if not three, to whichever hub was chosen as being the most viable.
The size of the plane is the key.......try Flybe/Aer Arann/VLM for starters. You already have the passenger stats from the Ryanair services as the basis for a possible business plan.

MUFC_fan 27th September 2007 16:53

Exactly.

BLK needs somebody like BA or KLM who can offer connections to LGW or AMS which would provide perfect connections for destinations across the globe.

But! It looks like LS will be launching at least two new routes from the airport. Heard that 2 have been confirmed. People at the airport seem to expect a LON route to either LGW or STN and also another Spanish route (what else!). I suspect IBZ or LPA, would LOVE it to be MAD though!;)

MUFC_fan 3rd October 2007 19:57

Looks like the LGW route is getting closer and closer with the constant poor results produced by NCL on the LS LGW route.

Also can see LPA launched for next summer. Expect LGW starting 4th Feb 08 and LPA near that date.

LS to operate 733 on the TFS route from BLK this winter and the LPA charter flights to be operated by Air Malta - A319/20s.

Hope this helps!

P.S. The LGW is not definate but if made so then it should launch February when 2nd aircraft arrives at the airport. Don't take these as exact figures! If you need to fly to LON - book BA or BMI just incase things don't materialise!:confused: BUT if you can wait - it could be worth it!;);)

Ballymoss 3rd October 2007 20:49

Looks like the LGW route is getting closer and closer
 
Oh dear,
The man sounds deranged, still getting over Coventry no doubt...............:D
Seriously, I do hope your ramblings materialise into something but, can't see it just now:{
Rgds
The Moss:ok:

ncleflights 3rd October 2007 20:58

MUFC - Hate to burst your bubble but I am led to believe that although the pax figures aren't spectacular the yield from these pax is quite good.

With this in mind I can't see the route been dropped and if it is can't see the slots going Blackpools way. Also given the possibility of a general election soon and the Tories plans to impose ridiculous taxes on domestic flights it makes no sense for any airline to expand in the domestic market given the ridiculous claims by the green lobby that if we fly the world will end tomorrow.

MUFC_fan 3rd October 2007 21:28

Sorry about the rambling, I just don't want anybody to blame me if they don't book flights because they expect LS to launch and end up not doin!:}


possibility of a general election soon and the Tories plans to impose ridiculous taxes on domestic flights
YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL WIN THE ELECTION?!:eek::eek:

G-SPOTs Lost 3rd October 2007 22:56

Silverhawk

How many times have you seen a 73 waiting on Alpha for another to depart, Once maybe twice a month?

There is not enough traffic to justify the parallel right now, if you are such a smart ass lets hear you quantify in months or weeks when work will commence.

No clever comments just a number please - we can then quote you when you are quite literally years wrong

Wonkavater 4th October 2007 09:23

A parallel taxiway would benefit ALL users of the airfield, not just the 737s. The poor old GA boys & girls would have fewer delays in the air if they didn't have to wait for traffic to backtrack the full length of the runway. I would argue that a parallel taxiway or just somewhere else for the bigger jets to get on & off the runway is seriously overdue.

G-SPOTs Lost 4th October 2007 19:10

Slitherhawk

Ok good luck with your efforts on the bike, I'm sure your male CC members have noticed if nobody else.....but any way you are saying 12 months from now we'll be able to park on the 13 nbrs to allow a vacating 73 to pass behind.

That could well be the case, but you still havn't told me when we'll have a parallel taxiway at Blackpool :ugh:

The truth is its not even soon, 28 is in a crap state and would need to be reworked from a safety point of view before any additional ground works would be done, in addition where would the parallel originate from and where is the fuel farm going to go and where is the new tower going to go that would need to be built?

The fact is there has been a lot of hype about expansion plans, a PDF published on the internet does not neccesarily mean that work will be done, the council has spent the money set aside for the repurchase of the airport if it felt that it was required to do so. The expansion plans were instrumental in the initial deal going ahead but now wheres the motivation to do all the work with less movements than ever.

Can you really see work such as parallel taxiways being done soon over safety issues such as resurfacing 28 and another 3 radar controllers.

Don't mean to be glib calling you a smart ass but get real. Personally I hope you are right but I have been operating out of there for many years and I'll gladly buy you a beer if its done by 2010 if ever.......

I mean just what is the airport going to tell their biggest user "We need to spend a fortune, we havn't got the money - sorry!" or would they say what their biggest operator needs to hear...

chris4567 4th October 2007 19:51

can we stop arguing and get back on topic.im sure it will happen one day.

Dufo 4th October 2007 22:24

One Q for ATC guys in Blackpool (Mark are you reading this perhaps?).. why don't you more often direct traffic departing from 28 to holding position C(2) and use A/runway 13 instead? Saves a bunch of time in my opinion..at least for us!

take-off 5th October 2007 12:46

Mufc , Am I right in reading your post, that Jet2 are sending 73's to tenerife from blackpool? I hope it aint any of them quickchange ones, had the misfortune of gettin one of them to alicante a month or so ago, seemed alot noisier AND COLDER than an ordinary 73, plus are the old girls up to that distance? not knocking but if its a 73, ill be off to manc instead, shame ,do so miss the thomson/first choice charters of couple years back... more likely to see elvis at the tower, than gettin a reasonable charter service again.:{

Can certainly agree about runway in need of repair, as a pax its like being on the big one,bit bouncy half way down ,especally if its windy.... Still adds to the fun i guess:}:}:}:}

Prestonian 10th October 2007 15:08

S08 BLK - IBIZA now on sale with LS.


chris4567 10th October 2007 17:10

yay some good news

MUFC_fan 10th October 2007 18:13

Twice weekly and good flight times for a long weekend!

Hope there will be some more (TFS;)!!)


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