Originally Posted by TimmyW
(Post 11379908)
Leaves the CPO as the only option, as it seems the offer of the leasehold wont be progressing either.
I've said before, but there is no way a CPO will be succesfull, so it really is game over. Acquiring authorities should use compulsory purchase powers where it is expedient to do so. However, a compulsory purchase order should only be made where there is a compelling case in the public interest. YS |
Originally Posted by pug
(Post 11379419)
Apparently the land owners Peel lease from for the approach lights and nav aids have been notified via solicitors that the equipment will be removed. I expect this has all been sold already. This is part of Nick Fletcher update, along with the usual gaslighting and finger pointing.
leases would have to be agreed if they break these, but that’s not a massive issue if there is willing parties. |
Originally Posted by davidjpowell
(Post 11380048)
lights etc are not that expensive.
leases would have to be agreed if they break these, but that’s not a massive issue if there is willing parties. I think people are forgetting that everything has been switched off. To create an airport again will require a not insignificant amount of money and effort just to become a working airport again. Does DMBC have the cash for this? Think we already know the answer to that. |
Update from Nick Fletcher. Weekly meeting cancelled by DMBC due to nothing to report apparently. One nugget though, Peel have supposedly changed tack and may now not be terminating land leases, which I would take as a positive sign for the airport sale. Not confirmed though so who knows. Apparently a meeting happened between Peel and UAE based consortium on 3rd February, the same day DSAmole updated us on here.
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https://airspacechange.caa.co.uk/doc.../download/5365
Looks like LBA have applied to retain some of the DSA CTA and submitted the attached yesterday ahead of the proceedings to close the airspace with the delay to the procedure ending today. Looks to me to be the Western side of the airspace they want to keep, and they have asked that the base altitude is increased from 4000ft to 4500ft in CTA 8 to not impact GA traffic in the area. As far as I can see there is nothing from Peel as yet to halt the airspace closure, I know Ros Jones submitted a request to hold off for 12 months but expect this has been rebuffed as there is no mention of it on the CAA webpage as of yet. |
It’s a privately owned aircraft, landing on privately owned land. Why should that be public knowledge?
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maybe collecting the rent?
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Does anyone have any idea why G-PACO landed at DSA today |
So what are they planning on reclaiming?
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All of it!
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https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news...months-4053178
Contrary to popular belief elsewhere, this link confirms there are no current active discussions with any interested investor regarding selling DSA. The UAE based party appears to have pulled out in November after Peel accepted an offer in principle. |
Heard a rumour that Peel maybe looking at a legal case against a certain Facebook Group admin and the misinformation and claims about Peel being made there.
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probably just putting the frighteners on - it would take forever, cost a fortune and have very limited effect except to drag the Peel Directors through the slime of social media reaction. Avoid!
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
(Post 11398092)
probably just putting the frighteners on - it would take forever, cost a fortune and have very limited effect except to drag the Peel Directors through the slime of social media reaction. Avoid!
Thing is, I bet they would sell it if someone turned up with the right credentials and offered the right price. To this end there is no reason to doubt that no offers are forthcoming - regardless of what a group on Facebook might say. Whether this is due to the DMBC statements of intent to pursue a CPO or not remains to be seen, but with the DMBC budget having no mention whatsoever of anything relating to CPO then it looks doubtful that this is being pursued. Company is being wound up in May. |
Ros Jones keeps bleating that the CPO would be for the land only, and apparently reading another forum, Peel do have plans to clear the hangars and terminal building. There seems to be a conflict of opinion of whether they need planning permission to do this - however given that the mayor keeps stating it will be for the land only means she is aware that the buildings won't be there much longer.
Also, Ros Jones has made no mention to the lease offer that Peel have made for a long time now - which tells you what you need to know, |
Originally Posted by TimmyW
(Post 11398131)
Ros Jones keeps bleating that the CPO would be for the land only, and apparently reading another forum, Peel do have plans to clear the hangars and terminal building. There seems to be a conflict of opinion of whether they need planning permission to do this - however given that the mayor keeps stating it will be for the land only means she is aware that the buildings won't be there much longer.
Also, Ros Jones has made no mention to the lease offer that Peel have made for a long time now - which tells you what you need to know, I’ve never been the biggest fan of Peel or their MO. However we do have to concede that they do get things built when they say they will (DSA would be a prison now where it not for their commitment), and I fully believe that they currently don’t really know what to do with the site. My view being that a reasonably successful airport would have provided sufficient ROI with regards to land value in the vicinity of the airport, but they just cannot attract the airline/freight business they wanted to attract to make it viable. Perhaps some of the more financially fruitful uses for Gateway East would not sit well near an active airport? Who knows, but if nobody wants to buy it for the right price, Peel are not going to sell it. Let’s face it, no airlines were beating a path to their door when it was open, so any attempts at growth in that sector would require a huge financial outlay from any would-be airport operator just to get them interested. It’s another thing ensuring that the seats get sold to sustain those flight and that there are enough passengers using the airport to generate revenue to cover the high and ever-increasing operating costs. DMBC of course should know all this if they have applied their own due diligence, which I suspect they have and may explain why there are no provisions in their budget for a CPO, not even the estimated £1.1million legal costs that Ros Jones shared in one of her updates late last year. |
Originally Posted by pug
(Post 11398142)
They have tenants in the hangars so not sure why they would want to demolish those. The terminal could be repurposed. They also apparently have no current plans to remove the runway or hardstandings and have recently been renegotiating lease agreements with the landowners upon which the approach lights currently reside.
I’ve never been the biggest fan of Peel or their MO. However we do have to concede that they do get things built when they say they will (DSA would be a prison now where it not for their commitment), and I fully believe that they currently don’t really know what to do with the site. My view being that a reasonably successful airport would have provided sufficient ROI with regards to land value in the vicinity of the airport, but they just cannot attract the airline/freight business they wanted to attract to make it viable. Perhaps some of the more financially attractive uses for Gateway East would not sit well near an active airport? Who knows, but if nobody wants to buy it for the right price, Peel are not going to sell it. Let’s face it, no airlines were beating a path to their door when it was open, so any attempts at growth in that sector would require a huge financial outlay from any would-be airport operator just to get them interested. It’s another thing ensuring that the seats get sold to sustain those flight and that there are enough passengers using the airport to generate revenue to cover the high and ever-increasing operating costs. DMBC of course should know all this if they have applied their own due diligence, which I suspect they have and may explain why there are no provisions in their budget for a CPO, not even the estimated £1.1million legal costs that Ros Jones shared in one of her updates late last year. |
Originally Posted by TimmyW
(Post 11398131)
Ros Jones keeps bleating that the CPO would be for the land only, and apparently reading another forum, Peel do have plans to clear the hangars and terminal building. There seems to be a conflict of opinion of whether they need planning permission to do this - however given that the mayor keeps stating it will be for the land only means she is aware that the buildings won't be there much longer.
Also, Ros Jones has made no mention to the lease offer that Peel have made for a long time now - which tells you what you need to know, Either way someone will have to pay the government rates even when empty. Is there anything left in the hangars at DSA? |
Originally Posted by pug
(Post 11397064)
https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news...months-4053178
Contrary to popular belief elsewhere, this link confirms there are no current active discussions with any interested investor regarding selling DSA. The UAE based party appears to have pulled out in November after Peel accepted an offer in principle. /startsarcasm Mr chadwick of Facebook has stated he has held his own talks with the UAE party.. maybe there's hope a local garage monkey can save the day. /endsarcasm |
Originally Posted by dsamole
(Post 11398151)
I put a post on here almost a month ago saying they'd walked.
/startsarcasm Mr chadwick of Facebook has stated he has held his own talks with the UAE party.. maybe there's hope a local garage monkey can save the day. /endsarcasm |
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